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The iPhones biggest strength (its simplicity) is also the reason it will never compete with Android for most power users. To me the iPhone is a toy while my Note 4 is a mini computer. Every time i use an IOS device i honestly wonder how people can be content with such a dumbed down device. Sure, Android may Crash, it may lag and it may not be consistent but whats the point of a stable and smooth OS if all you can do is swipe homescreens.
 
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The iPhones biggest strength (its simplicity) is also the reason it will never compete with Android for most power users. To me the iPhone is a toy while my Note 4 is a mini computer. Every time i use an IOS device i honestly wonder how people can be content with such a dumbed down device. Sure, Android may Crash, it may lag and it may not be consistent but whats the point of a stable and smooth OS if all you can do is swipe homescreens.

The point is that some people want a reliable business tool, not a hobby fiddling with their smartphone. If you don't get the power of Apple's ecosystem and think it's dumbed down, then feel free to not use it. Implying that anyone that uses iOS is somehow not a power user is simply ridiculous... But if it makes you feel better...
 
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Two months have now passed since I switched to iPhone 6s. I have been very openminded and eager learner to get used to iOS enviroment.

But...

After many generations of iPhones, I am surprised that the iPhones operating system is so poorly coded. Integration of the apps into the iOS is so weak that at some occasions it seems that I am using a Korean 5 dollar replica iFone. It's easy to blaim the 3rd party apps developers for weak coding, but the simple fact that amount of errors in even native apps like Mail, Safari and Calendar resembles Swiss cheese, is shocking.

Its not only amount of errors in coding, but also missing basic features, which has been in other phones for years. And dont get me started on the useless keyboard...
I heard so many good things about iPhone, I was ready for a full commitment with a iPhone daily life after jumping away from Android.
But this new daily life is unpractical and rather buggy.
The main problem is that iPhones ecosystem is immature, its made for basic limited leisure time activities. For business its worthless, if you hear someone says the opposite, well they either don’t know better or has swallowed the pill “its a good looking and fashionable gadget”. But aesthetically speaking the last good looking iPhone was 5s, the newer models look like any other grey smart phone.

... again a but, I will give iPhones ecosystem new 1-2 tryout months and see if there is any light in the end of the tunnel.


This is the most idiotic thing I've read on MR in a while.
 
The iPhones biggest strength (its simplicity) is also the reason it will never compete with Android for most power users. To me the iPhone is a toy while my Note 4 is a mini computer. Every time i use an IOS device i honestly wonder how people can be content with such a dumbed down device. Sure, Android may Crash, it may lag and it may not be consistent but whats the point of a stable and smooth OS if all you can do is swipe homescreens.

I have to laugh when I read replies from some that state the Android OS and phones are better than the iPhone. Simply because each, and every tech mag reviews have reported that the iPhone is a better all around better smartphone. Not even reading any reviews from owners on this or any other forum. However, we still read from some Android users that their android phone is the best, and apple is just a toy. Go figure.
 
The iPhones biggest strength (its simplicity) is also the reason it will never compete with Android for most power users. To me the iPhone is a toy while my Note 4 is a mini computer. Every time i use an IOS device i honestly wonder how people can be content with such a dumbed down device. Sure, Android may Crash, it may lag and it may not be consistent but whats the point of a stable and smooth OS if all you can do is swipe homescreens.

Maybe you don't understand how to use iOS then. I'm as much of a power user as anyone I know and my work is much easier to accomplish on iOS than it ever was on android.

1)Battery life consistency. I know I will have accurate and reliable battery life on iOS. With android, I constantly had some stupid battery drain issue from one of the 3 calendar or messaging apps among all of the useless bloat ware that came on the phone. I ended up rooting most of them to delete all of the crap that was pre installed. iOS battery life is consistent.

2)Keyboard. I'm honestly shocked that people have issues with the iOS keyboard. There has never been an android or 3rd party keyboard that can touch the accuracy and smoothness of the iOS keyboard. I've used over 25 android phones over the years and have installed every 3rd party keyboard I could find and none of them were near as accurate as the keyboard on iOS. My only understandable complaint would be having to hit the 123 option to type numbers.

3)Quality of apps. Sure most apps are available on both platforms, but the vast majority of apps are better on iOS. Maybe this is a personal preference, but it's what I've observed.

4)Email. Again I don't understand how people feel that they aren't productive with the native iOS email app. I have 6 different accounts and all of them perform flawlessly. Attachments always work, and I never miss important emails like some of my coworkers do on Samsung and LG devices. I send and receive over 200 emails a day and have never ran into a problem or limitation with iOS mail.

I could name many other things that just work. With android, it was a constant monitoring of this and that, seeing why battery life sucks, asking which messaging app or browser I want, just an overall cluster of a headache. With iOS, I am productive and I can just use the device without thinking about it. Most of my business customers use an iPhone for the same reasons.

At the end of the day, it's all personal preference. What works for you may not work for me and vise versa. But to say iOS is a toy is laughable. I accomplish everything I ever did on an android and more.
 
I have to laugh when I read replies from some that state the Android OS and phones are better than the iPhone. Simply because each, and every tech mag reviews have reported that the iPhone is a better all around better smartphone. Not even reading any reviews from owners on this or any other forum. However, we still read from some Android users that their android phone is the best, and apple is just a toy. Go figure.
I seriously doubt that each and every tech magazine claims that.
 
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Replies like two above... I am surprised to see how hateful users are and how negative MacRumors community is.
You need to read your own comment I referenced. There is no hate involved in me saying that your comment was idiotic. You on the other hand basically called the millions of people that use an iPhone clueless sheep. Ironically you are the one that is clueless.

I have never criticized anyone for using Android. I don't care for it, but millions do and it's great to have good competition and choice. I usually reply more specifically to each thing in a quote, but your reply wasn't worth the effort since the entire thing was nonsense. You simply have a desire to insult people based on your inept understanding of iOS and Apples ecosystem.
 
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At the end of the day, it's all personal preference. What works for you may not work for me and vise versa. But to say iOS is a toy is laughable. I accomplish everything I ever did on an android and more.

The lack of a proper file system alone makes your statement laughable. How anyone can say they achieve more on IOS then Android is beyond me. Anyway its hard to argue with people that will defend anything Apples releases. Im a tech guy, i use the best devices that are available, im not bias towards Apple or Android or Windows ect. I own products from all 3 vendors. Apple make some amazing products but the iPhone is not one of them imo. Sure its a brilliant piece of hardware, but the software side lets it down.
 
The lack of a proper file system alone makes your statement laughable. How anyone can say they achieve more on IOS then Android is beyond me. Anyway its hard to argue with people that will defend anything Apples releases. Im a tech guy, i use the best devices that are available, im not bias towards Apple or Android or Windows ect. I own products from all 3 vendors. Apple make some amazing products but the iPhone is not one of them imo. Sure its a brilliant piece of hardware, but the software side lets it down.

I've never understood the obsession with access to a file system. It's always the argument against iOS. Anyone who does not want to tinker could care less about that. You've stated that you are a tech guy which means you know far more than most users when it comes to operating systems, file management, etc. Therefore in your opinion, less ability to modify or tinker means it's not as good. In my previous post, I stated reasons why I am more productive on iOS than Android. Having a better user experience is much more important to me than having the ability to move files around or put a widget on my home screen. iOS is in no way perfect, nor is everything Apple does. That being said, when all of the positive and negative aspects of android and iOS are measured, Apple has done a much better job of creating a great user experience that requires next to no thought or stress when operating. It just works and it's a consistent experience.
 
I've never understood the obsession with access to a file system. It's always the argument against iOS. Anyone who does not want to tinker could care less about that. You've stated that you are a tech guy which means you know far more than most users when it comes to operating systems, file management, etc. Therefore in your opinion, less ability to modify or tinker means it's not as good. In my previous post, I stated reasons why I am more productive on iOS than Android. Having a better user experience is much more important to me than having the ability to move files around or put a widget on my home screen. iOS is in no way perfect, nor is everything Apple does. That being said, when all of the positive and negative aspects of android and iOS are measured, Apple has done a much better job of creating a great user experience that requires next to no thought or stress when operating. It just works and it's a consistent experience.

I like your reply. Rational and not insulting. I have both iPhone and an Android phone. Like them both for varying reasons, but prefer my iPhone. I'm agreeing with a Cowboys fan - is it the end of the world? Well, see you tomorrow night. :D
 
Hello.

I have now switched from Android to iPhone 6s. During first two weeks of hectic usage of my new iPhone, both for work and leisure. I want to reveal my observations of some of the major weakness of newest iPhone:


1. copy and paste function is very flawed and unstable,

2. very weak email handling in stock Mail app for accounts of Exchange, Hotmail, Gmail,

3. Siri being much less efficient than Androids alternative Google Now,

4. iOS 9 being unstable during hectic work sessions,

5. YouTube app not being able to view video in 1080p or 4k quality,

6. not being able to open some websites in Safari,

7. 3rd party keyboard crushing often, like Swift Key app,

8. loosing important emails with attachments,

9. no physical return button, is often a challenge,


Reason why I jumped on the Apple wagon now is that I assumed that after ten generations of iPhones, everything was polished and ready for the switch from my 8 years with Samsung and HTC phones. But, its far from ready. The result of this ”faulty” work by Apple is that on world basis Apple has only 14% of cellphone market share comparing to Androids 83% market share, I believe that this will not change in the near future, due to the above mentioned reasons and of course the obvious, iPhones are still massively overpriced.


Please do challenge my observations, come with suggestions on how to optimize iPhone for higher daily efficiency and performance. Because I truly want to give Apple a chance to convince me that iPhone is the tool for digital life.


Thank you



Here's my android experience:

Buggy as hell and spys in everything I do.
 
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I've never understood the obsession with access to a file system. It's always the argument against iOS. Anyone who does not want to tinker could care less about that. You've stated that you are a tech guy which means you know far more than most users when it comes to operating systems, file management, etc. Therefore in your opinion, less ability to modify or tinker means it's not as good. In my previous post, I stated reasons why I am more productive on iOS than Android. Having a better user experience is much more important to me than having the ability to move files around or put a widget on my home screen. iOS is in no way perfect, nor is everything Apple does. That being said, when all of the positive and negative aspects of android and iOS are measured, Apple has done a much better job of creating a great user experience that requires next to no thought or stress when operating. It just works and it's a consistent experience.

I agree with all of that. I used to work in IT and was paid to to tinker/tune/tweak everything from the WAN to the desktops. I don't care to play with my phone, I just want it to work. I have never wanted to look at the file system or needed a file manager. If I ever want to make a hobby of my phone I might get interested in Android but iOS currently does everything I need.
 
That being said, when all of the positive and negative aspects of android and iOS are measured, Apple has done a much better job of creating a great user experience that requires next to no thought or stress when operating. It just works and it's a consistent experience.

This is the part i disagree with because imo Android is the better overall package, its not like Android is hard to use anymore, nor is it as laggy as it once was (my note 4 is still buttery smooth), my grandparents all own Androids with zero issues. The great thing is Android is expandable, it can be used just like IOS for someone that doesn't want to tinker but somebody with even basic tech knowledge can do so much more with it. The best part of Android is they are trying things, not everything works but slowly it is becoming more refined (try out a nexus phone with pure android) while keeping the great functionality they are known for. At the end of the day it is all down to opinions i guess and everybody is different.
 
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The great thing is Android is expandable, it can be used just like IOS for someone that doesn't want to tinker but somebody with even basic tech knowledge can do so much more with it.

I think I have better than basic tech knowledge and used to work on unix/linux boxes but I have no desire to do "more" with my phone. It always works the way it is. No "more" is needed.
 
I like your reply. Rational and not insulting. I have both iPhone and an Android phone. Like them both for varying reasons, but prefer my iPhone. I'm agreeing with a Cowboys fan - is it the end of the world? Well, see you tomorrow night. :D

The division is yours for the taking. We are going nowhere fast with Cassel, the Giants are folding, and despite beating New England today, Philly is not a threat to anybody.
 
I agree with all of that. I used to work in IT and was paid to to tinker/tune/tweak everything from the WAN to the desktops. I don't care to play with my phone, I just want it to work. I have never wanted to look at the file system or needed a file manager. If I ever want to make a hobby of my phone I might get interested in Android but iOS currently does everything I need.

I feel the exact same way. Android tinkering used to be a hobby of mine. Now I just need a device that does the important things with ease and for me, that's an iPhone.
 
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I feel the exact same way. Android tinkering used to be a hobby of mine. Now I just need a device that does the important things with ease and for me, that's an iPhone.

Tinkering with my Android has been a great way to learn about the environment, but I use my iPhone to do things. Just my situation.
 
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