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you missed the entire repair and upgrade comment
"Repair", "consumer choice" etc. Things like these give sleepless nights to the true believers.

The mere thought that their beloved mothership fruit co will not be able to charge for the entire motherboard (and some; often very close to the cost of that entire MacBook if "luckily" not more in case of the older ones) when all that needed repair, err.. okay forget it, needed replacement was a damn USB port, these followers starts going raving, well let's just settle for, upset.
 
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Gonna get arm fatique.

Also smudge the screen up.

Also you're reducing effective display size when you block the display with you arm/hand/fingers.

Some people get upset if their display has a single "stuck pixel" yet are totally fine with effectively blocking visibility of tens of thousands of pixels with their hand while using touchscreen?
 
Gonna get arm fatique.

Also smudge the screen up.

Also you're reducing effective display size when you block the display with you arm/hand/fingers.

Some people get upset if their display has a single "stuck pixel" yet are totally fine with effectively blocking visibility of tens of thousands of pixels with their hand while using touchscreen?
After using touchscreens for probably 10 years, I have zero arm fatigue, don't touch your phone or ipad display either. you don't want to smudge those bad boys up. and how do you figure my arm / hands / fingers are blocking my display in any distracting way for the way I am using them?

Please....Those are Apple talking points from 7 or 8 years ago....
 
I consider smudges and reduced visibility to be one of the main drawbacks of the phone's touch UI, which is one reason why I prefer laptops to my phone. (I've no tablet.).

Phone display is also too small to be very useful. Yet also large enough to be a problem in my pocket, which is why I think Apple should go back to the iPhone 5 style of phone.
 
It's already done. Go watch the video done by Quinn where he points out the differences in the OS from last year with the one from the year before. And not everyone likes touchscreen, but once you get used to them, they are great. scrubbing through video, using your stylus to outline things in graphics, etc, it's a WAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY easier than using a mouse or trackpad.

I have touchscreens on my desktop systems as well.
I love the touchscreens on my iPhone and iPad, in fact the iPad is as useful as it is because I can hold it and use it with touch.

I can’t hold a laptop in the same way, and wouldn’t want to. It would make my work harder, not easier. No, a touchscreen offers nothing to me except extra expense, and a degraded OS experience. I’m happy for you to have one, but I’ll lament what they’ve done to macOS for it.

What is there to get used to? Doing everything in a more clumsy way? I work well with the gestures on my trackpad, and the mouse when I need extra precision, so what do I have to reach up to smudge my screen for that I can’t already do more quickly with the input devices already in my hands?
 
My laptop folds into a large tablet, so it works exactly like your iPad, if I want. OR, if i am scrubbing video i just touch the screen and be way more accurate. Same goes for my workstation display, it folds down to the perfect angle in front of me at my desk. 27 inch iPads are fun to use.

THere is no way trying to draw with touchpad or mouse is easier and more accurate. BS.
 
My laptop folds into a large tablet, so it works exactly like your iPad, if I want. OR, if i am scrubbing video i just touch the screen and be way more accurate. Same goes for my workstation display, it folds down to the perfect angle in front of me at my desk. 27 inch iPads are fun to use.

THere is no way trying to draw with touchpad or mouse is easier and more accurate. BS.
Do you use AutoCAD? Drawing is mostly done with the keyboard, or snapping to existing nodes, which is easy with a mouse.
 
No I don't use autoCAD, I am using various photo, video and creative software. AutoCAD is a different animal. I have stylus for each of my devices too that I use for tracing and manipulating images and videos. Works amazing.
 
You also get the best of both worlds with wine

I'm running CachyOS on my desktop and it plays games just as fast as it did when windows was installed. That's some significant bloat when I'm seeing just as good (even better) results playing the game through a translation/compatibility layer (Wine)
While I'm thinking about it, how about TurboTax? I've used the MacOS version the last couple of years, but, it is still Intel (hopefully not next year?), and, anyway, TurboTax on Mac always lags compared to Windows. And, the license thing is really annoying now. I'm guessing the Windows licensing interface might not work under Wine. All the same, I wonder if people are able to install and update TurboTax under Linux/Wine?
 
And in fact I intend to switch to x86-64 PC hardware running Linux/BSD as my next computer
This does raise a general question. -Every- x86-64 device that I have owned or interacted with** has been hot and noisy. I'm just wondering if any company has moved into the laptop ARM*** arena with, no doubt, Windows ARM, but also, the possibility of running Linux on it? Because, you know, despite Apple's misguided attempt to force subscriptions into everything, Apple Silicon is, well, sweet. Anyway, Linux on an ARM laptop?

**Yes, I know, they are saying that Panther Lake is more efficient. But, I've been fooled before. I would rather go with a cooler ARM solution next time.

*** For example, I wonder what it would take to get a version of Linux running on this ARM laptop: ASUS Zenbook A16
 
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I remember when this happened. It isn't as simple as "Linux libraries unsafe" though. IIRC the person who inserted the backdoor in XZ worked for a long time to gain trust with the maintainer and did do actual work on the utility before breaking bad.

That incident was/is probably the tip of the iceberg. That hack was done in a clever way. Who knows how many more clever backdoors there are, out there?
 
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This does raise a general question. -Every- x86-64 device that I have owned or interacted with** has been hot and noisy. I'm just wondering if any company has moved into the laptop ARM arena with, no doubt, Windows ARM, but also, the possibility of running Linux on it? Because, you know, despite Apple's misguided attempt to force subscriptions into everything, Apple Silicon is, well, sweet. Anyway, Linux on an ARM laptop?

**Yes, I know, they are saying that Panther Lake is more efficient. But, I've been fooled before. I would rather go with a cooler ARM solution next time.
You must have bought msi. My dell laptop is quiet and cool at all times when pushed there is a fan but no louder than the Macbook pro from. The same era
 
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You must have bought msi.
LOL. You guessed it for my last PC. But, they've all been that way. Toshiba, Dell, ASUS, MSI. The ASUS was odd. It wasn't actually that loud, but, the fan had a peculiarly annoying noise spectrum. My older MBPs were louder at full blast, but, a somewhat less annoying whoosh. I still like "silent" better.

I bought the MSI specifically because almost all Windows laptops a few years ago had numpads, and MSI had a number of models that didn't. Thankfully, a lot of laptops these days don't have numpads and have more or less symmetric keyboards. The MSI also has a better trackpad than most PCs. But, it is very loud.
 
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I wonder if people are able to install and update TurboTax under Linux/Wine?
I've been playing with winboat which uses docker, and it looked promising, I was able to install turbo tax, but its not something that seems to work cleanly. I'm stuck at the initial launch screen.

I'll look for some windows settings in winboat or docker to see if I can get past the issue, but right now, its usable.

I also use turbo tax, but its on my Mac, so I'm not missing anything, but winboat in of itself looks promising to run those apps that I need to use on Linux
 
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While I'm thinking about it, how about TurboTax? I've used the MacOS version the last couple of years, but, it is still Intel (hopefully not next year?), and, anyway, TurboTax on Mac always lags compared to Windows. And, the license thing is really annoying now. I'm guessing the Windows licensing interface might not work under Wine. All the same, I wonder if people are able to install and update TurboTax under Linux/Wine?

FYI, one alternative is H&R Block's tax software. They have been natively supporting Mac for a number of years including universal binaries since at least 2023.

However, H&R's tax software is not a drop-in replacement as TurboTax's UI/UX is still probably better. Just another option in addition to of course the proliferating web options.
 
've been playing with winboat which uses docker, and it looked promising, I was able to install turbo tax, but its not something that seems to work cleanly. I'm stuck at the initial launch screen.
A problem that I wasted time on was the callout from inside TurboTax to the web-based logon to the TT web site in order to validate the license. Surprisingly, it doesn't always work depending on your security settings /s
Regardless-- WinBoat. Thanks!

FYI, one alternative is H&R Block's tax software. They have been natively supporting Mac for a number of years including universal binaries since at least 2023.
I should look at it. Back in the itemized deduction business days, I needed to carry over the return every year. Then 1099-this and 1099-that. In 2026 a fresh start should be much easier.
However, H&R's tax software is not a drop-in replacement as TurboTax's UI/UX is still probably better. Just another option in addition to of course the proliferating web options.
But, I will be keeping my personal data somewhere besides the proliferating web options. Call it superstitious.
 
Regardless-- WinBoat. Thanks!
I haven't gotten that far with it, so don't thank me. Just the initial screen, but then it shrinks to the title bar (which is tiny anyways) and that tiny title bar just slides across the screen, inaccessible - so that's what I mean I got it to install but not much further
 
I think winboat, wine, bottles etc are all the same thing in different labels. If software does not work in one, it's not going to work in the other.

That's why I am not going to move to linux for our systems. I love the idea of FOSS, but it has way to many limitations.
 
I think winboat, wine, bottles etc are all the same thing in different labels. If software does not work in one, it's not going to work in the other.
You're best bet is to use a VM, such as gnome boxes (I'm using this for testing other distros). I don't think docker is the right approach for some apps - I think turbo tax seems to be doing something odd. If I have time and energy, I may look into it, but since it runs on my mac, and we're beyond tax season, its not really something I wanting to look into.

personally, I was a largely unimpressed with winboat. I'm sure its a fantastic app, but its not something I see myself using.

I also did a little more digging and it seems winboat is an electron app, not a fan of that. I think I'll be looking to uninstall, as it serves no purpose for me.
 
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I should look at it. Back in the itemized deduction business days, I needed to carry over the return every year. Then 1099-this and 1099-that. In 2026 a fresh start should be much easier.

Note that H&R Block can import a pervious year's return from TurboTax (and vice-versa). Again, H&R Block's UI/UX isn't perfect but at least their software is Mac-native.

I left TurboTax when they released a version that had to upload your data to their cloud in order to print locally. Not sure what crazy was going under the hood but not for me.

But, I will be keeping my personal data somewhere besides the proliferating web options. Call it superstitious.

More than superstitious, wise.
 
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I think winboat, wine, bottles etc are all the same thing in different labels. If software does not work in one, it's not going to work in the other.

That's why I am not going to move to linux for our systems. I love the idea of FOSS, but it has way to many limitations.
No, Winboat is more like Parallels, it's a Windows VM that can seamlessly grab one app's windows out. Bottles is a wrapper around Wine, but they also have their own version with tweaks (Soda) so you can have apps that won't run with Wine but will with Soda in Bottles.
 
Just too much messing about. Just install windows and away you go. All software works. I am done trying to fork software and force it to work on linux, I am just going to stick to windows and be happy.
 
I've given up on winboat, its not as if I needed turbo tax, or any app to be honest. I'm pretty happy with Linux and what it has to offer. I have my Mac to run stuff that won't run on Linux, i.e., turbotax.

I have gnome boxes installed, and there's some videos floating around in providing steps to install win11, I may go down that rabbit hole one day if I'm bored.
 
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