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Thanks for the answers guys. Is a really tough decision mainly for the price. Here in Brazil is a insanely priced phone. Is not like US that is the same price every year, here the new model is always more expensive than the older one. The smaller 16gb 6s is more expensive than the 64gb 6 plus.
If they were priced like a note 5 would be easy, I buy it and if I don't like I just sell and buy a note 5, but with this amount of money the phone really needs to be the best and reliable. And if I buy it I and like it I will probably use for more than two years because of the money invested.

What I usually see is that some apps arrives first and works best on ios, then it arrives on android and there is a lot of updates to fix.
One example was snapchat, all my friends were using it and I downloaded to check it out. The app was a mess, didn't even let me create an account. Months later I downloaded again and was completely different and working.
Another example is games that arrive first on ios. I'm not a mobile gamer but I was jealous when ios got fallout shelter. Also another awesome game called "framed", a cousin showed me on ios, it wasn't available on android, months later it arrived, i bought in the first day, then game crashed in one part, lose all progress and emailed the developer, it was fixed after some days. This is what I don't like, on ios, the chance of this happening is minimal.
So is a really tough decision, thanks for the help and if anyone still wants to add more content here I will be more than happy.
 
Androids are indirectly labeled the commoners phone.
I disagree with this. In my area, almost everybody and their grandmother owns an iPhone. I don't know where you are form but iPhones are the commoner's phone where I live.

When I started using Nexus 6P, more people started asking me what kind of phone i had and how nice it is.
 
I disagree with this. In my area, almost everybody and their grandmother owns an iPhone. I don't know where you are form but iPhones are the commoner's phone where I live.

When I started using Nexus 6P, more people started asking me what kind of phone i had and how nice it is.
Same here. Every senior citizen and a huge majority of high school students here use iPhones.
I'm the commoner with my iPhone here!
 
Most of the things OP mentioned also happen in iOS except the overheating. There are little bugs in the OS and bugs in downloaded software. The blank screen and links not opening is very common in iphone. I have a iphone 5S personal phone and then got a Samsung Galaxy S4 from work. I then upgraded the 5S to a 6S. Even though the GS4 is the oldest of the 3, it has a significantly better screen and better home button. Hardware wise, flagship android phones always have better specs (screen, ram, processing power, battery) and even though I can't customize my GS4 since it's a work phone, I can disable some of the bloatware. That gives my android phone better battery life than my iphone.

All that being said, I would say the iphone is better because the software is much better and the services like podcasts, imessage, and photosteam come built in without the need to download so many 3rd party apps. It's true that with android you can download widgets, launchers, and other customizations. But most people except for techies probably disable most of those. With iphone, you don't get much customization, but if you drill into the settings screen, you have way more customizations. For example, you can disable locations services or contacts book for any app. You can't do that with android, at least not on most android phones. Also with iphone, you get an update every fall. Your phone could get 3 new OS upgrades, which is unheard of for android. Plus you get the best of apple and google apps on iOS. Even though iphone specs are not that high, the experience feels like the phone is fast, at least for the first 2 years. Often times the 3rd and 4th update will really slow an iphone down, but most people are happy enough with their iphones to upgrade every 2-3 years.
 
Oh, and thanks for speaking on behalf of millions of people. The market share of 83% possibly might disagree with you tho..

Tbh, that market share includes very cheap Android phones in a market that Apple refuses to compete in. If analysts are able to divide the Android share between flagship and non-flagship devices then that market share will shrink markedly. It will also make for a better comparison since Apple does not and will not compete in low end devices.
 
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I disagree with this. In my area, almost everybody and their grandmother owns an iPhone. I don't know where you are form but iPhones are the commoner's phone where I live.

When I started using Nexus 6P, more people started asking me what kind of phone i had and how nice it is.
I was speaking in the broadest of terms. Ironically where I live in a dense major metro city, what once was a population where iPhones where prominent, has shifted to a town of Flagship Androids from quite a variety of makers.

Having just received my LG V10 I must say it's very fast and reliable.
 
OP don't switch to iPhone. The whole ecosystem is extremely limited and very expensive compared to Android.
  • You want to store photos in the cloud? iCloud Photo Library is your only choice and you have to pay top dollar for it. In addition iCloud Photo Library is very slow and very buggy. Yes, you can use Google Photos on iOS but it will always feel like second class and will not be integrated into iOS since you can't make it your default photo app.
  • Want to mirror your iPhone to a large TV? You have to buy Apple TV to do that which will cost you $150, compared to $35 for chromecast on Android.
  • Want to sync your photos from your iCloud Photo Library to a PC? Too bad, you will have to own a mac to do that. Want to edit iCloud Photo on a PC? Again you will need a mac.
  • You can't drag and drop files into iPhone's file system. If you want to copy music to your phone you will have to use iTunes which is the worst and most confusing piece of software ever written.
  • Do you want to have first party experience with Gmail? Too bad you will not have push in default mail app. Yes you can download Gmail's own app but again it will not be integrated into iOS and will always feel like second class app.
  • In iOS you will have horrible experience with anything and everything that's not made by Apple and it's done intentionally to make you use Apple's apps.
 
iTunes confuses you?! Wow. I'll be 60 this month and it doesn't confuse me at all.

As for it being the worst piece of software ever written, hyperbole much?
Yes, it is extremely confusing. It takes 23 steps to copy music to iPhone, compared to 2 steps on Android which is drag and drop.

By the way did I mention that itunes will remove the music stored on iPhone if it was synced to a different PC previously? Good luck explaining that to an average user.
 
OP. Here's more points against switching to iPhone.
  • Apple will intentionally slow down your device with iOS 10 in order to make you upgrade to the newer iPhone.
  • Can't drag and drop ringtones!
  • Can't drag and drop your photos into iPhone. Yes you can use dropbox but they will always stay there in dropbox app. They will never appear in photos app
 
OP don't switch to iPhone. The whole ecosystem is extremely limited and very expensive compared to Android.
  • You want to store photos in the cloud? iCloud Photo Library is your only choice and you have to pay top dollar for it. In addition iCloud Photo Library is very slow and very buggy. Yes, you can use Google Photos on iOS but it will always feel like second class and will not be integrated into iOS since you can't make it your default photo app.
  • Want to mirror your iPhone to a large TV? You have to buy Apple TV to do that which will cost you $150, compared to $35 for chromecast on Android.
  • Want to sync your photos from your iCloud Photo Library to a PC? Too bad, you will have to own a mac to do that. Want to edit iCloud Photo on a PC? Again you will need a mac.
  • You can't drag and drop files into iPhone's file system. If you want to copy music to your phone you will have to use iTunes which is the worst and most confusing piece of software ever written.
  • Do you want to have first party experience with Gmail? Too bad you will not have push in default mail app. Yes you can download Gmail's own app but again it will not be integrated into iOS and will always feel like second class app.
  • In iOS you will have horrible experience with anything and everything that's not made by Apple and it's done intentionally to make you use Apple's apps.

1)I use a variety of cloud based photo storage options like google drive and drop box. Also my iCloud photos never give me any problems.

2)I use my Chromecast all the time with my iPhone and iPad. Works great. Also my Apple TV was 69 bucks, not $150.

3)iTunes can be a little cumbersome but it's really not bad. We are moving away from storing music on a device and onto streaming and cloud based services. Manually loading music will soon be the archaic way of doing it.
I stream all of my music through Apple Music (formerly Spotify) and save my favorites for offline listening. I haven't used iTunes since the iPhone 5.

3)I've always used gmail through the native mail app and never had a problem. I'll agree that the android Gmail app is hard to beat.

4)I've never had a horrible experience with anything on iOS. There are a few things like the gmail app that are better on android but they aren't bad on iOS. I use google maps, drive, YouTube and other google apps and they all work great for me.

Everything is subjective but people who use a lot of google services can most definitely use all of those services on iOS.

I remember when I first got the 4s, I was worried about how Google apps would work on an iPhone. Back then they were not good, but they've improved immensely.
 
iTunes confuses you?! Wow. I'll be 60 this month and it doesn't confuse me at all.

As for it being the worst piece of software ever written, hyperbole much?

I use iTunes daily. I feel he is exaggerating but their is some underlining truth to what he says. Even more so if you start using iTunes with a Windows drag and drop mindset. It's hard to forget everything you know about something to relearn a different method.

I find myself trying to do things in iTunes for 15 minutes before having to google it. Just the other day I was trying to figure out how to remove a device, had to click on the actual store, then my account in fine print on the right toward the center. Certainly not difficult but when looking for your account settings it's usually front and center...I digress..

Also I feel iTunes on a Mac > Windows box. That's my opinion though.
 
I went from iOS -> Android -> iOS. I had an iPhone 4 and 4S. I was using iOS 6.x until I jumped ship to Android. Since I jumped, I had a galaxy s4, nexus 5, nexus 6, and galaxy s6 edge. I had ran Android kit kat until lollipop (5.1.1). Back to iOS, I am now on 9.1 with an iPhone 5S. I absolutely love this thing.

Both are excellent, however, iOS has far better optimization, stand by times, and battery life. Since you do not care about rooting, customizing, and flashing different ROMS...I would absolutely go with iOS.

Also, it pairs EXCELLENTLY with my 2015 MacBook Pro. I love being able to text all my contacts on my Mac and pairing my iPhone with my mac! The continuity between each device is impeccable.

Go with iOS.
 
Tbh, that market share includes very cheap Android phones in a market that Apple refuses to compete in. If analysts are able to divide the Android share between flagship and non-flagship devices then that market share will shrink markedly. It will also make for a better comparison since Apple does not and will not compete in low end devices.
Don't they still sell the 5c and 5s, they are about as low as it gets these days... Heck some would even say the 6s with an embarrassing 720p screen is low rent..
 
Don't they still sell the 5c and 5s, they are about as low as it gets these days... Heck some would even say the 6s with an embarrassing 720p screen is low rent..

But at least those phones can all run about 99% of the same apps and can still get updates. Not a sermon, just a thought. :)
 
Thanks for the answers guys. Is a really tough decision mainly for the price. Here in Brazil is a insanely priced phone. Is not like US that is the same price every year, here the new model is always more expensive than the older one. The smaller 16gb 6s is more expensive than the 64gb 6 plus.
If they were priced like a note 5 would be easy, I buy it and if I don't like I just sell and buy a note 5, but with this amount of money the phone really needs to be the best and reliable. And if I buy it I and like it I will probably use for more than two years because of the money invested.

What I usually see is that some apps arrives first and works best on ios, then it arrives on android and there is a lot of updates to fix.
One example was snapchat, all my friends were using it and I downloaded to check it out. The app was a mess, didn't even let me create an account. Months later I downloaded again and was completely different and working.
Another example is games that arrive first on ios. I'm not a mobile gamer but I was jealous when ios got fallout shelter. Also another awesome game called "framed", a cousin showed me on ios, it wasn't available on android, months later it arrived, i bought in the first day, then game crashed in one part, lose all progress and emailed the developer, it was fixed after some days. This is what I don't like, on ios, the chance of this happening is minimal.
So is a really tough decision, thanks for the help and if anyone still wants to add more content here I will be more than happy.
Don't be fooled by hearsay, do a Google search for independent app crash reports.. you will be surprised.. all that glitters is sometimes not gold..
Most reviewers rate the 6s Behind the edge plus, search for loads of review sites if you don't believe me.. so if they were the same price it's a difficult decision, but to spend a lot more is crazy man.. don't be fooled by the myth of better resale values, in hard currency you lose more because you have paid so much more up front..
 
Don't be fooled by hearsay, do a Google search for independent app crash reports.. you will be surprised.. all that glitters is sometimes not gold..
Most reviewers rate the 6s Behind the edge plus, search for loads of review sites if you don't believe me.. so if they were the same price it's a difficult decision, but to spend a lot more is crazy man.. don't be fooled by the myth of better resale values, in hard currency you lose more because you have paid so much more up front..

Well, you certainly have an agenda here. Nothing else to do? No friends to play with?
 
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But at least those phones can all run about 99% of the same apps and can still get updates. Not a sermon, just a thought. :)
So you admit they are low rent and cheap, and Apple is supplying the bottom end of the Market as well.. finally we are getting somewhere. ..
And the apps thing.. 98.5% of all android phones are on 4.1 and above. . That is the minimum requirements in the play store for an app to run. . Nice try ...

Well, you certainly have an agenda here. Nothing else to do? No friends to play with?
Are you for real. . This is a debate about android version ios, not liking when the truth hurts..

Well, you certainly have an agenda here. Nothing else to do? No friends to play with?
Don't you mind not getting personal pls..
I like to think as this forum and it's users as my friends.
 
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