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Not sure if AT&T does this, but with Verizon, while you do sign a 2 year contract, you are able to upgrade within 6 months of your contract expiring. So really you are only locked in for 18 months. I don't see the need to continuously update your device unless you just have to have the best thing that's out. Which is fine, just would rather save that money to spend on something else.

LMAO! :D are you kidding?
 
Interesting concept and for those who like the path of least resistance it might work out for them IF T-Mob is decent in their area and they don't travel much.

But, assuming used iPhones hold value it seems it's still less expensive to pay full boat then sell when you are ready to upgrade. Under T-Mob's plan you pay the $199 subsidized rate + another $120 if you keep it, say, until the next iPhone. You have to give them the phone back so cost of use is $319. OTOH if you bought an unlocked phone at full price $649 you could easily sell it a year later for $400, so total cost of use is $249.

So bottom line, all these carriers prices are the same. It's just a big shell game as to where they make their $ and how they pull you in. I stick with ATT b/c I have a grandfathered data plan. Otherwise I'd probably go Verizon just because the GSM side is unlocked.

If, however, you are on an Android release schedule then you can easily upgrade to something new every 6 months instead of the traditional yearly launch of an Apple device. With Android depreciation, the numbers work in favor of this plan for Android users. Not so much for Apple guys.
 
$50 /mo basic service

$10 /mo addon for 2GB data

$10 /mo fee for early trade in.
$20 /mo payment plan for iPhone.

It starts adding up fast.

wrong, when u do the 10$/month early trade-in....you DO NOT have $20/mo phone payment plan.


it's either. initial phone price (200$ for iphone) + 10$ montly trade in fee....OR.... initial down payment (200$ for ihpone) + 20$ monthly phone payment plan.

the whole thing of this JUMP program is that people can still get phones at the subsidized price.

so like people said up top, when u go to trade it...you have to give up your phone if you're on the JUMP program.

vs

the other normal plan with the phone monthly payment plan, when you want to get a new phone....the payment on the original phone is still there OR you can pay the remainder of the price in one payment. but the phone is yours to keep. t-mobile doesn't want it back...they just want the money for the phone
 
T-Mobile will become very successful.

A year ago, I would be stuck on EDGE on my iphone. They rapidly rolled out their new towers. Now, almost everywhere I go I have 4G or LTE.
I don't even need LTE because T-mobiles 4G is always blazing fast on my iphone. EVERY TIME I use a friends phone on Verizon and says 3G or 4G, it is so slow that its pathetic.

Oh, and I don't pay near as much as the suckers stuck with AT&T and Verizon..
 
doesn't matter how many plans all these carriers are cranking out saying that they will help the consumers save money and stuff. it's all bs....consumers are always in a hole. bottom line cellphone services are always going to be expensive and get even more expensive as time goes on.

want to save money? don't get a cellphone. lol don't think this is an option for modern people. o well i guess,just gotta pay up :(
 
"This is one of those things that annoys customers so much"

Actually what annoys us is that we can't get any phone we want at any time with any plan on any carrier. In a free market we would be free, and free we are not.
 
what if I bring my own phone? Do I still get to upgrade twice a year with only paying $10 a month? Probably not...

no. the thing is you can't call it an "upgrade" in your situation. ur situation is getting a phone under tmobile's system for the first time. THEN you can apply the JUMP program on that phone.

now the NEXT phone that you want to get phone tmobile, THEN you can use the term "upgrade".

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"This is one of those things that annoys customers so much"

Actually what annoys us is that we can't get any phone we want at any time with any plan on any carrier. In a free market we would be free, and free we are not.

yea that is nice about the "FREE WORLD" you mentioned, but when that happens just be ready to pay upppp
 
What a gimmick. This and uncarrier.

TMobile needs to spend the marketing money they're wasting on this crap to improve their network.

EDIT: they're also claiming 116 markets with LTE, which is a huge lie. They're double-counting adjacent cities. Example is Boston-Cambridge. It is complete crap for them to be counting them separately. And the rollout isn't even remotely done yet.
 
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"This is one of those things that annoys customers so much"

Actually what annoys us is that we can't get any phone we want at any time with any plan on any carrier. In a free market we would be free, and free we are not.
You can.

You can get an unlocked Verizon or ATT phone from the Google Play Store or Apple. And use that device to get service from ATT or Verizon.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...ung-galaxy-s4-ship-from-u-s-play-store-today/
or here, at the bottom, unlocked and contract free.
http://store.apple.com/us/buy/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone5

You can do the same with TMobile.

Why do you think you can't?
 
Amazing that their parent company T-Mobile (or Telekom) Germany does not offer anything alike. They are still the only big company left with simlocks on their iPhones...
 
Boy there are a lot of confused people on this forum.

T-Mobile is the ONLY carrier that will reduce your monthly if you outright own your device.

In the other ownership model, the $X amount that is tacked onto your bill a month (device payment plan) is the exact same model that the other carriers use, it's just that T-Mobile is actually being forthright in the itemized transaction. This monthly dollar amount is just built into your higher ATT/VZW bill. They just don't want you to see it, because then you would ask - what would my monthly be if I owned my device once my 24 month contract is up or if I decided to pay full price upfront? It would result in less att/vzw revenue.

T-Mobile is offering people more choices. The increased flexibility comes with a trade-off, you have a higher monthly. I don't see how this complicates things, unless you are confused by basic math.
 
You can.

You can get an unlocked Verizon or ATT phone from the Google Play Store or Apple. And use that device to get service from ATT or Verizon.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...ung-galaxy-s4-ship-from-u-s-play-store-today/
or here, at the bottom, unlocked and contract free.
http://store.apple.com/us/buy/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone5

You can do the same with TMobile.

Why do you think you can't?

i think he wants to get any plan at anytime part also. only tmobile has that option.
but yea don't think people would like this free world that he mentioned. we don't wipe our asses with money.
 
So you buy a device on a payment plan, decide hafway thru paying for it you want a newer device, upgrade on another payment plan and still pay off the old payment plan PLUS $120 extra dollars a year?

SEEMS LEGIT.

The way I understand it is this (for example):
10/1/2013: Pay downpayment on iPhone 5S (is this $200? I don't know)
Oct 2013-Sept 2014: Pay $20/month payment on phone, plus $10/month jump fee
10/1/2014: Pay downpayment on iPhone 6, surrender half-paid-for iPhone 5S
Oct 2014-Sept 2015: Pay $20/month payment on phone, plus $10/month jump fee


Anyone else see it this way? In this sense, you are paying $560/year to have the latest and greatest device. T-Mobile then re-sells your one generation old device to someone who wants a lower downpayment/monthly payment/etc.

The other scenario is:
10/1/2013: Pay $649 for unlocked iPhone 5S
10/1/2014: Pay $649 for unlocked iPhone 6
10/?/2014: Sell iPhone 5S for ~$450.

In this scenario, you have a greater initial investment ($649 in year one instead of $560) but only about a $200 cost in the years going forward.

This seems like a good way for T-Mobile to make money off of customers who want the ease of just paying a set monthly price for their device and not deal with the hassle of buying and selling phones each year.

It's almost like leasing a car.
 
Contract?

Is this still contract free?

If you decide to leave, do you just hand back the phone?

If you stay with t-mobile, you have to pay the extra $10/mo forever or can you instead switch over to the bring your phone or monthly payment plan?
 
$50 /mo basic service

$10 /mo addon for 2GB data

$10 /mo fee for early trade in.
$20 /mo payment plan for iPhone.

It starts adding up fast.

The insurance/Jump fee isn't really for people trying to save money. It is for customers who like to get a new phone 2-3 times every 2 years.
 
If, however, you are on an Android release schedule then you can easily upgrade to something new every 6 months instead of the traditional yearly launch of an Apple device. With Android depreciation, the numbers work in favor of this plan for Android users. Not so much for Apple guys.

That's actually a really good point. This service definitely favors Android users.
 
"This is one of those things that annoys customers so much"

Actually what annoys us is that we can't get any phone we want at any time with any plan on any carrier. In a free market we would be free, and free we are not.

To be free costs money.
 
wrong, when u do the 10$/month early trade-in....you DO NOT have $20/mo phone payment plan.


it's either. initial phone price (200$ for iphone) + 10$ montly trade in fee....OR.... initial down payment (200$ for ihpone) + 20$ monthly phone payment plan.

the whole thing of this JUMP program is that people can still get phones at the subsidized price.

so like people said up top, when u go to trade it...you have to give up your phone if you're on the JUMP program.

vs

the other normal plan with the phone monthly payment plan, when you want to get a new phone....the payment on the original phone is still there OR you can pay the remainder of the price in one payment. but the phone is yours to keep. t-mobile doesn't want it back...they just want the money for the phone

This doesn't seem to make sense from a Tmo business standpoint... But if this is true, this would be an amazing deal.
 
what if I bring my own phone? Do I still get to upgrade twice a year with only paying $10 a month? Probably not...

You wouldn't pay $10 while you are using your own phone. Since you have no EIP, you just upgrade to a new phone at any time. While you are paying that EIP, then you would have to pay the $10 fee per month if you want to upgrade again in 6 months.
 
I think T-Mobile's CEO really has no idea what he's doing. He just knows his carrier is in last place and is desperate to get noticed.
 
If, however, you are on an Android release schedule then you can easily upgrade to something new every 6 months instead of the traditional yearly launch of an Apple device. With Android depreciation, the numbers work in favor of this plan for Android users. Not so much for Apple guys.

True. I was sticking w/ the iPhone example since this is an Apple site, but, yes, it could be useful for Android fans since the used Android market isn't strong since many are not OS upgradable, or OS upgrades are slow to release, and also new models release with greater frequency than the iPhone.
 
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