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Sounds to me like it is how I though... Installment payment + $10/month + downpayment.

From http://www.zdnet.com/t-mobile-announces-new-jump-twice-yearly-upgrade-program-7000017906/:

"I used to changes my smartphone every couple of months, but over the past couple of years they have gotten better and better so I now can be seen with a phone for 6 to 10 months. I rarely use the phone subsidy on carriers though and typically pay full price for my gear.

The new JUMP! option for T-Mobile is a $10/month program (just a few dollars more than you pay for their current carrier handset protection) that lets you bring in your current phone and trade it in for a new one financed with their zero interest Equipment Installation Program (EIP). Any remaining EIP payments from your previous phone will be eliminated by the trade-in. You get to purchase the new phone for the same low upfront cost that new subscribers are offered, all still with no annual service contract.

I haven't ran all the numbers to see how the bottom line shakes out, but at first glance it seems like a good program to keep existing customers coming back to T-Mobile."


oh my god.....that's another way of saying "Renting" an iphone. who ever buys into this is an idiot when the program goes live.
 
I can't believe att also moved the upgrade to 24 months, it seems like plans are only getting worse and worse rather than better, it is a complete joke.
 
If you really hate T-Mobile, switch to a different carrier. Stop caring about them. Us T-Mobile customers will keep enjoying the savings and the fast LTE.

:rolleyes: Looks like I hurt someone's feelings.

anyways...

savings aren't worthy when you have mediocre service. IMO, of course ;)
 
wrong, when u do the 10$/month early trade-in....you DO NOT have $20/mo phone payment plan.


it's either. initial phone price (200$ for iphone) + 10$ montly trade in fee....OR.... initial down payment (200$ for ihpone) + 20$ monthly phone payment plan.

the whole thing of this JUMP program is that people can still get phones at the subsidized price.

so like people said up top, when u go to trade it...you have to give up your phone if you're on the JUMP program.

vs

the other normal plan with the phone monthly payment plan, when you want to get a new phone....the payment on the original phone is still there OR you can pay the remainder of the price in one payment. but the phone is yours to keep. t-mobile doesn't want it back...they just want the money for the phone

"With Jump, customers will pay the same subsidized amount that a new customer pays, without the need to wait to qualify for an upgrade. Jump requires T-Mobile customers to pay a $10 monthly fee for the service and trade-in old devices"

quoted from OP. so it has to work like the scenario i said above.

other wise, no one is going to pay (for example) the down payment ($200-ihpone) + phone monthly plan (20$*6=$120) + JUMP program (10$*6=60) + the current phone. to get a new phone.

that logic is ridiculous, that's screwing the consumers even more! they might as well say you can rent a phone @ 65$/month for 6 months.

You're wrong on this front. Take a look at http://explore.t-mobile.com/phone-upgrade under the section titled "Get started with JUMP!" It says the following:
1. Buy a new smartphone on a Simple Choice Plan using our Equipment Installment Program.
2. Enroll in JUMP! for $10 a month when you add Services to your order.
3. Upgrade as soon as six months after enrollment.
4. Trade in your phone each time you upgrade so you can get the same great price as new customers for new phones.

In other words, you only qualify to enroll in JUMP if you're already using the installment program, which is the $20/month payment. So yes, JUMP really is $20 + $10 = $30/month.

The only time I think this really makes sense is when we're six months away from the next iPhone update and someone is considering switching to T-Mobile. Obviously, T-Mobile wants them to switch now instead of sitting on the fence for 6 months. This is something someone might consider in that situation. They can switch to T-Mobile right away, get the current iPhone, then upgrade to the new one when it comes out in 6 months. In that scenario I actually could see someone coming out ahead.

EDIT: they're also claiming 116 markets with LTE, which is a huge lie. They're double-counting adjacent cities. Example is Boston-Cambridge. It is complete crap for them to be counting them separately. And the rollout isn't even remotely done yet.

Yeah, I noticed they did the same thing with Denver and Boulder. But don't act as though the other carriers don't play the same game. I distinctly remember AT&T claiming Dallas and Fort Worth as two separate markets when they first launched LTE. They still do the same thing with Denver and Boulder as well. And San Francisco/San Jose/Oakland.
 
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Yeah, I noticed they did the same thing with Denver and Boulder. But don't act as though the other carriers don't play the same game. I distinctly remember AT&T claiming Dallas and Fort Worth as two separate markets when they first launched LTE. They still do the same thing with Denver and Boulder as well. And San Francisco/San Jose/Oakland.

Looks like they count it as one market now

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(off their site)

but yes, you are correct. they all need to cut it out and stop double counting.
 
There's a difference between trolling and calling them out on their BS.

Correct - i was with them for 6 years and i lived in the sticks of VA, and when i would comute to DC i stayed with them on the promise of the 1900 3g conversion, and on my 4s one block in NW DC was 3g, then down to edge on K street...

Then one week later they said rollover was complete in DC and thought that was a sick cruel joke.

I finally just had to switch to AT&T - as much as i HATE Them i wanted another GSM network for the freedom to switch out to another phone without calling verizon/sprint....

So i broke my contract with them - 5 LINES!!! - 1000 Termination, i tried calling tmo to let them know i was tired of edge and no service in areas where everyone else had service, they said no and so i told them i had 2 lines for upgrade and now they going to make me UPGrade just to sell the phones and leave them, they did not care, so thats what i did - I got 2 samsung gs3's sold them for 520 each and then sold my unlocked 4s for 350 and my daughters htc for 270 - I also wrote to t-mo billing dept who agreed with me to reduce the cancellation fee to $500 instead of $1000 - so i at least thank T-Mo for actually paying me to leave after i sold everything and then made money switching to at&t.

I now pay only 30 more then i was paying with t-mo for 5 lines and 2 lines of those with no data - and now i got better service even LTE just opened in my small VA town.

I wish t-mo would upgrade that crappy edge network and really compete in the major cities suburbs!
 
What an insanely nice plan feature this is. It's too bad T mobile has no reception at home, work or on my commute, otherwise I'd switch to them in a second, gah a new phone every 6 months.
 
They did mention LTE in the riverside area. Does this mean they updated thier towers for around here with those who have an iphone 4 unlocked? So i can stop getting edge and 3G service now?
 
Not sure if AT&T does this, but with Verizon, while you do sign a 2 year contract, you are able to upgrade within 6 months of your contract expiring.

They dropped that like two months effective all new contracts and possibly back dated as well. Now it's 24 months flat. No exceptions
 
Try the new ip5?

Depends where you are;)

I switched to T-mobile a month ago and the service sux, big time:( And I'm in the Tristate area, mostly Manhattan but have friends in New Jersey, right across the Hudson river, not that far... My phone (iPhone 4) jumps between E and 3G all the time. EDGE service on a smartphone is really a patience testing' experience... I cannot get a clear 3G at work or at home where AT&T's 3G was always up... Gonna try RedPocket before going back to the AT&T...

I am taking a stab here and wondering if you have tried the new TMo Ip5 that is optimized for the refarmed network. The difference of coverage btwn the 4 and 5 is huge - atleast for me.
 
Why do poeople not like this?

What is there not to like about this? You do not pay on two phones, you trade your phone in and pay for the new phone.

Sorry, but this sounds amazing and much simpler than selling my own phone.
 
Sorry, but this sounds amazing and much simpler than selling my own phone.

I'm sure if you crunched the numbers, selling your phone on CL and getting another one might be better because they rip you off big time (every carrier) when you try to trade in.

When I got my GS4, Best Buy said my Note 2 was worth $180 on trade-in. I sold it the next day on CL for $500...
 
What is there not to like about this? You do not pay on two phones, you trade your phone in and pay for the new phone.

Sorry, but this sounds amazing and much simpler than selling my own phone.

Except it costs you an extra $10/month PLUS the downpayment every time you upgrade.

It's literally the same thing as leasing a car it seems. Which makes sense for some, but not all, people.
 
Its not that complicated. For someone that wants the latest and greatest every 6 months, then its not that bad of a deal. Its pretty much $60 extra to jump to a new phone every 6 months. I'm still on an iPhone 4, so its not for me. For Android power users, it may be something to think about.

It's more than $60 if you factor in the loss you will incur trading in the phone.
 
So... You're paying $10 a month and you have to give up your old device?

If you want the latest iPhone, on top of the cost of the phone, you're paying $120 a year extra and losing out on the $$$ from selling you're old phone.

Pretty crap deal.

Unless someone sat on it. :rolleyes:
 
WHY are wireless carriers complicating situations that arn't complicated? :confused:

Because most Americans are dumb with basic math.

They look at the lowest monthly payment without actually analyzing the total cost of ownership.

As I calculated it. You will be out $150 plus $60 plus $20x 6 months. That's $330 already before u even want to "upgrade" again. Which requires another $150 downpayment plus $20/month to pay off new phone.

I tell u this. U can buy new iPhone 5S for $650 and 6 months later won't lose $330.
 
Two upgrades per year? Are you all THAT desperate to have a new phone?

Two phone upgrades per year? I almost feel sorry for people who feel the need to change their phone that frequently, but then I realize a wise man once said that a fool and his money are soon parted. Another said that a sucker is born every minute. Both were right.
 
Not sure if AT&T does this, but with Verizon, while you do sign a 2 year contract, you are able to upgrade within 6 months of your contract expiring. So really you are only locked in for 18 months. I don't see the need to continuously update your device unless you just have to have the best thing that's out. Which is fine, just would rather save that money to spend on something else.

My personal preference. To each their own of course!

Not anymore.
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/04/1...pgrade-cycles-changing-to-24-months-and-more/
 
I am taking a stab here and wondering if you have tried the new TMo Ip5 that is optimized for the refarmed network. The difference of coverage btwn the 4 and 5 is huge - atleast for me.

I tried a T mo ip5 in the tri state area for a couple of weeks, it sucked. In NYC it was great, but that's a given with any cell phone company, except inside buildings it could be flaky. In NJ it was spotty but it wasn't terrible at all, except for once again, inside buildings. Inside my hospital where I got 5 bars LTE ATT, I got 0-1 bars of Tmobile, completely unusable. I also tried the same with an ATT Note 2 which I flashed to have the Tmobile bands.

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Two phone upgrades per year? I almost feel sorry for people who feel the need to change their phone that frequently, but then I realize a wise man once said that a fool and his money are soon parted. Another said that a sucker is born every minute. Both were right.

Why denigrate someone else's choices? You upgrade your phone every 24 months? You must be a fool instead of keeping your phone for 5 years. Maybe some of us are smarter and save enough money to afford a new phone when we want one, I know I save enough to buy one every year unsubsidized simply by being on prepaid instead of post paid. It's tough to fathom, but some are smart enough to have their cake and eat it too.
 
To me, it actually looks like a pretty good deal, if I have understood everything correctly. Assume you want a new iPhone each year. You pay $146 up front, and then $10 per month. So that's $266 per year, which includes insurance. That's $22 per month indefinitely to always have the latest iPhone model.

If you instead buy the iPhone outright for $649, you may be able to sell it for $200 less or so a year later. That's about $16 per month or so. But you may loose more that $200 if the phone is not in good condition. And you're also not covered by any insurance. So the "Jump" deal sounds like a pretty fair deal to me.
 
If you read other comments, you'd see the confusion. I still get the 18 month deal. Not sure of the new conditions or requirements or being grandfathered in, etc.

Any contract expiring after January 2014 gets locked into a full 24 month cycle, not 18 anymore. So while you still may have it, anybody else who's contract expires in 2014 needs to wait. For instance one of the lines on my plan was upgraded March 2012. It originally said the upgrade at discounted pricing would be available in November 2013, now Verizon says March 2014 and says something along the lines of "Your upgrade date is now aligned with the end of your contract".

This looks like a good deal from T-Mobile. Verizon better come up with something like this (or at least no contracts) or else I would heavily consider switching. Problem is T-Mobile has no LTE in this area. They don't really even have a reliable 3G network.
 
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