Carrier T-Mobile gained 4.4 million net customers in 2013

[2298754]

Y Check the rootmetrics scores, Tmobile beats AT&T in half of the markets surveyed.

I'm still waiting on those markets... So which ones are they?

 

[Col Ronson]

I'm still waiting on those markets... So which ones are they?

haha RATS someone making me do research

i'll get back to you on that I remember reading that stat somewhere, but its a mute point. Obviously AT&T wins hands down on download speed alone; but thats top speeds. Also, half the rootmetrics reports from early 2013 pit HSPA+ vs LTE; hardly a fair comparison.

The only one i could find so far was Washington D.C.
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2013/11/prweb11342277.htm

While AT&T beat Tmobile in overall score, Tmobile beat everybody in max speed in NYC/TriState
http://www.rootmetrics.com/compare-...w-york-city-and-tri-state-area-november-2013/

http://www.rootmetrics.com/compare-carriers/united-states/san-francisco/san-francisco-october-2013/
Same story in San Francisco.

Point being yes AT&T is better than Tmobile, but Tmobile doesn't "suck." For some, the lower price is worth the what i would say MARGINAL reduction in quality.

By the way the recurring theme in all these rootmetric reports is Sprint is dead last in basically every city i've checked. Also, reports from early 2013 is kinda irrelevant seeing how the LTE network was only just deployed. I think over time the gap will only closer as the LTE rollout completes. After all, they've already started deploying the 20x20 network.

 

[2298754]

. Also, half the rootmetrics reports from early 2013 pit HSPA+ vs LTE; hardly a fair comparison.

I'm not sure about this. T-Mobile was deploying LTE since January, since they announced LTE at CES 2013.

The only one i could find so far was Washington D.C.
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2013/11/prweb11342277.htm

While AT&T beat Tmobile in overall score, Tmobile beat everybody in max speed in NYC/TriState
http://www.rootmetrics.com/compare-...w-york-city-and-tri-state-area-november-2013/

http://www.rootmetrics.com/compare-carriers/united-states/san-francisco/san-francisco-october-2013/
Same story in San Francisco.

Slightly faster peak throughput, but overall network reliability is lower, compared to VZW/AT&T

By the way the recurring theme in all these rootmetric reports is Sprint is dead last in basically every city i've checked.

Oh, I agree with this 100%. There are some places where Sprint creeps to 3rd and T-mo is 4th, but overall, it's dreadful.

NV is a joke. Chicago is the only market that is basically finished.

They're still last in speed, combined scores, etc. They have a slightly higher reliability than T-Mo.

After all, they've already started deploying the 20x20 network.

So has VZW and they already have it in many cities. T-Mobile has it on a few towers in Dallas, that's it.

 

[Apple Trees]

I don't get why some of these guys are trying to argue T-Mobile is better than Verizon or AT&T. It's not, period, end of story. At most they are just an acceptable alternative in some markets for those who want to save money.

As for Sprint? They're the running joke of the US Wireless industry. Network Vision - ETA late 2016.

 

[PsstGreek]

I don't get why some of these guys are trying to argue T-Mobile is better than Verizon or AT&T. It's not, period, end of story. At most they are just an acceptable alternative in some markets for those who want to save money.

As for Sprint? They're the running joke of the US Wireless industry. Network Vision - ETA late 2016.

Each carrier has their pros and cons. Whoever has the best service in your specific area is who you choose.

 

[JackieInCo]

I don't get why some of these guys are trying to argue T-Mobile is better than Verizon or AT&T. It's not, period, end of story. At most they are just an acceptable alternative in some markets for those who want to save money.

As for Sprint? They're the running joke of the US Wireless industry. Network Vision - ETA late 2016.

Maybe these two screen caps will make you understand. The iPad Mini was using AT&T and at 1AM, the speeds should have been incredible using LTE.

The 5S is using T-Mobile in the middle of the day.

I broke my AT&T contract a year ago because I could never get any better speeds then these. Here it is a year later and the speeds are still bad. Verizon is just as bad in my City which is Broomfield Colorado.

T-Mobile for the win.

 

[osofast240sx]

Maybe these two screen caps will make you understand. The iPad Mini was using AT&T and at 1AM, the speeds should have been incredible using LTE.

The 5S is using T-Mobile in the middle of the day.

I broke my AT&T contract a year ago because I could never get any better speeds then these. Here it is a year later and the speeds are still bad. Verizon is just as bad in my City which is Broomfield Colorado.

T-Mobile for the win.

Nice it's blazing fast in tri state area

 

[jamezr]

I might switch my 4 lines from AT&T to T-Mobile if they pay my ETF fees.....
T-Mobile has great service in my area...

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[aajeevlin]

Is there a well organized T-mobile service thread (by actual customers), based on city and states? I think it'd be useful to know for those who wants to switch over but unsure about the "actual" coverage of the particular area.

 

[2298754]

Is there a well organized T-mobile service thread (by actual customers), based on city and states? I think it'd be useful to know for those who wants to switch over but unsure about the "actual" coverage of the particular area.

The howardforums T-Mobile section is better for that. It's more of a mess here with people asking the exact same questions over and over again (T-Mo in NYC for example)

 

[PsstGreek]

Is there a well organized T-mobile service thread (by actual customers), based on city and states? I think it'd be useful to know for those who wants to switch over but unsure about the "actual" coverage of the particular area.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1591542/

It's somewhat organized. I started it back in June.

 

[aajeevlin]

The howardforums T-Mobile section is better for that. It's more of a mess here with people asking the exact same questions over and over again (T-Mo in NYC for example)

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1591542/

It's somewhat organized. I started it back in June.

Will take a look at it. Thanks guy.

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I might switch my 4 lines from AT&T to T-Mobile if they pay my ETF fees.....
T-Mobile has great service in my area...

Haha, that's awesome I asked a similar question earlier regarding the coverage of Tmobile in a particular area, and here you are posting information about the Phoenix area, which is where I'm at.

Although as someone who lives in Phoenix I'm actually more concern with the signal while traveling north or south of Phoenix. I mean you have the mountains to the north (going to Flagstaff), then going down south you have the desert (down to Tucson). Not that I go there all the time, but it'd be interesting to know how Tmobile is like in those areas.

 

[jamezr]

Will take a look at it. Thanks guy.
Although as someone who lives in Phoenix I'm actually more concern with the signal while traveling north or south of Phoenix. I mean you have the mountains to the north (going to Flagstaff), then going down south you have the desert (down to Tucson). Not that I go there all the time, but it'd be interesting to know how Tmobile is like in those areas.

Checkout this website.
It will give you all the info you need! You can plugin city names or zip codes....
http://www.rootmetrics.com/check-coverage/

 

[aajeevlin]

Checkout this website.
It will give you all the info you need! You can plugin city names or zip codes....
http://www.rootmetrics.com/check-coverage/

Thanks! I have Verizon right now, and so far my experience has been positive (the price aside). Although, I always felt that Verizon's LTE is on the slower end comparing to ATT and Tmobile. I still got almost 10 months until my contract is over, so I have sometime to do my homework.

 

[jamezr]

Thanks! I have Verizon right now, and so far my experience has been positive (the price aside). Although, I always felt that Verizon's LTE is on the slower end comparing to ATT and Tmobile. I still got almost 10 months until my contract is over, so I have sometime to do my homework.

I am just like you...I have AT&T and I am pretty much happy with them. But if T-Mobile announces a new plan to pay my ETF to switch from AT&T. I might just switch. T-Mobile has basically the same coverage in my area and has unlimited data and is cheaper......... But I need to do a little more research before I make the move.....

 

[2298754]

Although as someone who lives in Phoenix I'm actually more concern with the signal while traveling north or south of Phoenix. I mean you have the mountains to the north (going to Flagstaff), then going down south you have the desert (down to Tucson). Not that I go there all the time, but it'd be interesting to know how Tmobile is like in those areas.

Here's some crowd-sourced maps from Sensorly.com. They're usually pretty accurate.

2G/3G map

LTE

Looks like there is tons of EDGE (blue) outside of PHX. The road to Flagstaff is all EDGE until you get into the actual city. But to road to Tucson has HSPA, but also overlaid with EDGE blocks, so you could probably expect EDGE with spotty HSPA.

http://www.t-mobile.com/coverage.html -> here, if you zoom in between PHX and the two cities, it's all pretty much "Service partner" or 2G.

For comparison, it looks like VZW has the area blanketed with LTE, including highways.

VZW LTE

 

[aajeevlin]

Here's some crowd-sourced maps from Sensorly.com. They're usually pretty accurate.

2G/3G map
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LTE
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Looks like there is tons of EDGE (blue) outside of PHX. The road to Flagstaff is all EDGE until you get into the actual city. But to road to Tucson has HSPA, but also overlaid with EDGE blocks, so you could probably expect EDGE with spotty HSPA.

http://www.t-mobile.com/coverage.html -> here, if you zoom in between PHX and the two cities, it's all pretty much "Service partner" or 2G.

For comparison, it looks like VZW has the area blanketed with LTE, including highways.

VZW LTE
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Thanks for the info, this will certainly be useful for me and people who are interested in switching. Like I said, I still have 10 months to go (and I don't plan to break the contract early), so I'll be checking on this from time to time to see Tmobile's development.

 

[2298754]

Thanks for the info, this will certainly be useful for me and people who are interested in switching. Like I said, I still have 10 months to go (and I don't plan to break the contract early), so I'll be checking on this from time to time to see Tmobile's development.

No problem. Another way to check their progress is on sensorly.com. People are pretty quick to "map" LTE upgrades and such.

 

[jamezr]

No problem. Another way to check their progress is on sensorly.com. People are pretty quick to "map" LTE upgrades and such.

I don't know….i think root metrics is more accurate…..

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[osofast240sx]

I don't know….i think root metrics is more accurate…..

T-Mobile is kicking some major butt!

 

[osofast240sx]

Thanks for the info, this will certainly be useful for me and people who are interested in switching. Like I said, I still have 10 months to go (and I don't plan to break the contract early), so I'll be checking on this from time to time to see Tmobile's development.

Sensorly is way off the mark for T-Mobile coverage. Sensorly requires user data to guesstimate the coverage. Any of the carriers will have significantly more coverage than what on a sensorly map. Not enough users use this app.

 

[jamezr]

Sensorly is way off the mark for T-Mobile coverage. Sensorly requires user data to guesstimate the coverage. Any of the carriers will have significantly more coverage than what on a sensorly map. Not enough users use this app.

EXACTLY! That is why I always point people to root metrics.com they are independent and more reliable. Sensorly is very biased towards the bigger carrier because it relies on individuals to post their coverage. so the bigger carriers will always have more input data. That is not very accurate. Independent data collection is more accurate.

 

[2298754]

EXACTLY! That is why I always point people to root metrics.com they are independent and more reliable. Sensorly is very biased towards the bigger carrier because it relies on individuals to post their coverage.

Not really. I wouldn't agree to this. If you at the Sprint maps, they're pretty solid. (Better than Sprint's own website.) It all depends on the user base and who puts stuff up. They're both crowd-sourced. You can post data to root metrics via the app. Same as sensorly.

The rootmetrics tests have no merit outside of those areas. If you look at the sensorly maps, they show exactly LTE is deployed, how much, and where you will loose it. This is important for T-Mobile due to their spotty HSPA/LTE network. If you look at the PHX maps above, you notice that there is LTE to the north, but in between is all EDGE/roaming. Rootmetrics would never show you that. It merely shows you data speeds and the reliability of calls/texts/data.

Both of these sources should be used together. Not cherry picked to prove a flawed point. Rootmetrics shows that T-Mo's service INSIDE PHX is pretty good. Sensorly shows that it isn't that great outside. Tons of EDGE in between cities.

 

[EbookReader]

http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/01/09/ces-tmobileus-idINL2N0KI2AO20140109

It said it added 1.645 million net customers in the fourth quarter, up from 1.023 million in the quarter before, marking its third quarter of customer growth for 2013.

 

[jamezr]

Not really. I wouldn't agree to this. If you at the Sprint maps, they're pretty solid. (Better than Sprint's own website.) It all depends on the user base and who puts stuff up. They're both crowd-sourced. You can post data to root metrics via the app. Same as sensorly.

The rootmetrics tests have no merit outside of those areas. If you look at the sensorly maps, they show exactly LTE is deployed, how much, and where you will loose it. This is important for T-Mobile due to their spotty HSPA/LTE network. If you look at the PHX maps above, you notice that there is LTE to the north, but in between is all EDGE/roaming. Rootmetrics would never show you that. It merely shows you data speeds and the reliability of calls/texts/data.

Both of these sources should be used together. Not cherry picked to prove a flawed point. Rootmetrics shows that T-Mo's service INSIDE PHX is pretty good. Sensorly shows that it isn't that great outside. Tons of EDGE in between cities.

LOL….you can try to spin it anyway you want to and downplay all the graphs and data that show T-mobile is doing great……..hope that makes you feel better. But the proof is out there for everyone to see by independent sources. It doesn't rely on individuals to say they have LTE or 4G in this area or not. Sensorly data is very biased on who is actually taking the time to announce their coverage. Their sample data is very suspect and not accurate. What if more Verizon or Sprint customers data is collected? Then the data gets skewered. That is what happens when you rely on customers to report for themselves individually instead of being collected by a third party. If more AT&T customers report their service….then it will look like AT&T has great coverage. Look at all the dots! But in reality it is just that more AT&T customers responded. That is why third party polling is required. This is data analeptics 101. the sample data has to be collected by a third party and it has to represent all carriers independently and consistently and the same amount of data collected for all carriers.

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http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/01/09/ces-tmobileus-idINL2N0KI2AO20140109

When I was in the T-Mobile store last night asking about the new plans i asked the manager about them gaining new customers. They said they were seeing a steady flow of new customers all the time. They had a bulletin about the new uncannier plan and were prepared to to be very busy today when they opened.
I think T-Mobile is changing the wireless industry with their new plans and aggressive pricing. this is extremely good for us consumers. More competition is always good….it brings pricing down and gives consumers the advantage.