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"Data Rollover" "Data Stash" "Higher Data Package" all means nothing when the coverage is that horrible. I had T-Mobile for about 2 months (last spring) and it was useless to me...not even kinda good. It was terrible.
If your area truly doesn't have good coverage from T-Mobile then it is a shame you have to deal with AT&T or Verizon.
 
Nicely played. Rollover data is something that customers will only use on occasion, but it's a concept that people can easily understand. It directly responds to other carriers' lowering the cost of their individual plans by offering up something that AT&T and Verizon would be loathe to offer themselves. If AT&T and Verizon match this move, they would carve a huge chunk out of what they currently collect from overage fees. T-Mobile already did away with overage charges, so this move has minimal financial impact on them, but huge marketing upside.

Smart strategic move.

Just in the last year as a T-Mobile customer, they've added free tethering, international roaming, and unlimited music streaming -- and I'm on a $30 prepaid plan. And the service in my area has gone from HSPA+ to LTE to wideband LTE in less than 12 months. As long as these "Uncarrier" moves and network improvements keep adding value to my service, I have no reason to even consider other carriers.
 
Wow this is pretty amazing. I never thought I'd see one of the carriers offer this. Wonder if I should even keep my unlimited data plan now.

No one offers unlimited - even "grandfathered" unlimited plans are essentially like what TMobile offers for it's high-end range (i.e., 5GB soft cap, speed throttled thereafter).
 
They way I understood my T-moble plan, once I hit my data cap, I wasn't charged overages, I was just knocked down to 3G speeds for the remainder of the month. Does that mean that they will start charging overage fees once you go over, that the roll over just applies to who much 4G speed data I have each month, or am I missing the point entirely.
 
Nicely played. Rollover data is something that customers will only use on occasion, but it's a concept that people can easily understand. It directly responds to other carriers' lowering the cost of their individual plans by offering up something that AT&T and Verizon would be loathe to offer themselves. If AT&T and Verizon match this move, they would carve a huge chunk out of what they currently collect from overage fees. T-Mobile already did away with overage charges, so this move has minimal financial impact on them, but huge marketing upside.

Smart strategic move.

Just in the last year as a T-Mobile customer, they've added free tethering, international roaming, and unlimited music streaming -- and I'm on a $30 prepaid plan. And the service in my area has gone from HSPA+ to LTE to wideband LTE in less than 12 months. As long as these "Uncarrier" moves and network improvements keep adding value to my service, I have no reason to even consider other carriers.

Its not only a great move for the optics - now some of my family members on my account may be tempted to upgrade from the $0 extra 1GB plan to a +$10/mo 3GB plan because they get rollover data with that extra $10. They'll likely never use it, but it's like buying insurance - you have it (in spades) when you need it and it's nice to know you don't need to worry about it.
 
No one offers unlimited - even "grandfathered" unlimited plans are essentially like what TMobile offers for it's high-end range (i.e., 5GB soft cap, speed throttled thereafter).

Not true. Pay $30 on TMO and you get unlimited data with NO throttling of any kind.
 
They way I understood my T-moble plan, once I hit my data cap, I wasn't charged overages, I was just knocked down to 3G speeds for the remainder of the month. Does that mean that they will start charging overage fees once you go over, that the roll over just applies to who much 4G speed data I have each month, or am I missing the point entirely.

Instead of dropping to 3G speeds if you go over your monthly, you will now start using your "rollover" allotment. On months where you don't use as much you'll be in "saving" mode where you fill your allotment.

You start off with 10GB but won't start filling it until you burn through that.

Personally with a 5GB/unlimited plan, it's very unlikely I'll ever burn through even the 10GB they give you to start with.
 
No one offers unlimited - even "grandfathered" unlimited plans are essentially like what TMobile offers for it's high-end range (i.e., 5GB soft cap, speed throttled thereafter).

Huh? T-Mobile is 100% unlimited... Most plans are throttled after a certain amount, yes, but you have no limit to how much of the data that you can use (tethering is a slightly different story). I think you're forgetting about the unthrottled unlimited plan at $80 (previously $70)...

Instead of dropping to 3G speeds if you go over your monthly, you will now start using your "rollover" allotment. On months where you don't use as much you'll be in "saving" mode where you fill your allotment.

You start off with 10GB but won't start filling it until you burn through that.

Personally with a 5GB/unlimited plan, it's very unlikely I'll ever burn through even the 10GB they give you to start with.

They never had 3G throttling... It was always 128Kbps. That's still the case now, even with the data stash feature.

Not true. Pay $30 on TMO and you get unlimited data with NO throttling of any kind.

You're referring to the +$30 add-on and not the $30 prepaid plan, right?
 
19m30s: Legere owns him with the pr0n statement


..I love this man! Coolest big corporation CEO ever?
 
Yep. The good thing is they're rolling out their LTE network at a pretty rapid clip. Also encouraging is they have a very strong network in high population areas. If VZ and AT&T start losing customers at a rapid clip in NYC, Chicago, SF, etc....they'll have to respond.

Yup, their weakness has been the network coverage in the outlying areas. That won't improve until their 700 MHz (Band 12) expansion begins in earnest next year, and customers upgrade their devices.

In the meantime, T-Mobile will keep fortifying their network within the populated metro areas. Just since February, I've seen the network speeds at my office jump from 7 Mbps to 28 Mbps to 60+ Mbps. Bottomline is that if you live in an area with decent T-Mobile service, it will keep getting better. If not, then you'll have to wait and see what happens next year. Considering how rapidly T-Mobile deployed their LTE network, that might not take long.
 
Bottomline is that if you live in an area with decent T-Mobile service, it will keep getting better. If not, then you'll have to wait and see what happens next year. Considering how rapidly T-Mobile deployed their LTE network, that might not take long.

Well, all 2G areas are getting LTE added on, so even if the answer is still "if not," things will get better for them as well.
 
No one offers unlimited - even "grandfathered" unlimited plans are essentially like what TMobile offers for it's high-end range (i.e., 5GB soft cap, speed throttled thereafter).

They offer fully unlimited right now. That's the one I'm on. The $70 plan, no throttling.

I'm never switching to Tmobile as long as they have 2G only in my city.

Well lucky for you they will have their entire 2G footprint upgraded to LTE by mid-2015.
 
19m30s: Legere owns him with the pr0n statement


..I love this man! Coolest big corporation CEO ever?

Recall his epic rant about "bendgate" ...

That is such horse****. Listen, what the f*‚ did you need to see? The video of the guy that's doing this, and if you could have seen his face he probably would have been purple and the veins are coming out of his fingers. And the thing moves a little bit? Are you ****ting me?

This is an amazing supercomputer in your hand. What the f* are you putting it in your pants and sitting on it for? Seriously. You know what, those nine people who sat on their phones, first of all, they need jeans that fit them a little better.

Let me help you about bendgate or whatever it was. It's not slowing down demand. The demand for these devices in the last few weeks is unbelievable.
 
Recall his epic rant about "bendgate" ...

haha I do, I enjoyed it!

I only hope Legere is a jailbreaker, too making statements like iphone is a supercomputer :p

He's seriously shaking up the cell phone industry for better. A carrier that brands itself on being un-carrier like. Genius
 
For infrastructure, the central government should handle the investments. We need this technology to be free of greed.

That's easily the most naive thing I've read all day. The government already operates at an extreme loss while taking almost 50% of everything my family earns. If they can't already pay for the infrastructure with that system, then they shouldn't be allowed anywhere near it.

Let's be clear about what you're *really* trying to say: "half the country should be getting this infrastructure for free while the other half foots the bill".

Funny how it's not "greed" for some to expect the rest of us to pay the way, but it IS greed for me to just keep my own money in my pocket to be used as I see fit.
 
So am I in the US with T-Mobile :cool:.

Does 3 include unlimited tethering?

mine does but they have stopped offering to new contracts as people especially in london were taking the **** and using it both as a main home broadband connection and a torrent downloader
 
I only hope that Legere can turn all these great offers into profit for T-Mobile. While that might be counterintuitive as a consumer to say, if they don't start making profits soon, all these great consumer-friendly deals will quickly vanish.

T-Mobile has lost $7B in market cap this year (-26% YTD) and unless a buyer shows up quickly or they find a way to make $$$, all this great stuff will come to an end. Their current strategy of quickly adding subscribers hasn't turned a profit for them and they're going to need billions in 2015 to buy more spectrum and upgrade their network. The consumers are coming out ahead and Legere is definitely cashing in ($29M in compensation last year), but the owners won't allow themselves to continue to both lose $ and value too much longer.
 
This is fabulous. T-Mobile is doing great things. I almost want to switch just to support them, but right now on an AT&T family plan I'm paying a cool $55 for unlimited talk*, text, and data**. Kinda hard to turn that down. And that's with getting a subsidized phone every 2 yeras.


*Not technically unlimited, but more than we could ever use
**this is of course AT&T's "umlimited" plan with throttling after 5GB

You have a contract. Also how much does adding a family line cost? On Tmobile each of my line subscribers has their own data pool and unlimited "slow" data past their LTE limit - and pay nothing for the data. So $10/mo for each extra line and they all have 1GB fast data. Shared data is a curse and time bomb.

Seriously the basics of the AT&T plan look good until you realize that AT&T is designed to charge you overages still - for data, for international calls, for roaming, you name it.
 
They offer fully unlimited right now. That's the one I'm on. The $70 plan, no throttling.

Could be cancelled tomorrow. You're not guaranteed for life, unlike specific previous Sprint plans.

You don't think this move is one more step (the last step?) towards tiered data?
 
Or someone who is a realist and not a dreamer. Every time Verizon does something, ATT counters or visa versa. When is the last time the big carriers responded to anything the little carriers did?

Have you not been paying attention?

Everything they're doing today from a standpoint of pricing breaks and consumer friendliness is a result of moves by T-Mobile.

Do you think that one of them wakes up in the morning and says, "I think I'll lower my prices."? Do you not notice that everything AT&T & VZW have done from a standpoint of data allowance increases, and decreased prices has followed closely on the heels of a move by TMO, and to a lesser degree Sprint?

Sure, VZW might make a move a day or two after AT&T, or vice versa. But the first of the two to make a move is always "sort of" copying TMO.

And as far as VZW and AT&T's claim that they're head and shoulders above TMO in quality, take a look at the rootmetrics website below. The gap is closing almost everywhere, and in many major cities TMO is coming in first, second or tied in network quality and performance compared to the other two.

http://www.rootmetrics.com/us
 
Somebody needs to school Legere on the difference between a "megabit" and a "megabyte". Despite making the mistake three or four times at the beginning of the interview and subsequently being corrected by Pogue, he makes the same mistake again toward the end of the interview. Legere is a brilliant marketing guy, no question; but it makes him look uneducated about the technology when he makes such a rookie mistake.
 
You have a contract. Also how much does adding a family line cost? On Tmobile each of my line subscribers has their own data pool and unlimited "slow" data past their LTE limit - and pay nothing for the data. So $10/mo for each extra line and they all have 1GB fast data. Shared data is a curse and time bomb.

Seriously the basics of the AT&T plan look good until you realize that AT&T is designed to charge you overages still - for data, for international calls, for roaming, you name it.

The contract part doesn't really bother me. I have to reason to switch around to different carriers all the time. Also, no data overages (unlimited), I don't make international calls. And haha "roaming"?? Does that still exist? I've never had my phone on roaming since as long as I can remember.

I have no doubt that the 4 lines combined (2 with data and 2 without) would be cheaper on T-mo, but my parents have been on AT&T (cingular) for as long as I can remember. And they are paying the price of the "Primary" user, so they are eating the "extra" costs. I might be able to convince them to switch to T-Mo if I determine what the cost savings would be. I would likely end up paying the same price, and my coverage might go down... I suppose it would be something to look into.

Honestly, I've always considered staying on the family plan vs getting my own T-Mo. I haven't even thought about trying to move my entire family to T-Mo. Although, I did just get the iPhone 6, so I'm not sure how that would work. I know T-Mo does eat up some contract termination fees.
 
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