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I can think of a good reason other than T-Mob not having the iPhone to not use T-Mob -- like their weak sauce service. They have great customer service, but their actual phone and data services make Sprint look as reliable as a shot of a absinthe.
 
It is the fact that they knowingly copied. Regardless of the phone model, how innovative is that? That was my point.

However, big screen, faster processor, yeah makes for a new model but with new "innovative" technology, such as in-touch screen for thinner glass and thus thinner phone and latest tech in processor for improved phone performance.

I can copy the Bible with a few alterations here and there. Doesn't mean my version will be "titled" The Greatest Story Ever RE-Told!
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More than just knowingly copied - WILLFULLY copied. Which is why they can go for treble damages.
 
It is the fact that they knowingly copied. Regardless of the phone model, how innovative is that? That was my point.

But what does Samsung have to do with anything? The OP said the next iPhone wasn't innovative. I'm not sure what Samsung has to do with that.
 
This either means: They strike a deal on that day or, I'm going to wait patiently until next year.

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Yeah T-mobile! Keep marketing that 4G network with 6 MB down!

With LTE-Advanced coming next year with 1 Gbps. Oh and I'm sure the next iPhone's cellular chip can support LTE-A.
 
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why no free market

When I buy a car nobody tells me I can only drive certain roads. Congress should make qa law putting an end to this syndicating.
By the way in Germmany t-mobile there has the iphone.
 
I don't think it is TMO that doesn't want the iPhone. Apple just doesn't support their frequencies. So, TMO has no choice but to sell android POS phones.

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I can think of a good reason other than T-Mob not having the iPhone to not use T-Mob -- like their weak sauce service. They have great customer service, but their actual phone and data services make Sprint look as reliable as a shot of a absinthe.

I have no issues with their coverage. Take you weak*** sauce elsewhere.
 
So they're just following what AT&T and Verizon does? :p
Exactly. Let's not forget that T-Mobile was really one of the first carriers to carry the first set of Android phones in the USA (at least to my knowledge). So it wouldn't be a surprise at all that they push Android sales more.
 
I have no issues with their coverage. Take you weak*** sauce elsewhere.

Congratulations. You are a member of the 1%... the 1% that can get decent T-Mob coverage, no matter where they travel in the U.S.. Either that or you work for their PR team. Really... there is a reason they are lagging behind in sales with the other 3 U.S. carriers. (Hint: it's not all because they don't have the iPhone).
 
Congratulations. You are a member of the 1%... the 1% that can get decent T-Mob coverage, no matter where they travel in the U.S.. Either that or you work for their PR team. Really... there is a reason they are lagging behind in sales with the other 3 U.S. carriers. (Hint: it's not all because they don't have the iPhone).

Being a pilot, I travel around the USA quite a bit. If you go to the major cities, you have lots of choices, pretty much any carrier works, but when you are out in small towns, you are pretty much limited to "the Death Star" or "Big Red" if you want your service to be reliable.
 
What did they replace it with? DROID RAZR MAXX. Yep.

Makes you wonder. Are there people who think that a name consisting of unintelligible character sequences is somehow cool? What is this supposed to mean? A very huge razor for Androids?
 
Nothing new here. If you go into a verzion or AT&T store they will try to sell u ever phone but the iPhone. This internal memo is proof that tmobile will get the iPhone.

Well they aren't going to be selling Samsung phones either!

I understand iPhone has lower margin for carriers... And telcos HATE the fact that Apple has their usual anti-consumer policies over a barrel. Apple single-handedely ended the days of expensive phones being gimped with advertized features stripped out at the Telcos whim.

Apple turned the whole telco model upside down. People go to the store FOR AN iPhone.... And they EXPECT iPhones to have the same features no matter where they get them.
 
Are talking about the Galaxy S III?

Surely they are talking about the newly announced LG Optimus G with better specs than Galaxy SIII. Also one version even comes with water/splash-proof design, making us wonder why anyone would consider the inferior GS III :p
 
oh wow! a stretched iphone with an extra row of icons! so innovative! :D
While I would agree that calling it the "most innovative phone" is a bit hyperbolic, the sarcastic responses suggest that they're not innovative at all, which quite frankly is not true. They've singlehandedly created the smartphone market. I don't know of any other phone that has come out with features that I would consider to be truly innovative. A larger screen is not what I consider innovation.
 
My question is why are they being told to "Sell against the iPhone", when they don't sell iPhones.
If someone's goes to a T-Mobile store with intent to buy a new phone there, the iPhone isn't really on their list of options. My point being is why would they say it about the iPhone if they're not getting it? Otherwise, it would be much easier for them to say "Just sell whatever. It won't be an iPhone."
So to me, this is suggesting that they'll get it. Although it could be interpreted as 'Sell them something else so they don't go to the other guy's place for an iPhone.'

Two weeks from tomorrow we'll find out.
 
I've been shopping at T-Mo the last couple weekends and all I hear is "yeah you can bring your iPhone but it's only 2G. Come look at one of these 4G phones."

No thanks, but at half-price compared to ATT, I am so there once this contract runs out.

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I think it will just cost a bit more to join T-Mobile with an unlocked iPhone, though it might not be compatible with T-Mobile's 4G network. As long as you live in, or travel to, cities with free wi-fi hotspots readily available...

It doesn't cost anything to join T-mo with an unlocked iPhone. What are you referring to? I'm not aware of any cost at all.
 
When I buy a car nobody tells me I can only drive certain roads. Congress should make qa law putting an end to this syndicating.
By the way in Germmany t-mobile there has the iphone.
Not that simple.
Roads don't require a frequency specific radio chip to operate on. ;)

T-Mobile Germany uses different frequencies than T-Mobile USA.
 
While I would agree that calling it the "most innovative phone" is a bit hyperbolic, the sarcastic responses suggest that they're not innovative at all, which quite frankly is not true. They've singlehandedly created the smartphone market. I don't know of any other phone that has come out with features that I would consider to be truly innovative. A larger screen is not what I consider innovation.

You are right. The iPhone was innovative. Too bad, it isn't anymore.
 
The T-mobile girl is hot though.....I can see it her holding the iPhone thn driving off into the sunset in her motorcycle ""end of tmo commercial""
 
You are right. The iPhone was innovative. Too bad, it isn't anymore.
What's your idea of "innovative"? I hear a lot of complaints about Apple's lack of innovation, but I don't see what's in HTC, Samsung, or Google phones that suggest that Apple is any less innovative than them. Is Apple supposed to make your jaw drop with EVERY single product release? Have they *ever* done that for more than a couple of releases?

I have never understood the customer complaints with regards to tech. It's a wide open market. If you don't like a particular product, there are quite a few (often dozens) of other choices. When I was a PC user, I never complained about Macs. They simply didn't fit my needs at the time. When I made the switch, it was because I REALLY liked the form factor of the MacBook Air and didn't really care about the differences in the OS. I never wasted any time complaining about PC's. They worked fine. The MBA just didn't have an equal at the time.

There's nothing all that significant about any of these products. They're mostly toys, sometimes tools, and to a lesser degree a style accessory. As toys, they all have fun apps. As tools, they all can accomplish what I need them to do. So the only true differentiating factor is style. And let's face it - style is completely subjective. You'll choose what you like. I'll choose what I like. Live and let live.

So why all the bitching about iPhones? If you're really that fed up with the company or hate its products, choose a different product. Unless you're shorting the stock, I don't see why you would waste time and energy complaining about Apple. And on an Apple-centric forum of all places.
 
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Well this pretty much confirms no iPhone launching on T-Mobile next month. Oh well I'll just continue to wait for the refarm with my 4S. I'll be fine with 6-8mbps down once the network is done and paying around $40 less than what I would on AT&T per month.

Now for T-Mobile itself, this is gearing up to be another catastrophic quarter of subscriber losses. Despite bringing true unlimited data and now soon supporting unlocked iPhones with 3G/4G, the fact of the matter is that customers want to be able to walk into a T-Mobile store and get a subsidized iPhone for $200. They want official carrier support for their device and everything whenever they have problems. The average consumer doesn't even know what unlocking is.
 
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