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The latest carrier bundle format requires 6.1.x. And even if you are jailbroken and don't get the carrier bundle update, you can update it through itunes. The carrier bundle will be easily accessible.

It's available right now if I plug into iTunes?
 
They give you 500MB of hotspot free. 2GB for 10/month. Or 4GB for 20/month.

Source: Tmobile's website.

I;ve got the 5GB 100 talk unlimited text for 30$
Can i tether at all? i have the option in settings but when i tried to connect my friends ipod today it redirected me to log into my t mobile account
 
I;ve got the 5GB 100 talk unlimited text for 30$
Can i tether at all? i have the option in settings but when i tried to connect my friends ipod today it redirected me to log into my t mobile account

That was only for the unlimited plan (70/mo). I am not sure about your plan, but since its limited its possible it may work. Try it out.

NVMD you already did.
 
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When it's available, it will be in this list:

Code:
curl -s -L http://phobos.apple.com/version | grep -i ios6.1.*_us_
 
I;ve got the 5GB 100 talk unlimited text for 30$
Can i tether at all? i have the option in settings but when i tried to connect my friends ipod today it redirected me to log into my t mobile account

I should have purchased the WiFi-Cellular model of the iPad Mini (AT&T). That $30 plan is a steal for tablets. Darn!!!
 
And what is that list of?

Links to carrier updates used by iTunes.


Code:
$  curl -s -L http://phobos.apple.com/version | grep -i ios6.1.*_us_
				<string>http://appldnld.apple.com/iOS6.1/CarrierBundles/091-1927.20130308.EDegc/Alltel_US_iPhone.ipcc</string>
				<string>http://appldnld.apple.com/iOS6.1/CarrierBundles/091-0766.20130129.To5tg/Bluegrass_LTE_US_iPhone.ipcc</string>
				<string>http://appldnld.apple.com/iOS6.1/CarrierBundles/091-0767.20130129.HbJsh/Cellcom_LTE_US_iPhone.ipcc</string>
				<string>http://appldnld.apple.com/iOS6.1/CarrierBundles/091-1926.20130308.341rf/Chariton_LTE_US_iPhone.ipcc</string>
				<string>http://appldnld.apple.com/iOS6.1/CarrierBundles/091-1925.20130308.62fiv/Chariton_US_iPhone.ipcc</string>
				<string>http://appldnld.apple.com/iOS6.1/CarrierBundles/091-0768.20130129.Nmrp6/Pioneer_LTE_US_iPhone.ipcc</string>
				<string>http://appldnld.apple.com/iOS6.1/CarrierBundles/091-1924.20130308.924rf/SRT_US_iPhone.ipcc</string>
				<string>http://appldnld.apple.com/iOS6.1/CarrierBundles/091-1929.20130308.F9Btg/Strata_LTE_US_iPhone.ipcc</string>
				<string>http://appldnld.apple.com/iOS6.1/CarrierBundles/091-1928.20130308.SpIag/Strata_US_iPhone.ipcc</string>
				<string>http://appldnld.apple.com/iOS6.1/CarrierBundles/091-0764.20130129.Cjetf/Verizon_LTE_US_iPhone.ipcc</string>
						<string>http://appldnld.apple.com/iOS6.1/CarrierBundles/091-0765.20130129.D3rdc/Verizon_LTE_US_iPad.ipcc</string>
 
I don't think you guys understand what is going on here. The T-Mobile version and the old iPhone 5 AT&T versions are the SAME hardware.

The only difference between the two models is that they have a different firmware builds. A firmware update can update the baseband which is what controls the radios and what frequencies can be offered.

When you hear about a new version breaking the unlocks that jailbreakers use, it is because Apple updated the baseband portion of the firmware. It is similar to an SMC firmware update on a mac. When Apple updates the baseband, it will often result in a longer upgrade process as the phone has to reboot several times. If a baseband update is not part of the update, jailbreakers can often get their unlock back.

It is possible that Apple will provide older iPhone 5 models with a baseband that can use AWS HSPA+ sometime in the future. Apple has already told the FCC that the hardware is the same. The only difference is the baseband firmware which can be updated and has been updated multiple times by previous updates to iOS.

When you officially unlock, Apple sends an update file that modifies the baseband slightly causing it to shift from a carrier locked baseband to a "factory unlocked" one. That unlock will remain in place even after future firmware updates.

You guys are under the mistaken impression that the cellular radio firmware is stored on a READ ONLY chip.
 
Links to carrier updates used by iTunes.


Code:
$  curl -s -L http://phobos.apple.com/version | grep -i ios6.1.*_us_
				<string>http://appldnld.apple.com/iOS6.1/CarrierBundles/091-1927.20130308.EDegc/Alltel_US_iPhone.ipcc</string>
				<string>http://appldnld.apple.com/iOS6.1/CarrierBundles/091-0766.20130129.To5tg/Bluegrass_LTE_US_iPhone.ipcc</string>
				<string>http://appldnld.apple.com/iOS6.1/CarrierBundles/091-0767.20130129.HbJsh/Cellcom_LTE_US_iPhone.ipcc</string>
				<string>http://appldnld.apple.com/iOS6.1/CarrierBundles/091-1926.20130308.341rf/Chariton_LTE_US_iPhone.ipcc</string>
				<string>http://appldnld.apple.com/iOS6.1/CarrierBundles/091-1925.20130308.62fiv/Chariton_US_iPhone.ipcc</string>
				<string>http://appldnld.apple.com/iOS6.1/CarrierBundles/091-0768.20130129.Nmrp6/Pioneer_LTE_US_iPhone.ipcc</string>
				<string>http://appldnld.apple.com/iOS6.1/CarrierBundles/091-1924.20130308.924rf/SRT_US_iPhone.ipcc</string>
				<string>http://appldnld.apple.com/iOS6.1/CarrierBundles/091-1929.20130308.F9Btg/Strata_LTE_US_iPhone.ipcc</string>
				<string>http://appldnld.apple.com/iOS6.1/CarrierBundles/091-1928.20130308.SpIag/Strata_US_iPhone.ipcc</string>
				<string>http://appldnld.apple.com/iOS6.1/CarrierBundles/091-0764.20130129.Cjetf/Verizon_LTE_US_iPhone.ipcc</string>
						<string>http://appldnld.apple.com/iOS6.1/CarrierBundles/091-0765.20130129.D3rdc/Verizon_LTE_US_iPad.ipcc</string>
Strange, that list doesn't seem to have any references of AT&T (or even Sprint) updates at all--you'd think there would be some at this point.

That aside, would this T-Mobile update show up there necessarily right away given that its the carrier that would be sending out a carrier update?

For example, Verizon is currently on carrier version 14.2 (at least for iPhone 5), yet in the whole list on that site (not just what's isolated by that pipe to grep) it doesn't seem like there's any mention of carrier version 14.2 associated with Verizon.
 
You guys are under the mistaken impression that the cellular radio firmware is stored on a READ ONLY chip.

And you are assuming the enabling of all the radios is possible with a firmware update. Just because the qualcomm chip supports updating firmware doesn't mean Apple can update the part that enables the radios. There is zero reason for Apple to have to update their entire supply chain with the new hardware if they could just update it in a iOS software update.

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Strange, that list doesn't seem to have any references of AT&T updates at all (you'd think there would be some).

Those are only updates that happened outside of a software update. The entire carrier bundle is included in each iOS release. Those files are only updates done outside a normal update cycle.
 
And you are assuming the enabling of all the radios is possible with a firmware update. Just because the qualcomm chip supports updating firmware doesn't mean Apple can update the part that enables the radios. There is zero reason for Apple to have to update their entire supply chain with the new hardware if they could just update it in a iOS software update.

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Those are only updates that happened outside of a software update. The entire carrier bundle is included in each iOS release. Those files are only updates done outside a normal update cycle.
So, the site should list just the carrier updates outside of the ones that are part of the last iOS release--basically any that happened after the last iOS release, separately from it?

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And you are assuming the enabling of all the radios is possible with a firmware update. Just because the qualcomm chip supports updating firmware doesn't mean Apple can update the part that enables the radios. There is zero reason for Apple to have to update their entire supply chain with the new hardware if they could just update it in a iOS software update.

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Those are only updates that happened outside of a software update. The entire carrier bundle is included in each iOS release. Those files are only updates done outside a normal update cycle.
It seems like the FCC documentation showed that the "new" AT&T/T-Mobile iPhone 5 has identical hardware to the "old" AT&T iPhone 5, so it doesn't seem like there's any new hardware.
 
It seems like the FCC documentation showed that the "new" AT&T/T-Mobile iPhone 5 has identical hardware to the "old" AT&T iPhone 5, so it doesn't seem like there's any new hardware.

It's not new hardware. However, the qualcomm chip has different firmware from the factory enabling the AWS band on HSPA.
 
So, the site should list just the carrier updates outside of the ones that are part of the last iOS release--basically any that happened after the last iOS release, separately from it?
Correct.
 
In that case, I'm curious why Verizon would be listed there since the current/last 14.2 carrier update was actually already part of iOS 6.1.3 (if not even 6.1.2 or possibly even earlier) and didn't come out separately from it.
 
And here I thought "radio chip firmware" was the definition of baseband.

You can think of it this way: what gets updated in an iOS release (sometimes) is like an SMC, BIOS or EFI update. Really low-level stuff, controls your computer, yadda yadda. The Qualcomm chip also has a ROM firmware composed of very small settings like which bands to enable, tuning, etc. This stuff is not updateable in a software update, so as many people have stated, Apple is refreshing its entire supply chain with the new model.

There will be no AWS HSPA on T-Mobile for anyone without buying the refreshed phone.

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In that case, I'm curious why Verizon would be listed there since the current/last 14.2 carrier update was actually already part of iOS 6.1.3 (if not even 6.1.2 or possibly even earlier) and didn't come out separately from it.

I don't know; why don't you diff the plists?

Keep in mind, the carrier updates are valid all the way back to iOS 6.1, so Verizon's updates may be in 6.1.3, but for users who choose not to update, the carrier update in this case is separately available.

AT&T and Sprint obviously haven't pushed any changes since 6.1 since the grep statement filters out all the older ipccs. Try without and you'll see how many there really are.
 
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http://www.tmonews.com/2013/04/carr...isual-voicemail-for-unlocked-iphone-5-models/

"Update: After spending the better half of my day trying to figure out when this update would roll out, T-Mobile has removed the support page leading us to wonder if it was posted prematurely. As we remarked below in the main text, today was noted earlier in the week as the available date so we really don’t know what happend or why. Hopefully the update will make a quick return and we’ll actually see it roll out. "

:(
 
from the SVP of T-Mobile Network and Operations….

Dear Mr. Baldwin,
The bundle will now be delayed until Monday.
Thanks,

Abdul Saad
SVP, Network Technology
▪T▪ ▪ ▪Mobile▪® USA
 
My wife's iPhone 3GS is still on the last version of iOS 5. I imagine I won't see this carrier update automatically, but will there be a way for me to manually install it so she can get Visual Voicemail? Or is my only option to bite the bullet and upgrade her to iOS 6? Not the end of the world, she just doesn't like it when stuff changes (her Mac's still on Snow Leopard).
I have a 3GS and installed iOS 6 on it awhile back. I was a bit hesitant, but I gotta say, it's run better with iOS 6 than it ever did with iOS 5. IMHO it was absolutely worth the update. I haven't gone past the original 6.0 though. Since it worked well, I didn't want to muck it up with the updates. I'm wondering since my 3GS is unlocked, if it would be worth it to try out T-Mobile for a month to test it out. I am considering buying the next iPhone 5S or 6 or whatever they call it and going with T-Mobile. Their plans are very appealing to me. I don't mind the upfront fee for the phone, it's the low monthly that I like. $100 a month on ATT or V is not going to cut it for me. $50 a month or even $60 for T-Mobile is much more reasonable.
 
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