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I still can't see Apple impacting on their market.

Watches from the luxury companies will last a lifetime.

Like iPhones and iPads, Apple's iWatch will be out of date after 12 months and will most likely be obsolete 2 years later.

Yes, but if an Rolex has a very addictive and very precise health features...i surely would buy instead of an standard one

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Health is important for all, no matter the age or our income
 
Yes, but if an Rolex has a very addictive and very precise health features...i surely would buy instead of an standard one

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Health is important for all, no matter the age or our income


Lol

I wouldn't.
Any digital components in Rolex I do not want.
 
I am sure you are like me back then in 2006-2007 that i wouldn't want any touchscreen phones
 
Yes, but if an Rolex has a very addictive and very precise health features...i surely would buy instead of an standard one

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Health is important for all, no matter the age or our income

We'll have to see as we still have no idea exactly what the iWatch will do, how much it will cost or even if it will actually exist.

If a company like Rolex were to offer those type of features I would expect they would have to offer a long term update service to maintain the lifespan of the watch.

The high second hand value of their watches helps them justify the initial cost and adding technology that renders the watch obsolete after only few years wouldn't be acceptable for a company who's products are expected to live longer than the person buying it.
 
We'll have to see as we still have no idea exactly what the iWatch will do, how much it will cost or even if it will actually exist.

If a company like Rolex were to offer those type of features I would expect they would have to offer a long term update service to maintain the lifespan of the watch.

The high second hand value of their watches helps them justify the initial cost and adding technology that renders the watch obsolete after only few years wouldn't be acceptable for a company who's products are expected to live longer than the person buying it.

Yea but time is changing, now everything is consumable, i remember how mercedes last for 1 mil km without any major problems, and now every car brand thinking about features and not durability

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what you post is correct about obsolete but this isn't the case with touchscreen vertu ?
 
You even don't know what iwatch look/build from/cost/and do and you already post your statement about it. Lets put it in this way, Vertu if they didn't come up with a touchscreen collection+Android ...was gone

With a basic understanding of business strategy, strategic marketing and knowledge of the watch market, you van very well predict what is going to happen.

If Apple will produce an iWatch, it will be aimed at relatively the same market as the samsung watch, but likely with additional health features. Current solid rumors certainly point in that direction. It will be priced above the prices of current android or other OS smart watches, because Apple's consumers have a higher willingness to pay. That means it will be priced anywhere between 200 and 700 dollars depending on features and price tiering.

This means it will not be close to being 10% in price of a true high end watch. The high end watch market is an extremely innovative one. It might not seem like that to people who equate innovation with electronics, but it is the case. Many manufacturers are now looking into ever more complicated movements to satisfy the enormous demands in quality and complexity of their consumers.

The high end watch manufacturers that do produce some electronic watches such as Breitling and Tag Heuer (when it was still high end) are suffering declining sales in those areas, simply because their consumers do not want to pay >2000 USD for a watch that needs battery replacements and will not last long enough to inherit to the kids.



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[/COLOR]What i mean to say is Apple changes the way you think about product even for the luxury companies

The high end market will remain the same in the sense that it will be purely automatic and that it will not incorporate electronic components. Their consumers will see it as a devaluation of the brand and will move elsewhere. You cannot equate what has happened in other markets to this market. The demographic that high end watches are aimed at is very conservative in terms of what the brand they spend thousands of dollars on represents. Rolex releasing a digital watch at Baselworld 2015 will see potential customers moving to IWC in a heartbeat. It doesn't work that way, successful Apple iWatch or no.
 
Translation: "We haven't changed our business plan in over a century since the same secret society families own this company since it started. Apple is doing things we do not understand and we are getting defensive instead of changing."
 
It's incredible how people don't understand how the mechanical watch market works....
Rolex with digital features lollllllll
 
Yea you live in the past...i don't say that will be a game changer for luxury watches this year or the next...but with all the smartwatch taking upon almost the market, you as aluxury company), you can't stay and make the same idea, because you must have some profit. Look at Vertu...in 2007 i bet you said..Vertu WILL never make a smartphone
 
Yes, but if an Rolex has a very addictive and very precise health features...i surely would buy instead of an standard one

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Health is important for all, no matter the age or our income

Yes, but a Rolex - or Jaeger-LeCoultre, Audemars Piguet, Patek etc - is a mechanical watch and not an electronic device. And it's this that appeals to people.

People buy these watches because of, amongst other reasons, they are pieces of wonderful engineering genius and have amazing histories.

I have no idea what the iWatch will bring to the table, but I seriously doubt that it will have any impact whatsoever on sales of Rolex Submariners or Omega Speedmasters, for instance. Even much cheaper mechanical watches appeal to many people and I think sales of these will still hold up well.

The iWatch will probably, being Apple, sell in unbelievable numbers. But for those interested in mechanical watches it will be in addition to, not replacing, Rolex, Omega, TAG, IWC and the rest.
 
Yes, but a Rolex - or Jaeger-LeCoultre, Audemars Piguet, Patek etc - is a mechanical watch and not an electronic device. And it's this that appeals to people.

People buy these watches because of, amongst other reasons, they are pieces of wonderful engineering genius and have amazing histories.

Mercedes was back 100 years ago a mechanical car...time changes thing, and if you remain behind you company will be bought by someone else or else
 
TAG Heuer Sales Director Joins Apple in Run-Up to iWatch Launch

Serban, what watches do you have?
Do you really understand the watch market?

Mechanical watches and electronic goods are not similar.
Watches are fashion accessories and status symbols.
Accessories don't become outdated because of electronic technology.
 
Serban, what watches do you have?
Do you really understand the watch market?

Mechanical watches and electronic goods are not similar.
Watches are fashion accessories and status symbols.
Accessories don't become outdated because of electronic technology.

Know i have only Longines watches , and for common dressing Boss watch
 
Mercedes was back 100 years ago a mechanical car...time changes thing, and if you remain behind you company will be bought by someone else or else

The concept of what you are saying is basically correct in business economics terms but doesn't apply to high end mechanical watches. If you think that it does than you don't understand how this segment of the market works.
 
People and living generation still buy like me for fashion and for look/durability, BUT our children and generation behind us will never buy those brands just for mechanical and time use...because until 2020 the iwatch and smartwatch will be more fashion and elegant than ever. Look at first iphone and now look at iphone 5 . It's a change in looks design and materials used and materials used for making the iphone
 
Patek Philippe, VC, breguet etc have been making watches for aristocrats and monarchs since 19th or even 18th century.

You really don't understand what you are talking about.
 
Please, save this forum, and we will talk about what rolex/longines etc will have in 2020 year. You can't keep that price for the same old idea of mechanical thinking when every kid, every adult will want something more

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Patek Philippe, VC, breguet etc have been making watches for aristocrats and monarchs since 19th or even 18th century.

You really don't understand what you are talking about.

You don't seem to understand how technology boom up since 2006-2007.
In 18th century was 1 watch made per week HANDCRAFTED i think..know Rolex makes 2.000 per day for example
 
You are being stupid. Do you think everything that Apple is going to do over the next 50 years is already finalised?

I think Apple must actually be very confident, hiring people even when great thinkers like you claim it makes them look not confident...

Look at who is calling me stupid. If the watch is getting released in September and they are still hiring, does that mean they do not have a sales plan / Personnel to implement the plan? Why would they hire somebody at a late stage unless it is to fire fight? No company with a good plan would hire somebody so high up so late..
 
Look at who is calling me stupid. If the watch is getting released in September and they are still hiring, does that mean they do not have a sales plan / Personnel to implement the plan? Why would they hire somebody at a late stage unless it is to fire fight? No company with a good plan would hire somebody so high up so late..

A great company is thinking for at least next 5 years so maybe they are hiring for the second generation iwatch
 
TAG Heuer Sales Director Joins Apple in Run-Up to iWatch Launch

Like I said, you wear a Hugo boss watch. You don't understand the watch market.
 
One can argue that setting the marketing and sales is one of the latter stages of the whole watch project. It is not hat Apple can approach jewellers before they have a product to present to them, or at least there is very little they could discuss with them ("Do you want to sell our watch? But we cannot show you how it looks, what materials it is based on, what features it will have, or what it will cost.").

So you are telling me that Apple does not take inputs from the sales manager before making the product but only after the entire thing is made? What is he .. A street seller? I think a smart way would be to get the guy, find out what the jewellers would like in a watch, see how best to implement it and then go to the Jewellers.

No wonder..
 
and you don't understand having a company and what must you do to don't loose too much profit because you can't adapt for the future time
 
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