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What I don't like at all is that, while this 16:9 aspect ratio is great for viewing videos, is that - if the rumours are correct - they will settle with a 1136 x 640 resolution. That's just short of HD - which means you will be wasting space if you are going to put 720p HD (or even 1080p) HD videos on your iPhone, but that you will losing picture quality when you are settling with DVD quality.

You don't lose picture quality (in terms of pixels) when you are watching something with lower resolution than the screen.

A 480p video blown up on a 100-foot diagonal screen will look fine if you are sitting at the right viewing distance.
 
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I agree but let me add a little polish to your statement.

Anyway you cut it Apple "must" increase the screen size, period!!! When you increase the 3.5 inch screen size the resolution must also change, that's a given. Why not release one standard resolution such as 1280x720p and come out with various sizes. I see no problem in releasing a 4 inch, a 4.5 inch and a 5 inch iPhone with all the same resolution of 1280x720p. The 4 incher would have the highest dpi and the 5 incher would have the largest screen while 4.5 inch would be a nice compromise between the two. If the 5 incher turns out to be a huge flop fine, Apple will sell more 4 inch models. I don't see the harm because the 5 inch is no less compatible than the 4 inch model.

Like you said look at Samsung.

Galaxy Nexus = 4.65 inch at 1280x720
Galaxy S3 = 4.8 inch at 1280x720
Galaxy Note = 5.3 inch at 1280x800

I'm not asking for different processors between the sizes I listed. Each iPhone could look exactly the same for all I care. The only difference will be the screen size and battery. And keeping the 640 part of the resolution is a mistake if your going to give apps black bars or stretch them out in the first place. If your going to crack eggs don't leave shells in the cake batter.

Apple has such a great opportunity to steal market share from Android. And it's a shame that people will buy this product only because it has an Apple logo on it and their so vested in the ecosystem. Not because the product is truly without a doubt kick ass. If the past is any indication we will see the same screen size for the next 3 to 5 years. Meanwhile Android OEM's have already displayed 1920x1080p 5 inch panels. 5 inch will be the new standard in about a years time and Apple will be stuck at 4 inches loosing market share because their too stubborn to do anything about. Oh, and what did suing HTC accomplish? Absolutely nothing.

Great point, although I think 2 models would be fine. Also, if they can letterbox legacy apps with black bars at the top and bottom with the long form factor then there's nothing stopping them from having legacy apps float in the middle at the old resolution just like they did on the iPad.
 
I was originally one of the ones who didn't really care if the screen got bigger. (I still am one) But... If the screen were to get bigger, getting taller seems pointless. What could you really do more of with a taller screen? I thought the whole point of going bigger was to go wider and taller, making the whole experience of the iOS seem bigger and better. Not just adding a few CM on the top and seeing more of a webpage but still having to zoom all the way in because of the lack of width...

In my honest opinion, I might be sticking with my iPhone 4 if this turns out to be the next iPhone. I just don't see this being an Apple worthy product/design. They're known for their breathtaking designs and this just seems ugly...
 
Oh you blind followers are hilarious. Now that your beloved iphone is going 16x9 like other Android phones, you find it just awesome. This is exactly why Apple trail the industry leaders (Samsung, HTC). They know they have most of their customers in their back pocket. Apple says Jump, and the likes of you not only jump with all your might, but you also hand over your money and pay the big guy for telling you to jump. Grow some ballz and grab a brain, your very own brain, all for yourself. Seriously you people flip flop more than Romney. If you hated the same aspect ratio and height on Android phones, you sure as hellz better hate it on the iPhone. And you wonder why sheep get ridiculed the world over. Android users will switch brands in a heart beat if their brand of CHOICE puts out something they just don't like. That's the great thing about CHOICE. It breeds a sheep free ecosystem.
 
Looks fake to me.

I find it hard enough to believe they would change the aspect ratio...although maybe they would. However the positioning of the speaker grill and camera module look far too off for this to be legit. If they make the screen larger, they're still going to put a lot of effort into ensuring the device isn't any larger than it needs to be. Stacking the speaker grill and the camera module like that seriously restricts the ability to give the device a smaller profile. They've had room in the previous devices to put them side by side, so why would they change that now?
 
My guess is no White Bezel.

The bars on the sides of Apps not optimized for the that screen will just blend into the Black Bezel.
 
Android is resolution independent. The layout engine was designed from the beginning to accept any resolution and scale appropriately (based on the resolution and the size of the screen itself). iOS on the other hand was designed for only one and later they had to add others. Unfortunately that means every resolution needs its own layout for apps and the OS.

Heres some screenshots I just took with the android sdk.
The one on the left is a device thats resolution is 480x800 and it has nexus onscreen buttons. The one of the right is odd as I wanted to make it a resolution that doesn't actually exist on the device to prove how sophisticated the layout system is. Its 658x958. Both have lcd density set to 240. So android treats the one on the left as around a 3.9 inch screen and the one on the right is considered around a 4.85 inch screen. I can also increase that density to make it think that same resolution is on a 4 inch and it will scale the interface to fit that size screen. Also notice how it automatically adds in app menu buttons when it detects that the device doesn't have a dedicated menu button and uses software buttons instead.

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Thank you for explaining. :)

Now, I haven't programmed for iOS or Android, but I am a web designer and developer and I have a fairly intermediate programming knowledge outside of HTML. So my analysis is from the viewpoint of a prospective developer for mobile devices, let's say.

My thoughts:

While Android is designed to accommodate a variety of screen sizes, it can't be simply a matter of "program once, deploy to all", can it?

Let's take Flipboard for example. Indeed it's not your typical app layout, though that shouldn't matter at all. But they've only released Flipboard for Android on the Galaxy S III exactly because of the differences in screen sizes. They're working on one for "the rest of Android phones" but that won't be out for months. Sounds like a bit of a pain, development wise. The beta is out now, I believe.

In the case of iOS, the Flipboard team would have to make only these slightly different versions:

Version 1: Non-Retina iPhone/iPod
Version 1a: Retina iPhone/iPod
Version 2: Non-Retina iPad
Version 2a: Retina iPad
Version 3: 16:9 iPhone/iPod

I loosely count the Retina displays as a different display, because it's just a doubling of graphical resolution. Super easy to do.

By my count there are 3 screen shapes to deal with here.

When it comes to a mobile device, I think I would find it more appealing to program for specifics, instead of having the interface be so flexible. Though I do appreciate the benefits of something that adapts, I think because every pixel counts on small screens, I'd rather tailor it. And in the case of Flipboard, I would venture a prediction and say that the "dynamic" version won't look as fitted as the iOS or Galaxy SIII versions.

Of course, everything I'm saying is based entirely on what I've read and observed so far. So if proven wrong, that would be a nice surprise.

What is your experience on Android in terms of testing your apps on different sizes? What kind of differences do you see in your apps, if any, that you didn't predict/program for, etc? Or does it show up great on all of them?
 
Oh you blind followers are hilarious. Now that your beloved iphone is going 16x9 like other Android phones, you find it just awesome. This is exactly why Apple trail the industry leaders (Samsung, HTC). They know they have most of their customers in their back pocket. Apple says Jump, and the likes of you not only jump with all your might, but you also hand over your money and pay the big guy for telling you to jump. Grow some ballz and grab a brain, your very own brain, all for yourself. Seriously you people flip flop more than Romney. If you hated the same aspect ratio and height on Android phones, you sure as hellz better hate it on the iPhone. And you wonder why sheep get ridiculed the world over. Android users will switch brands in a heart beat if their brand of CHOICE puts out something they just don't like. That's the great thing about CHOICE. It breeds a sheep free ecosystem.

Yes, because the screen ratio was the only thing to dislike about Android.
:rolleyes:
 
Thank you for explaining. :)

Now, I haven't programmed for iOS or Android, but I am a web designer and developer and I have a fairly intermediate programming knowledge outside of HTML. So my analysis is from the viewpoint of a prospective developer for mobile devices, let's say.

My thoughts:

While Android is designed to accommodate a variety of screen sizes, it can't be simply a matter of "program once, deploy to all", can it?

Let's take Flipboard for example. Indeed it's not your typical app layout, though that shouldn't matter at all. But they've only released Flipboard for Android on the Galaxy S III exactly because of the differences in screen sizes. They're working on one for "the rest of Android phones" but that won't be out for months. Sounds like a bit of a pain, development wise. The beta is out now, I believe.

In the case of iOS, the Flipboard team would have to make only these slightly different versions:

Version 1: Non-Retina iPhone/iPod
Version 1a: Retina iPhone/iPod
Version 2: Non-Retina iPad
Version 2a: Retina iPad
Version 3: 16:9 iPhone/iPod

I loosely count the Retina displays as a different display, because it's just a doubling of graphical resolution. Super easy to do.

By my count there are 3 screen shapes to deal with here.

When it comes to a mobile device, I think I would find it more appealing to program for specifics, instead of having the interface be so flexible. Though I do appreciate the benefits of something that adapts, I think because every pixel counts on small screens, I'd rather tailor it. And in the case of Flipboard, I would venture a prediction and say that the "dynamic" version won't look as fitted as the iOS or Galaxy SIII versions.

Of course, everything I'm saying is based entirely on what I've read and observed so far. So if proven wrong, that would be a nice surprise.

What is your experience on Android in terms of testing your apps on different sizes? What kind of differences do you see in your apps, if any, that you didn't predict/program for, etc? Or does it show up great on all of them?

Flipboard works on other android phones. Its just exclusive to the siii right now. You can sideload it onto other phones if you want. The layout system in android was designed to be independent of the hardware. Also the actual layout of the app is not determined by the resolution but by its lcd density setting and the resolution combined. Two phones with the same dimensions but different resolution will arrange the app in the same way just using more pixels on the denser screen.

Edit: Just tried flipboard on both my Galaxy nexus (1280x720 with oncreen buttons) and old droid incredible (480x800). Rendered perfectly on both.
 
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I agree but let me add a little polish to your statement.

Anyway you cut it Apple "must" increase the screen size, period!!!
...
I see no problem in releasing a 4 inch, a 4.5 inch and a 5 inch iPhone with all the same resolution of 1280x720p.
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Apple has such a great opportunity to steal market share from Android. And it's a shame that people will buy this product only because it has an Apple logo on it and their so vested in the ecosystem.

I thought they might address the large phone/small tablet market by making the iPod Touch twice as big. However most signs reportedly point toward them releasing a smaller iPad instead of a larger iPhone/iPod Touch.

From the look of it, Apple decided to keep its pocket devices - iPhone and iPod Touch - as small as they are and keep the app compatibility. Which explains why the new iPhone retains the same width and only marginally increased height. They're probably betting if people really want that large screen, they'll go for the iPad Mini with the rumored 7.85" screen and small bezel. We'll see if that works out for them.
 
Is there any chance that maybe in iOS 6 there will be some new UI that will use this extra screen space, not just another row of icons? Maybe some new menu thats always displayed, then view area for most apps can remain the same.

Just a thought, maybe not :p
 
I'll be getting a 4S if this is The New iPhone...I don't need a bigger, longer, probably heavier, device to carry around.
 
Landscape mode is going to be even more useless for anything but video.

Honestly would have rather them kept it at 3.5". At least the back button is reachable one-handed with your thumb at that size.
 
Does it not bother anyone that all this is, is a stretched 4S with different back plate?? are u kidding me? Don't get me wrong, I love the current form factor, but it's getting old.

All these perfectly fitting rumors, one after the other, are too...perfect. It's just way out of character. This has never happened before. And quite frankly, I don't buy it one bit. This is NO WAY the new iPhone.

Look for real rumors to start popping up in about 2 months. Rumors that show something completely different then what we have been seeing over the past few days. Those are the rumors I'll be looking for.

This is my thought exactly. These rumors seem too perfect, manufactured. Way too much stuff coming all at once not to be deliberate. A company as secretive as Apple, who's CEO just announced they were going to be doubling down on their secrecy doesn't let this much slip.

I have a feeling someone at Apple is having a good laugh releasing random info and watching us banter on about it.
 
If this is true, I am getting a Nokia MS phone, or MAYBE a android (highly unlikely though)

I have the iPhone 4 now and been holding out for the iphone 5, but if it is just a taller iphone 4S+ then cook can lick my salty b***s.
 
Feels like a controlled leak to me. Apple's still developing the iPhone and making decisions about where to go with it, so now i feel like they're considering the "taller iPhone" idea and want to gauge customer feedback. Well, now they have it!

For the most part, i see a taller screen pointless as the reason some of us would like a larger screen is to see stuff bigger, not just more stuff. BIGGER. I don't care to see an extra row of icons or text. That doesn't help us when the text in the browser doesn't rewrap and is still tiny as hell. Make the overall screen bigger + add rewrap to the browser and you've got a solid update
 
Of all the pieces, this seems like the easiest one to fake, don't you think? I don't particularly like it longer.
 
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