Me too - I have a new 6-series and an Apple TV 4K. It’s clear the Apple TV is better then Roku but it’s nice having both too.
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TCL on AirPlay-2 Enabled TVs: 'We Are Currently Committed to Roku'
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I would rather use a connected box than under performing built in apps.
Most consumers care about price. If a picture is good enough, and most are, then the cheapest set will do; so there is no incentive for manufacturers to focus on privacy, especially since it would cost them money.
Well, I looked at multiple. The viewing angles just aren't right on that VA display on the TCL. Colors looked wack on all of them. I checked out some of the settings too. I think the consensus is that Samsung displays (on the same class of TV) are generally better.
Fords,GM,Dodge are all cheap stuff too. They might look good when new but are cheap and don’t last.
Not to de-rail the thread, but WOW. I can't believe some people still have this perception of Hyundai!! (I hear the same about Kia).
Do some research, talk to people who know cars, or read articles written by professional auto journalists. Hyundai makes fantastic cars, with great reliability. They are a behemoth of a company, manufacturing everything from cars, to industrial machinery, to trucks, buses, etc. They know how to build machines.
I've bought 3, including a 2019 Tucson for my wife just last week, and the most recent Genesis right before it spun off to its own luxury brand, now sold as the G80.) I leased it. I'm the type of person who gets tired of things easily and likes change, always wanting to try something new. Now the lease is almost up and I'm seriously considering getting the same car again, 2019 model year,- something I would normally never do. Its THAT good!
And yes, I've driven all the other cars, including MB, BMW, Audi (was very closely looking at the A4 before buying the Genesis, but the Audi lacked features my Genesis had for less money, and a much better warranty as WELL AS reliability). The auto industry is changing. Gone are the days when in order to get a nice luxurious car with all the latest options, and high quality interiors you had to look to European models. There's just less and less reason to buy those premium brands anymore.
Have you driven a Hyundai? They have some nice vehicles these days; as an employee of another auto OEM, they kinda scare me as to how well they have jumped up in quality, reliability, and overall product.
You probably do speak for most Apple customers (including me) but not the majority of streaming TV viewers. People expect cheap 4K and do not want to pay additional money for setup boxes that add little additional value for them. It appears that overnight, Apple has turned off their hardware valve and opened up their services valve to full stream ahead. (pun intended)
Your anecdote reminds me of my father a little. He has driven and owned MB most of his life (he still owns a $110,000 MB but never drives it) but every since he tried my Prius a decade ago, he's only bought Toyota vehicles.
You made the wrong call, actually. Samsung does make some good TVs, but the stuff they make in TCL's price range is trash. (Check Rtings, Wirecutter, et cetera for the numbers) Low picture quality, bad HDR implementation (i.e. it can receive HDR signal but not actually reproduce it, poor software support, and so on.
I have one right now but having built in airplay sounds much better (which is 99% of what I use my AppleTV for, plus I have the 4th Gen one which only does 1080p, so i would need to add the cost of a new AppleTV to my purchase)
I don’t know if you’re looking for suggestions on that one... but here goes...
Vizio would be what you want then. SmartCast is their branding but it’s literally ChromeCast.
researched it for 3 weeks before pulling the trigger. Had my sights set on the TCL. I really did. I had it in my cart on Amazon and everything. Went to BBY, and saw TCL quality vs Samsung. Thought it was a fluke. Messed with settings. Went to the 6 series TCL just to be sure. Even that was not nearly as good. Dunno. I mean, in a vacuum, I'm sure TCL looks good. But next to a vibrant and clear (and not patchy) Samsung display, it looks bad.
I used to work for a dealer who supplied body shops with Hyundai parts. Either they make you fail a driving test before you can buy one, or they are made out of cotton candy. I used to drop off enough parts to build an entire car.
Hyundai has really stepped up the past few years so that's a pretty bad example. Their cars have alot of bang for the buck.
I can see the reason why their commitment with Roku because of Roku OS that made their smartTV great. Samsung, LG and other their TV's are awesome better picture but their software are horrible laggy and slow, although lately has been improved but still no match to Roku OS. Obviously tvOS is exclusive to Apple but I'm glad more SmartTV's are supporting Airplay 2 the closest AppleTV experience for a non-Apple product.
Hyundai's alright for an appliance. It's no head-turner though, much like a TCL.
I'm pretty sure the features were not comparable. Basically you were comparing apples to oranges.
Public perception takes a very long time to change, once established.
Very comparable. Specs were very similar. Both VA panels. Same price, though the Samsung was 50" and TCL 55" (but I checked TCL's 49/50 inch model too). Colors looked worse on TCL and the viewing angle on the TCL was horrendous. Samsung's wasn't heaps better but it was noticeably so. They're the same class of TV. Both around the 400$ mark.