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Teardown of 13-inch MacBook Pro With Touch Bar Reveals 'Cosmetic' Speaker Grilles [Updated]
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Hahahaha so Apple has fake speaker grills and poorly positioned speakers because of people who spill drinks into their computers... I suppose the keyboard and touch bar and exhaust vents are waterproof also then? What a load of b......
It would annoy me to no end having cosmetic "speaker" holes staring at me every time I use it. Unacceptable, what were they thinking. It is like sports cars that generate artificial engine rumble. Visual elements that convey nonexistent function are terrible design.
That's why I waited till the Mac II, which allowed for lots of customization, so you could actually get some work done.
They are open questions seeking valid responses, not ad-hominems. And we aren't friends.
I have replaced EVERY replaceable component in EVERY Mac I have owned since 1990, and they have all performed significantly better at a lower cost than Apple's stock offerings.
Non replaceable components means early obsolescence.
But feel free to keep listening to those faux speaker grilles.
Wow!
I feel sorry for you. The only Apple parts I have replaced over the years are these:
- iPhone screens (Apple replaced not aftermarket)
- Added 2012 i7 Quad Mac Mini (still using older i5 Mini with original components).
- Memory upgraded in Mac Mini.
- Added SSD to Mac Mini i7 Quad Core.
- Replaced 2011 11" with 2014 11" MBA.
- Replaced 2014 11" MBA with 2015 12" rMB.
- Replacing 2015 12" rMB with 2016 13" MBP 2.9/512
- In the day hated Power PC Mac (Motorola) and replaced with Windows PC.
Wish I could say the same about my Windows PC days. If I saved all the parts and ugrades of Windows PCs from the day it would fill a small room. Part of the reason was the rapid advancement that was going on in hardware technology.
Do you really listen to music via any laptop speakers? So sad if the answer is yes.
ok, you pointed me to what predictive modelling is, but you're not answering my question, how can you tell that the 2016 model will have a lower failure rate than the 2015 model? you simply don't know, so stop trolling.
and, just for fun, pointing to a paper about computers (mainframes) from 1982 doesn't tell much about the reliability of today's laptops.
Really? I assume you've crunched the numbers then, which you've obtained from a reliable source other than your rear end. I'm all ears, erh.. eyes.
No trolling, you're just another complainer about the new product. My point is Apple just didn't grab parts off the shelf and assmebled a computer from them. This stuff is engineered and tested at individual component levels, using statistical modeling, to provided a superior and reliable end product for we users (did you look at the design patent I posted earlier for the fans).
Can I personaly know it will last longer and the mean time between failure will be less than in the past? Well I didn't design and egineer the device, but I know this, Apple did and that is why we pay a premium for their products. They work and I expect the mean failure time to be superior to older models.
You might consider looking in the preverbial mirror when you throw out the "trolling" monicker. My post consitently defend and like Apple products, design and engineering. You sir (or madam) came here to do otherwise.
Oh and pointing to a paper from 1982 indicates the predictive modeling is not something new and depending on when (if) you earned your engineering status you should have known about such modeling. Shame on you!
Me, too. The ability to do so adds life to a machine. Granted, not all possible replacements yield drastic changes like going from 8GB to 16GB or replacing a HDD with a SSD, the most drastic improvement I've ever encountered. With the current models, the ability to go to 32GB and/or replacing the SSD with an even faster one in a couple years would be appreciated, even if going to 32GB meant a hit to battery life under Skylake.
But I get what Apple is trying to do, and even appreciate some of it. Since I carry my laptop pretty much everywhere I go, including to work and walking a ways, I very much appreciate the form factor. For me, the new machine is more powerful and faster for the work I do. For now, weighing – pun intended – the pros and cons, the pros – pun not intended – win out for me so I ordered a 15" and very much looking forward to it. As ever, to each his own.
As for the speaker grills, there are tweeters under there. Let's move on to the next new gripe!
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I rarely use the speakers.
If I want to listen to music or audio from my MB I plug in my earbuds or stream to a really good Bluetooth speaker. And when I'm in a public place working, no one wants to hear any audio from my devices.
Why would you feel sorry for me? I always got exactly what I wanted, whether Apple sanctioned it or not.
I feel sorry for you, settling for Apple's rip-off prices and lackluster performance.
Replacing a computer with another computer, really doesn't count, since Apple just ripped you off, again! At least you put memory and an SSD into your Minis, I gather you had a reason?
I don't know why anybody would listen to laptop speakers for anything other than alerts, but I also don't know why anybody would put false speaker grilles in a laptop.
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It could be cool to fill those holes with bright red paint.Someone should photoshop a Macbook without those speaker grills, so we can judge ourselves if it looks better with or without
It would destroy resale value, but it would be a cool mod.
17 Pages in and people are still complaining about fake speaker grills even though its been CONFIRMED multiple times they are real and functional. C'mon guys let's have level headed conversations here with some actual thought put into them.
I feel you, I have a 2010 mbp even though I haven't done much in termina of repairing.. battery, ssd, ram, but I guess that's acceptable for 6 years of extreme heavy use... so much that I actually broke some keys (not because I dropped it or anything,just out of wear).
And I have been waiting patiently for this mbp, I had my eyes on the expensive 15 inch model, before discovering that the new 13 touchbar actually costs as much as the old 15..
But now I'm seriously considering whether or not I want to change it--but I'm kinda forced to.
I may be planning on buying either the sans touchbar and sell it next year or in a couple of years when a decent model (hopefully) comes out... or the 13 w/ touch bar but still selling it in 12-18 months, maybe at 70-75% of the original price
Regular tools don't cut it. They need to be built into the bodies of the Apple Geniuses. Come 2017, we'll be welcomed into the Apple store by cyborgs,
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My policy is, if there's something wrong with the machine then I just get a new one. When the old one comes back, I'll see if I resell it or keep it for other purposes.
If you make sure you've got enough of a savings for this kind of emergency, life becomes a lot easier.
I would say 90% of the people can't shell out 2000K+ just because a new laptop, still under warranty, breaks down
At the end of the day the speakers on these new MBP's sound so much better then anything else on the market so i don't see the problem here.