Why does it need to be on the screen? It can easily be on the actual body angled up near the function keys
Face ID is a different technology that provides a whole other level of security. Basically Windows Hello is 2D and Face ID is 3D. Arguably many people would prefer to have face recognition even with less secure tech, but this is the difference.What? Windows Hello, which is similar to faceid has been around for years.
The thinnest device with Face ID is 11 inch iPad Pro, which is 5,9 mm. Current 16 inch MacBook Pro screen is much thinner.This article doesn’t make sense to me. Isn’t FaceID technology on an iPhone pretty thin? The iPhone certainly sends thin enough to be used as a laptop screen, no?
Face ID is a different technology that provides a whole other level of security. Basically Windows Hello is 2D and Face ID is 3D. Arguably many people would prefer to have face recognition even with less secure tech, but this is the difference. The patents would also be different.I wonder whether Apple doesn't implement FaceID because of patents? Afterall, the technology is already present on Windows laptop for 6 years or so.
why not?Why? Touch ID is much smarter on a mac then face ID. Always for biometrics you need to touch or press something to confirm, your hand is already on the keyboard so you just tap the touch id module. If you use face ID you still have to tap to confirm so whats the point?
groan...a member of the 'smaller is better' crowd. if a bigger macbook is a problem, i suggest visiting the gym more often.I don't think I want my display to be thicker just for faceID or a smaller notch. TouchID is good enough.
I heard some time ago that MS and Apple have a patent sharing agreement, where they can share others patents but cannot implement identical features for 7 years. I have no idea how true that is, since I read it in a comment on this forum. However, if it's true and given Windows Hello is 6 years old, I would expect that Apple gets it into the M2 laptops.I wonder whether Apple doesn't implement FaceID because of patents? Afterall, the technology is already present on Windows laptop for 6 years or so.
Are you a hardware engineer or been part of a design team for this type of technology? How do you know it could ‘easily’ implemented on the actual body?Why does it need to be on the screen? It can easily be on the actual body angled up near the function keys
Because I explained why not. You want to make a MacBook thicker to add the faceID array that would require you to tap something anyways, meaning it solves NOTHING and makes NOTHING easier.why not?
groan...a member of the 'smaller is better' crowd. if a bigger macbook is a problem, i suggest visiting the gym more often.
I can’t figure out why it appears you’re so angry over a rumor.You want to make a MacBook thicker to add the faceID array that would require you to tap something anyways, meaning it solves NOTHING and makes NOTHING easier.
They did this with the new MacBook Pro models, it's why we have a 1080p camera now.then...then make the screen thicker?
I think for normal authentications FaceID would be a perfect solution, and far superior to TouchID in every way (as it is on mobile devices right now). But you definitely raise a good point on the payment / purchase authentications, I imagine it'll require a click to confirm, then FaceID - but it would still be far quicker than typing your password again.Why? Touch ID is much smarter on a mac then face ID. Always for biometrics you need to touch or press something to confirm, your hand is already on the keyboard so you just tap the touch id module. If you use face ID you still have to tap to confirm so whats the point?
Yes, if you want a laptop where the lid is as thick as the thinnest iPhone with face ID, The technology already exists.This article doesn’t make sense to me. Isn’t FaceID technology on an iPhone pretty thin? The iPhone certainly sends thin enough to be used as a laptop screen, no?
iPhones are about 3-4x thicker than the MacBook's screen assembly thickness. Apple could potentially re-locate the FaceID assembly to be part of the screen hinge, but I don't think it would be up to Apple's high aesthetic standards!This article doesn’t make sense to me. Isn’t FaceID technology on an iPhone pretty thin? The iPhone certainly sends thin enough to be used as a laptop screen, no?
Apple do absolutely use a lot of off-the-shelf components, and FaceID will be comprised of these parts too. The proprietary parts of FaceID are the matter of how the components work together (as part of an assembly), and then the software / neural networks that enable the whole thing to work. The camera, illuminator and projectors will more than likely be off-the-shelf.I’m confused, faceID didn’t exist at all until apple designed and made it for iPhones.
So surely it’s logical to say it doesn’t exist for macs until apple goes ahead and designs and makes it for macs?
Gurman seems to suggest apple are using off the shelf bits to build these laptops when we know they don’t.
Aesthetics. It would look shoehorned in or an afterthought.Why does it need to be on the screen? It can easily be on the actual body angled up near the function keys
LOL... no...Why does it need to be on the screen? It can easily be on the actual body angled up near the function keys
In addition to the aesthetics you mention, moving parts is usually a reliability weak point, which is why Apple (and other electronics makers) try to minimize them.Couldn't they have the sensors and camera 'sticking out' from the screen, and then for when the screen closes have some osrt of cut out where they slot into? This would not only allow face ID but also allow for far better quality webcams surely?
Is the only reason not to do this because of aesthetics, or would there be other drawbacks?
This is probably the actual reason.. yet notch?Aesthetics. It would look shoehorned in or an afterthought.
This is a great point that a lot of people here don't seem to realize.Why? Touch ID is much smarter on a mac then face ID. Always for biometrics you need to touch or press something to confirm, your hand is already on the keyboard so you just tap the touch id module. If you use face ID you still have to tap to confirm so whats the point?
AmenI'm really glad some of you aren't apple designers. 7mm MacBook lids and camera bulges. Yuck.