Going to assume that you've never actually used FaceID, so won't bother to continue this conversation.
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Technology to Embed Face ID into MacBook Displays 'Doesn't Exist,' Says Gurman
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We all know that FaceId as we know it will stop existing with the new glasses that everyone will wear instead of using laptop/phone. I don't blame them for using TouchId until the transition to wearable is completed.
Size, most likely, has nothing to do with Face ID or future models. As explained several times before, the camera and sensors itself require this space. The notch is smaller on the iPhones because there is also the z-axis space in iPhones and iPads to add components required for the camera.
No but my twins have, and returned their iPhones because of it. You a twin by any chance? I'm going with a no.Going to assume that you've never actually used FaceID, so won't bother to continue this conversation.
You FaceID lovers can thumbs-down and down-vote my original comment til you're blue in the face...FaceID is not fit for purpose when it can't tell the difference between the faces of identical twins, which it can't.
TouchID worked fine and wasn't broken.
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Not a fan of FaceID. Sure, it works well enough in most circumstances, but is a damn nuisance in certain other times, such as when you don't want to bring the phone to your face -- think meetings, cinema, bored of listening to someone, or when you're asleep and do not want to turn over straighten up and look straight into the phone's eyes. Oh, and when you're outside covered in warm clothes and the damn Siri won't select the right podcast/track/whatever "please unlock your phone" arrrrrrrrggggghhhhhh.
For that, touch ID is so much better.
Oh and in the office I don't look at the MacBook's screen as it's only for secondary stuff. Wife doesn't even have her MBP open, connecting it to the external Thunderbolt Cinema Display.
FaceID is really bad for the office IMHO. Again, touch ID is great.
For that, touch ID is so much better.
Oh and in the office I don't look at the MacBook's screen as it's only for secondary stuff. Wife doesn't even have her MBP open, connecting it to the external Thunderbolt Cinema Display.
FaceID is really bad for the office IMHO. Again, touch ID is great.
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Sure, so they can make the laptop lid just a little bit thicker and can make it thinner as the technology improves.
on macbooks is not about the length and how many sensors, but how thick the dot projector and flood illuminator must be
Also the dot projector needs to be more powerful as your face is further away from the screen than on an iPhone.
And the flood illuminator (IR flash). Although, I think these issues are solved on the iPad as I can get pretty good range on it.
Windows Hello also uses (requires) a camera with an IR sensor, so I wouldn't say it's entirely different than Face ID. A regular run-of-the-mill web cam does not work for Windows Hello.
I'm pretty sure we moved beyond >5mm thick laptop displays in 2005. A 8mm thick screen assembly would be obscene in 2022, it would be nearly 1/2 the entire thickness of previous generation MacBook Pro.
I'd rather lose FaceID than have to carry around a heavier MacBook just to accommodate that one feature. Nuts.
No. If you check out the ifixit review there’s a pic that shows that FaceID part is twice as thick as the new MacBook’s lids.
This is only for reliable functionality in darker environments, and not as a security layer. FaceID uses a depth map from a dot projector and flood illuminator to build a 3D "model" of your face. Windows Hello does no such thing, and it's the reason why it is disabled in almost all enterprise / secure environments.
I think Apple is more than capable of bringing face ID to any device it wants. Just not inside of the screen. They would have to punch a hole in the screen or you know, put it in the same place above the screen like they have for so many years. The implementation of this feature must be waiting for something else. Adding face id to a mac has been more than possible since the first iPhone with face ID came out.
But Apple doesn't really add new equipment like this in already existing machines. They usually wait until a total redesign thereby giving you one more reason to ditch your currently working system for one that has that wiz bang new feature only available on the new stuff. And even then, they could just implement it in newer more expensive models yet to be released as some sort of value added thing and then wait two years to make it standard equipment on every mac.
But Apple doesn't really add new equipment like this in already existing machines. They usually wait until a total redesign thereby giving you one more reason to ditch your currently working system for one that has that wiz bang new feature only available on the new stuff. And even then, they could just implement it in newer more expensive models yet to be released as some sort of value added thing and then wait two years to make it standard equipment on every mac.
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Angled up would turn it into NoseID or NostrilID
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Apple is taking baby steps. I honestly think Touch ID on a MacBook Pro is much more efficient and realiable.
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Perhaps Apple could add Face ID in by leaving the camera where it is but putting the rest of the Face ID tech (dot projector, infrared camera, etc.) in the bottom bezel or near the keyboard? There would probably be more space to fit it there.
So obsessed on that “tec”, when finger print reader is totally adequate and convenient for 99.9999% of Mac users. Want more security?, use a longer password!. We are using passwords on our iPhones since 2 years ago because of the face masks!!!
What is safer: finger print reader or partial face scan with a face mask?. We have heard many stories of child’s unlocking their parents phones, but none with Touch ID, not even twins! (Outside labs conditions).
Why so much interest in Faceid for everything?.
Even the Apple Watch could have a reasonable finger print reader, but never Face ID.
What is safer: finger print reader or partial face scan with a face mask?. We have heard many stories of child’s unlocking their parents phones, but none with Touch ID, not even twins! (Outside labs conditions).
Why so much interest in Faceid for everything?.
Even the Apple Watch could have a reasonable finger print reader, but never Face ID.
Apple has made it very clear that the technology doesn't work with identical twins... they're identical, it's kind of a given. For the vast majority of the population, FaceID is far more convenient and transparent to use, and it offers a higher level of security (1/1m chance of a false positive vs 1/50,000 for TouchID).
If you want an iPhone with TouchID, you can still buy the highly capable iPhone SE 2 that uses a different form of bioauthentication. Or, you could use a passcode and not bother with FaceID.
Just because a technology isn't suitable for everyone shouldn't mean that everyone should be deprived of its benefits.
Whilst we may not be privilaged to know everything that goes on in the tech world, there are companies out there developing electronic devices such as camera's, radio's, listening devices that are the size of an ant and in some cases even smaller so the electronics exist therefore with that regards Apple is wrong in say the technology does not exist, it does. In my opinion it means there is another reason why Apple is not want to develop faceid for macs and it has absolutly nothing to do with lack of technology. Apple obviously do not want it's customers to know the real reason.