Teen iPhone Ownership Continues to Soar

[I7guy]

I'm satisfied with my SUV, but when I see an AM DBX or MB G63 it's evident there are better options.

It may be objectively faster but not subjectively better.

Apple Intelligence may work well for you, but that doesn't mean there are better, more capable options.

But maybe not subjectively better.

Even Apple admitted that needs to improve.

Humankind needs to improve, so the point?

But if you are happy with Apple Intelligence, even though Apple are not happy with it, good for you!

Even ChatGPT is improving, open ai must not be happy with it.

 

[DanVM]

I’m looking for the intersection of sound quality and practicality. AirPods fit the bill. For me. Given the popularity I’d say Apple hit the nail on head.

I have AirPods Pro, and while I like them, I had many issues with them. And based in the articles and forums, I'm not the only one. Maybe the issues were solved in AP Pro Gen 2.

AirPlay 1. Spotify connect 0.

Airplay 2 drains my phone, and stops playing when phone goes off. Spotify Connect connects the device to the service, so it doesn't drains my phone, neither stops playing when it's off.

AirPlay 1 Spotify 1

This makes no sense. The point of AirPlay 2 is a protocol where you don’t need an app on the other end. Spotify connect only works with Spotify. AirPlay 2 works with everything including video streams. And who really cares if a phone has to be plugged in? It’s a niche case you’re making into a showstopper requirement.

Why would Spotify do video streams when they are a music service? And I didn't say having the phone connected is a showstopper. I just pointed out Spotify Connect does a better job by transferring the stream from the smartphone to the device, compared to the AirPlay 2, that depends on the stream from the iPhone.

Spotify Connect Basics | Spotify for Developers

developer.spotify.com

Don’t have Spotify. Don’t need it. To me Apple music is better.

If you like android and Spotify better who am I to argue otherwise. Just convince the teens who prefer iPhones.

I never had an Android device and I'm a Apple Music subscriber. But I have no issues seeing when other services or devices do things better.

 

[DanVM]

Even flip phones have apps. What cell intending have apps in 2025?

Also part of the android experience and yet teens prefer iPhones.

Agree. Like I said, iPhone + apps is what teens wants.

Yes, I do.

Don't worry. Nobody is perfect.

3rd party apps makes every single consumer platform what it is today.

Agree...

You’re comparing an app made for mindless consumption with a communication app.

You can have mindless communication with iMessage and you can have productive consumption in TikTok and Instagram. Everything depends on the user.

As they can on almost every other cell platform yet they chose iPhone.

iPhones are excellent devices. I don't blame them.

 

[ignatius345]

London resident here- iPhones? Absolutely. iMessage? Find that hard to believe- I haven't met a single iPhone owner here who uses iMessage instead of WhatsApp.

Yep. But in the US it's the norm. Different places, different usage patterns.

 

[DanVM]

It may be objectively faster but not subjectively better.

I have seen in person both, the MB G63 and the DBX, both are far better than my SUV.

But maybe not subjectively better.

When you say "maybe" is because you don't know if it's better?

Humankind needs to improve, so the point?

Even ChatGPT is improving, open ai must not be happy with it.

Apple is improving being one of the worst AI services. ChatGPT is improving by maintaining the lead in the AI market. See the difference?

 

[I7guy]

I have AirPods Pro, and while I like them, I had many issues with them. And based in the articles and forums, I'm not the only one. Maybe the issues were solved in AP Pro Gen 2.

With tens of millions of units is it so hard to believe some may have issues. Either hardware based or self-inflicted. Anecdotally I’ve had less issues with AirPods than other headsets.

Airplay 2 drains my phone, and stops playing when phone goes off. Spotify Connect connects the device to the service, so it doesn't drains my phone, neither stops playing when it's off.

AirPlay 2 can play for hours and Spotify connect isn’t supported by my tv. In fact none of my smart devices support Spotify connect. That airplay 2 is in most smart devices these days should say something.

AirPlay 1 Spotify 1

Spotify 0

Why would Spotify do video streams when they are a music service?

SiriusXM does video streams.

And I didn't say having the phone connected is a showstopper. I just pointed out Spotify Connect does a better job by transferring the stream from the smartphone to the device, compared to the AirPlay 2, that depends on the stream from the iPhone.

AirPlay 2 does a better job on Apple devices than Spotify connect.

Spotify Connect Basics | Spotify for Developers

developer.spotify.com

I never had an Android device and I'm an Apple Music subscriber. But I have no issues seeing when other services or devices do things better.

Neither do I. When they actually do.

 

[I7guy]

I have seen in person both, the MB G63 and the DBX, both are far better than my SUV.

When you say "maybe" is because you don't know if it's better?

Maybe is said because you can’t judge what is better for me.

Apple is improving being one of the worst AI services. ChatGPT is improving by maintaining the lead in the AI market. See the difference?

Apple is not an ai provider and open ai doesn’t manufacturer cell phones.

 

[I7guy]

Agree. Like I said, iPhone + apps is what teens wants.

iPhone plus apps are what adults wants also. iPhone plus app are what parents want for their preschool also.

Don't worry. Nobody is perfect.

We know that.

Agree...

You can have mindless communication with iMessage

It takes some brain power to type out a sentence and then it’s not mindless.

and you can have productive consumption in TikTok and Instagram.

Not really. One can have productive consumption in YouTube. TikTok is a time waster.

Everything depends on the user.

iPhones are excellent devices. I don't blame them.

All phones are good these days but teens prefer….

 

[uczcret]

Yep. But in the US it's the norm. Different places, different usage patterns.

That's true but the person I responded to was specifically referring to their visit in London, not the US.

 

[scorpio vega]

I agree with you that the iPhone is the preferred phone. But article also mentions "Though teen interest in the ‌iPhone‌ is high, other Apple products and services are not as popular." That's the reality. Accept it and move onto something else.

Lmao but you’re trying to have two different arguments and your argument is flawed bc if Android has all the apps that iOS has, then why aren’t they choosing Android then.

So clearly the services and apps are irrelevant as you failed to explain why they still choose iPhones.

Thanks.

 

[scorpio vega]

What I understood from your comment is that Apple Intelligence works for you because has better integration. Good for you! But at the end, other AI services, like ChatGPT and Copilot are better and more capable

For you. Not for me or others.

Again I don’t use Apple intelligence . I had no real need for it but it’s fine to me

It seems that you prioritize integration over other features.

I do. Full integration will always be better than relying on 3rd parties. Anything can break and you have to wait for a fix and hope it comes fast

BTW, I'm not trying to tell you what it's good or bad for you. I just post what I understood from your comment.

But you are

When you are in the line of work, you have to interact with things you don't like, like gyn. That's how it is in the workplace. But you like tech, and not are forced to use Android or AI.

Okay and I choose to be informed on tech. Idk why you are shocked there people want to be informed.

Unlike android fans who hate iOS for some arbitrary reason, I may hate Android but I do like to be aware of things.

I worked in tech for 8 years. My family
And friends always come to me
For advice or tech support.

I don’t game but I still know about gaming news and support.

I dislike Android but i love tech. Idk why that’s hard for you to get. I’m a geek.

For some reason you have strong opinions on how bad are both, but still use them. But if you are happy using tech you don't like, good for you!

I mainly use Android now on a tablet and it’s not even android I’m using. It’s Netflix and Hulu on a tablet that happens to be Android.

And only when I don’t want to hold a heavier iPad.

Could the popularity of Apple Fitness be related to the trial included in the Apple Watch? I did some research, and didn't find anything that point out the popularity of Apple Fitness today.

Trials do end.

agree that Apple Music is very popular. I'm a subscriber, and have no issue with it. Although I'm missing features as Spotiy Connect, which are superior to AirPlay 2, specially with 3rd party receivers.

Spotify is terrible but okay.

Don't worry about news, arcade or TV+. Most people ignore them, just like you and me.

Just bc I don’t use them doesn’t mean they aren’t good products.

Apple is not being deficient in one area, but in most areas.

Yet they, unlike most companies, can be deficient in some areas if the other areas are more than capable of holding their own and keeping the overall group up.

Prime example: my best friend is our trivia teams mvp.

We were down 4 of our seven players for our weekly trivia team last week. We were still the first place team even with a “weaker” team and more competition bc we still had our ace.

If we didn’t have our ace, we would have likely lost.

Same with Apple. Apple is doing fine with its aces in services that can protect the other deficiencies (if there are any loss leaders in services). If their aces start falling the. They have a problem.

Google does not make money off Android for example. It makes irs money off the Google play store.

If Google is force to sell Android they are in grave danger because then OEMs will start creating their own app stores since they no longer have to pay to use google play which means they won’t be installing play because they want their own store.

(I actually wish Google would be made to separate Android so it will die but I digress)

They are failing with News, Arcade, TV+ and Fitness. Are they making money with Apple Music? I don't know

How are they failing? Just bc their market share isn’t Spotify or Netflix?

And also, I think they have under services the agreement with Google, where the receive some billions to make Google Search the default engine. But I could be wrong.

Yes Googles annual payment is added into apple services but Google search isn’t the bulk of the reason why apple services are growing. Since the 26 billion is split between all 4 quarters.

From an economic POV, as a whole they are doing well. But things are not that good when customers are ignoring most services.

I love using facts. So let’s talk facts. This is all from macrumors report a few months back.

Apple services was up 14 percent from the last quarter of 2024 for q1 of 2025
With a total of $26.3 billion revenue

1. Services
This comes from paid subscriptions doubling and they have over 1 billion active subscriptions total


2. Macs

Also increase from 7.8 billion from q4 to 9 billion in q1 2025

3. iPads
Grew 15 perfect between q4 2024 and q1 2025

So yes Apple services are doing white well it seems.

It's obvious that teens don't only game. But, don't you think is extremely popular between them? I'm sure most teens artists, musicians, influencers and podcasters also play games. And from what I have seen, gaming in Mac still terrible.

Gaming on Mac is not terrible. The hardware is able to compete with windows.

The support is not as good as window sadly. That’s a developer preference. Not necessarily a Mac thing.

Most teen artists and musicians usually don’t have a market in gaming since those are two entirely different genres lmao

While I do game my content is mostly about music, dance and fashion lmao.

Just like most gamers who are influencers aren’t going to be talking about the latest album release from lady Gaga.

So that’s a false take to have.

Macs are great for content creation and are very popular among teens in those areas. But Windows is far ahead in gaming and streamers. And the reason it's obvious, Windows PC's have a better ecosystem and better hardware for gaming.

Okay and if you look at Macs vs any OEMs Mac’s are still more profitable. Just like iPhones vs any single android OEMs.

Sure if you combine windows altogether or Android, as a whole, they outsell iPhones.

But as it stands Mac’s are still popular than most windows OEMs if you compare them by the brands.

I agree with you. They like their iPhones because they are excellent devices, but also because they have the apps and services they need. That's my point. Don't you agree?

Finally this discussion can be ended now. You’ve been saying what I and the other posters have been saying then going back and contradicting yourself.

lol.

 

[DanVM]

With tens of millions of units is it so hard to believe some may have issues. Either hardware based or self-inflicted. Anecdotally I’ve had less issues with AirPods than other headsets.

Not everyone have, including me, had the same experience as you.

Apple hit with class-action lawsuit over AirPods Pro crackling

A class-action lawsuit is accusing Apple of false advertising, claiming the crackling issue of the first-gen AirPods Pro go against Apple's marketing promises.

appleinsider.com

AirPlay 2 can play for hours and Spotify connect isn’t supported by my tv. In fact none of my smart devices support Spotify connect. That airplay 2 is in most smart devices these days should say something.

Technically I can play for days with Spotify Connect. I suppose that's better, right?

And Samsung have TV's with support for Spotify Connect. Maybe it's time to replace yours.

Spotify - Connect

Spotify Connect lets you tune in from a range of WiFi, Bluetooth, Chromecast, or AirPlay devices, no matter where you are.

connect.spotify.com

Do you have a link showing that Airplay 2 supports more devices than Spotify connect? I did some research, but didn;t find anything.

Spotify 0

Remember that Spotify keeps playing, even if the device is off. That's a good thing, right?
AirPlay 1 Spotify 1

SiriusXM does video streams.

But Spotify doesn't do video streams. What SiriusXM has to do with this?

AirPlay 2 does a better job on Apple devices than Spotify connect.

And Spotify Connect does better than AirPlay 2 with Spotify.

Neither do I. When they actually do.

I pointed out a simple benefit of Spotify Connect over AirPlay 2, but you still negative about it. Why?

 

[DanVM]

Maybe is said because you can’t judge what is better for me.

Good to know that I'm not judging what's better for you.

Apple is not an ai provider and open ai doesn’t manufacturer cell phones.

Maybe Apple is not an AI provider as OpenAI do, but they have Apple Intelligence that is supposed to compete with ChatGPT and Copilot, and the result are not good. Even Apple internaly call it "ugly and embarrasing" and had to remove ads from features that were not available.

Apple exec slams ‘ugly and embarrassing’ Siri delays in all-hands meeting - 9to5Mac

We’re one week removed from Apple’s decision to indefinitely delay the “more personalized” version of Siri that was first announced...

9to5mac.com

Apple pulls iPhone 16 ad over Apple Intelligence mishap - 9to5Mac

Since last fall, Apple has been marketing the iPhone 16 and Apple Intelligence with an unreleased Siri feature. After confirming...

9to5mac.com

Based in your comments, it looks like the "ugly and embarrassing" Apple Intelligence works for you. Still, I suggest you to try with other services. For some reason, you like something even Apple don't like.

BTW, what OpenAI not being a mobile manufacturer has to do with this?

 

[DanVM]

It takes some brain power to type out a sentence and then it’s not mindless.

Not really. One can have productive consumption in YouTube. TikTok is a time waster.

It also takes brain power to do videos in YouTube and TikTok, and some of them are very good (at least from what I heard from some of them, since I don't have a TikTok account). All dependes on the content creator.

All phones are good these days but teens prefer….

Not all phones are good today, and teen prefer iPhone because are one of the best available.

 

[DanVM]

Lmao but you’re trying to have two different arguments and your argument is flawed bc if Android has all the apps that iOS has, then why aren’t they choosing Android then.

So clearly the services and apps are irrelevant as you failed to explain why they still choose iPhones.

Thanks.

I just pointed out that teens prefer iPhone because they are excellent devices and also because they have access to the apps and services they need.

 

[ignatius345]

That's true but the person I responded to was specifically referring to their visit in London, not the US.

Maybe we're saying the same thing: in the US, people use iMessage a lot. In London, not so much.

 

[DanVM]

For you. Not for me or others.

Again I don’t use Apple intelligence . I had no real need for it but it’s fine to me

I find interesting that it's fine for you, but Apple call it "ugly and embarrassing". Maybe you should rise you standards a little bit.

Apple exec slams ‘ugly and embarrassing’ Siri delays in all-hands meeting - 9to5Mac

We’re one week removed from Apple’s decision to indefinitely delay the “more personalized” version of Siri that was first announced...

9to5mac.com

I do. Full integration will always be better than relying on 3rd parties. Anything can break and you have to wait for a fix and hope it comes fast

Agree with you. But there are a lot of cases where 3rd party is far better than what's integrated in iOS devices.

But you are

No, I'm not. You are free to use what ever you want.

How are they failing? Just bc their market share isn’t Spotify or Netflix?

I suppose.

Yes Googles annual payment is added into apple services but Google search isn’t the bulk of the reason why apple services are growing. Since the 26 billion is split between all 4 quarters.

Maybe isn't the bulk, but still a good amount, even for Apple.

I love using facts. So let’s talk facts. This is all from macrumors report a few months back.

Apple services was up 14 percent from the last quarter of 2024 for q1 of 2025
With a total of $26.3 billion revenue

1. Services
This comes from paid subscriptions doubling and they have over 1 billion active subscriptions total


2. Macs

Also increase from 7.8 billion from q4 to 9 billion in q1 2025

3. iPads
Grew 15 perfect between q4 2024 and q1 2025

So yes Apple services are doing white well it seems.

Did Apple gave details of which se services were doing well? Did they announce that the are losing $1B per year in Apple TV+?

Apple TV+ is losing $1 billion every year, per report - 9to5Mac

Apple TV+ is not yet profitable despite growing subscriber numbers, as its losses reportedly cost Apple $1 billion every year.

9to5mac.com

Are Apple Music, Fitness, News and Arcade are doing good? I don't think so, but I could be wrong.

Gaming on Mac is not terrible. The hardware is able to compete with windows.

The support is not as good as window sadly. That’s a developer preference. Not necessarily a Mac thing.

Most teen artists and musicians usually don’t have a market in gaming since those are two entirely different genres lmao

While I do game my content is mostly about music, dance and fashion lmao.

Just like most gamers who are influencers aren’t going to be talking about the latest album release from lady Gaga.

So that’s a false take to have.

Macs are great for content creation and are very popular among teens in those areas. But Windows is far ahead in gaming

and streamers. And the reason it's obvious, Windows PC's have a better ecosystem and better hardware for gaming.

Again, gaming on Mac it's terrible. I agree with you that Apple hardware is competitive (although I think they still behind compared to the latest Nvidia GPU's). But you have to consider that gaming is much more than just hardware. Apple Arcade is miles behind GamePass and PSN. Apple don't even have a controller, and you have to use a Sony or Xbox controller to play games. And then you have the Apple TV as a gaming console, is awful.

At the end, gaming on the Apple ecosystem is terrible. Let's see if something changes in the future.

Finally this discussion can be ended now. You’ve been saying what I and the other posters have been saying then going back and contradicting yourself.

I always said that iPhone are excellent devices. I just pointed out that apps are important for teens, and part of the reasons they choose an iPhone.

 

[I7guy]

It also takes brain power to do videos in YouTube and TikTok, and some of them are very good (at least from what I heard from some of them, since I don't have a TikTok account). All dependes on the content creator.

Teens aren't creating anything in youtube other than a short with an iphone. And that doesn't take brainpower.

Not all phones are good today, and teen prefer iPhone because are one of the best available.

Phones that cost at the price point of iphones are certainly good enough. But yeah, teens prefer iphones.

 

[I7guy]

Good to know that I'm not judging what's better for you.

Maybe Apple is not an AI provider as OpenAI do, but they have Apple Intelligence that is supposed to compete with ChatGPT and Copilot, and the result are not good. Even Apple internaly call it "ugly and embarrasing" and had to remove ads from features that were not available.

Apple exec slams ‘ugly and embarrassing’ Siri delays in all-hands meeting - 9to5Mac

We’re one week removed from Apple’s decision to indefinitely delay the “more personalized” version of Siri that was first announced...

9to5mac.com

Apple pulls iPhone 16 ad over Apple Intelligence mishap - 9to5Mac

Since last fall, Apple has been marketing the iPhone 16 and Apple Intelligence with an unreleased Siri feature. After confirming...

9to5mac.com

Based in your comments, it looks like the "ugly and embarrassing" Apple Intelligence works for you. Still, I suggest you to try with other services. For some reason, you like something even Apple don't like.

BTW, what OpenAI not being a mobile manufacturer has to do with this?

This is neither here nor there. Apple delayed part of a software feature.

 

[I7guy]

Not everyone have, including me, had the same experience as you.

Apple hit with class-action lawsuit over AirPods Pro crackling

A class-action lawsuit is accusing Apple of false advertising, claiming the crackling issue of the first-gen AirPods Pro go against Apple's marketing promises.

appleinsider.com

You know that filing a lawsuit is easy and winning is the tough part.

Technically I can play for days with Spotify Connect. I suppose that's better, right?

But spotify connect can't do video. So it's a non-starter. Also this makes no sense as most people won't stream for days. I can plug it when needed. Airplay 2 is more flexible anyway.

And Samsung have TV's with support for Spotify Connect. Maybe it's time to replace yours.

Spotify - Connect

Spotify Connect lets you tune in from a range of WiFi, Bluetooth, Chromecast, or AirPlay devices, no matter where you are.

connect.spotify.com

Why would I replace a two year tv to get a protocol that's inferior to Airplay 2? Makes no sense.

Do you have a link showing that Airplay 2 supports more devices than Spotify connect? I did some research, but didn;t find anything.

I cited that as anecdotal evidence in my house. And there are rumors my car may support airplay 2 as well at some point.

Remember that Spotify keeps playing, even if the device is off. That's a good thing, right?

It's an irrelevant thing.

AirPlay 1 Spotify 1

Airplay 1 Spotify 0 as spotify connect is an inferior protocol.

But Spotify doesn't do video streams. What SiriusXM has to do with this?

Because Sirius XM does video streams.

And Spotify Connect does better than AirPlay 2 with Spotify.

No it doesn't.

I pointed out a simple benefit of Spotify Connect over AirPlay 2, but you still negative about it. Why?

It's not a benefit. It's irrelevant.

 

[I7guy]

I find interesting that it's fine for you, but Apple call it "ugly and embarrassing". Maybe you should rise you standards a little bit.

Apple exec slams ‘ugly and embarrassing’ Siri delays in all-hands meeting - 9to5Mac

We’re one week removed from Apple’s decision to indefinitely delay the “more personalized” version of Siri that was first announced...

9to5mac.com

Agree with you. But there are a lot of cases where 3rd party is far better than what's integrated in iOS devices.

No, I'm not. You are free to use what ever you want.

I suppose.

Maybe isn't the bulk, but still a good amount, even for Apple.

Did Apple gave details of which se services were doing well? Did they announce that the are losing $1B per year in Apple TV+?

Apple TV+ is losing $1 billion every year, per report - 9to5Mac

Apple TV+ is not yet profitable despite growing subscriber numbers, as its losses reportedly cost Apple $1 billion every year.

9to5mac.com

Are Apple Music, Fitness, News and Arcade are doing good? I don't think so, but I could be wrong.

Again, gaming on Mac it's terrible. I agree with you that Apple hardware is competitive (although I think they still behind compared to the latest Nvidia GPU's). But you have to consider that gaming is much more than just hardware. Apple Arcade is miles behind GamePass and PSN. Apple don't even have a controller, and you have to use a Sony or Xbox controller to play games. And then you have the Apple TV as a gaming console, is awful.

At the end, gaming on the Apple ecosystem is terrible. Let's see if something changes in the future.

I always said that iPhone are excellent devices. I just pointed out that apps are important for teens, and part of the reasons they choose an iPhone.

The above is far and away from the thread topic. I personally doubt many of the "sources", but you can take them to heart. Apple had a recent quarter with record revenue and record services revenue. Apple TV is obviously moving in the right direction. This is just some off-topic misdirection and subtle mudslinging.

Additionally, while teens may prefer other services, that doesn't mean Apple services are excluded.

 

[scorpio vega]

Still, I suggest you to try with other services. For some reason, you like something even Apple don't like.

Why? Bc you say so

Not all phones are good today, and teen prefer iPhone because are one of the best available.

Okay.

just pointed out that teens prefer iPhone because they are excellent devices and also because they have access to the apps and services they need.

Again double talking and back tracking.

Maybe we're saying the same thing: in the US, people use iMessage a lot. In London, not so much.

And the people I was with do. And according to stats iMessage is used by 1/3 of uk population.

I find interesting that it's fine for you, but Apple call it "ugly and embarrassing". Maybe you should rise you standards a little bit.

Why do I need to raise my standards? You really seem bothered that I like Apple intelligence and you don’t lol.

It’s hilarious. My standards are fine for me.

Agree with you. But there are a lot of cases where 3rd party is far better than what's integrated in iOS devices.

For you. Stop making blanket statements.

Maybe isn't the bulk, but still a good amount, even for Apple.

20-26 billion a year is roughly 5-6.5 billion per quarter which is less than what Apple Music brings in which is roughly 9-10 billion.

Try again

Are Apple Music, Fitness, News and Arcade are doing good? I don't think so, but I could be wrong

Apple music is doing just fine. Again as a whole Apple services are doing perfectly fine.

You’re trying to make a point that certain services are weaker and less popular but miss the point….quarter on quarter, it’s growing in revenue and profit.

That’s why your argument makes no sense.

We have a weak bartender at my job. Can’t handle night or busy shifts at all. But none of us ever want to work day shifts bc we are usually hungover. Lmao. So he works the shifts no one wants to work.

Our weakest bartender is still overall useful to the team and we carry him bc we can take the hit in his deficiency bc we more than make up for it .

(I say this bc he’s my brother lol). Now if he was an absolute detriment to the team then we would be worried. Something similar to Apple.

Again, gaming on Mac it's terrible. I agree with you that Apple hardware is competitive (although I think they still behind compared to the latest Nvidia GPU's). But you have to consider that gaming is much more than just hardware. Apple Arcade is miles behind GamePass and PSN. Apple don't even have a controller, and you have to use a Sony or Xbox controller to play games. And then you have the Apple TV as a gaming console, is awfu

The hardware is fine as you basically admitted.

The support is not.

You can let this dead point go. You haven’t made it.

At the end, gaming on the Apple ecosystem is terrible. Let's see if something changes in the future.

Comparing Apple Arcade to PlayStation or Xbox or Nintendo is hilarious. And that’s why your arguments make no sense.

As soon as someone disproves your claims you then come beck with something completely outlandish.

I always said that iPhone are excellent devices. I just pointed out that apps are important for teens, and part of the reasons they choose an iPhone.

No you’ve double talked and back tracked

 

[scorpio vega]

I suppose.

Using this logic. I guess that means Android failed in America then since Apple has kind 60-70 percent of the market share.

Your logic makes zero sense my friend lol.

 

[DefNotAnLLM]

I use my iPhone with my receiver, and when it turns off, Apple Music stops playing after a few seconds. This do not happens when play music with Spotify Connect. It just keeps playing.

Maybe AirPlay 2 works differently with non-Apple devices.

Yeah, now that I think about it, the music example functionally-wise works that way, but the mechanism was probably a feature of continuity. However, and I must caveat this as certainly possible given the variance in AirPlay implementations, it still seems unlikely and counterintuitive that stream playback (as opposed to screen mirroring) would, if playing an HLS VOD stream for example, use twice the network traffic (and then some for playback transport state) instead of just proxying the connection between the server and the playback device.

 

[DanVM]

This is neither here nor there. Apple delayed part of a software feature.

And it was delayed because it was "ugly and embarrassing. But you don't have to worry, since it works for you.