Because it's not Apple's efforts - it's the developers'. Apple is compensated for their efforts by customers buying their products. Customers buy their products partly for the ability to run third-party apps. Take away that ability and Apple wouldn't sell nearly as many phones. Apple taking 30% from developers is double-dipping Apple's customers.
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Telegram CEO Accuses Apple of Destroying Dreams and Crushing Entrepreneurs
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No. It's a literal and exact comparison. You don't own or control any of that which you "pay" for.
Do you mind replying and letting us know if you truly believe what you wrote? Seriously - I really want to know if you think this or if you realize they just think 30% is way too high.
These aren't vacuum cleaners. They are platforms. Apple's ownership, control, and direction do not end when the customer buys the initial piece of hardware.
It’s called the Apple Store. It’s owned by Apple. Apple decides the policy of their store as any other business decides how to run their business. Telegram is a seriously flawed product and has only itself to blame for its problems. Patel is another whining Zuckerberg clone.
You're right, and none of those rights would be affected by developers selling apps directly to customers.
I dont understand why these companies moan, if you sell your software through a reseller they want 30% and if you sell it through a distributer they 50% or more. So Apple is no different.
After Apple does own the eco system and they spent millions to get working and to continue spend millions on it.
They also spend vast amounts of money providing APIs and support so developers can develop for their platform and make money.
I would bet if these companies had become an Apple and they would be charging as well.
If you dont like it sell your products on Android, after all there more Android phones out there.
After Apple does own the eco system and they spent millions to get working and to continue spend millions on it.
They also spend vast amounts of money providing APIs and support so developers can develop for their platform and make money.
I would bet if these companies had become an Apple and they would be charging as well.
If you dont like it sell your products on Android, after all there more Android phones out there.
“I hope that the regulators in the EU, India, and elsewhere start taking action“
Christ, this man is such a hypocrite! Calling out EU regulators to help him, when German regulators are unsuccessfully looking for him (because Telegram‘s official offices in Dubai are deserted) to fine him tens of thousands Euros for ignoring German social media service rules. 🤮
Christ, this man is such a hypocrite! Calling out EU regulators to help him, when German regulators are unsuccessfully looking for him (because Telegram‘s official offices in Dubai are deserted) to fine him tens of thousands Euros for ignoring German social media service rules. 🤮
Typical sociopathic Russian billionaire bs misdirection.
LoL he’s only getting 70% of his dreams, from a platform that makes all that possible.
When he wants 130% of his dreams by having access to identifying and monitizing you via his payment provider.
So poor he might not be able to buy another citizenship.
LoL he’s only getting 70% of his dreams, from a platform that makes all that possible.
When he wants 130% of his dreams by having access to identifying and monitizing you via his payment provider.
So poor he might not be able to buy another citizenship.
What a drama queen. He can go and develop his platform elsewhere and make enough money but what he wants is for someone to hand him a free ride to be a billionaire.
And what right exactly does anyone have to sell anything on Apple's wholly owned and created platform?
Telegram is a govt-independant privacy-oriiented app that has the honor of being hated by govts in especially restrictive countries. They don't develop phones, operating systems, develop chips or buy entire TV shows. They're a messaging/social media app that's being shafted by a monopoly that's now with its questionable practices is put into question the world over.
Yet what you write is "hate us cause they ain't us" and "make your own phone"?
You're a walking, talking waste of good oxygen.
The Antitrust Laws
Congress passed the first antitrust law, the Sherman Act, in 1890 as a "comprehensive charter of economic liberty aimed at preserving free and unfettered competition as the rule of trade." In 1914,
Yeah, it‘s very popular in German Nazi circles. Some dumb Nazi Telegram users used an open Telegram group to plan the abduction and killing of the acting German health secretary and got snatched by the police. These people are so dumb or sure of themselves that they even use their real names as their Telegram usernames. 😂
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This is NOTHING compared to Amazon and its platform... the difference is that Apple actually REMOVES FAKES, COUNTERFEITS, and COPIES. Amazon actually has offices in China that ENCOURAGES dangerous practices because they know they can't get sued and blame the Chinese, knowing 99.99% of Americans do NOT have the resources to sue anyone in China. AMAZON is the Devil here, NOT APPLE!!! Amazon needs to be made responsible for the products that are sold on their platform and just how bad is it? Did you know that they have found BABY SEATS fakes sold on Amazon, so if you got in an accident your baby would LIKELY BE KILLED and Amazon holds ZERO RESPONSIBILITY and you would have to go after the Chinese manufacturer, once you can get that information from Amazon!
Just like who would want to shop at Walmart if they had no productions to sell and Walmart gets more than 30%.
This is how I see it since the GC is an inbetween to get the product. Like if you have a discount program at a store, you won't get a discount on the GC. But if someone uses that GC in the program, they get a discount. The GC is just a form of payment
Nope. See, this conversation is completely lost on you people. That's not what anti-trust is. You didn't answer the actual question I asked you. The answer is: none.The Antitrust Laws
Congress passed the first antitrust law, the Sherman Act, in 1890 as a "comprehensive charter of economic liberty aimed at preserving free and unfettered competition as the rule of trade." In 1914,www.ftc.gov
No one anywhere has any "right" under any law to participate in or sell anything on Apple's platform. I think average folks who don't know the law very well are being confused by high profile tech people who know full well that they have no claim, and count on rallying support to disguise that.
As the judge ruled in Epic's case, Apple's success does not automatically make it into a utility that is owned by the people.
Do you think they would get a lower cut if they sold software through regular distribution and retail channels? 30% is a pretty good deal given the exposure offered (and the absence of distribution costs).
And cut on in-app options is logical, otherwise all developers would adopt the freemium model to avoid any cost.
which would increase prices for those devices. no thanks. i'm not paying more than $500 for a playstation 5
This reminds me of what I think of a lot lately. Back in my day people just wrote applications and hosted them and people downloaded and ran them and nobody else had to be involved. There was still the option to use repos or download sites. All Apple did was make it the only option on a platform where no one knew better. I have been against sideloading because for a while the app store model was better and Apple was actually protecting us from some bad things. But I think that time has passed and it's more restrictive now than it needs to be.