Isn't apple going to open up Messenger? I have used Telegram only because most of my family are android users. If not Messenger what would you suggest?
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Just learned something about Telegram I have a Nephew in the USAF they are not allowed to use Telegram on their military issued iPads and such "Signal" is mandated. This is all the endorsement I need loading Signal on everything now.
Been reading up on this and it seems that Signal is being used in the Military despite apparently unenforced regulations preventing it. Basically it is the only fully encrypted US messaging service that is cross platform privately owned by a non-profit.
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Been reading up on this and it seems that Signal is being used in the Military despite apparently unenforced regulations preventing it. Basically it is the only fully encrypted US messaging service that is cross platform privately owned by a non-profit.
Technology preview: Sealed sender for Signal
In addition to the end-to-end encryption that protects every Signal message, the Signal service is designed to minimize the data that is retained about Signal users. By design, it does not store a record of your contacts, social graph, conversation list, location, user avatar, user profile name, ...
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This has been public knowledge for years.
Easily available from any web search, but here's some:
Signal is a government op
Signal was created and funded by a CIA spinoff. It is not your friend.
yasha.substack.com
Telegram boss throws accusations at Signal, claims rival has ties to US government
Writing on his own Telegram channel, Durov said that Twitter founder Jack Dorsey had uncovered that the leaders of Signal are activists used by the US State...
www.techspot.com
Supposedly Secure Messaging App Signal Launched With Gov’t Funds, Headed By Propagandist Now Running NPR: Report
A new report by activist Chris Rufo claims Signal was not only launched with government funds but is also headed by National Public Radio CEO Katherine Maher.
The dead giveaway is the fact that you need a phone number (lol) to activate it (wut!)
I used the app years ago and it leaked some private (but harmless) information that proved it's compromised.
The only suspicious thing to me is Ed Snowden was pushing this garbage telling us it was safe.... I don't know what to think about that.
By the way, Durov says he was approached by US deep state and asked to give a backdoor.
This has been public knowledge for years.
Easily available from any web search, but here's some:
Signal is a government op
Signal was created and funded by a CIA spinoff. It is not your friend.Telegram boss throws accusations at Signal, claims rival has ties to US government
Writing on his own Telegram channel, Durov said that Twitter founder Jack Dorsey had uncovered that the leaders of Signal are activists used by the US State...Supposedly Secure Messaging App Signal Launched With Gov’t Funds, Headed By Propagandist Now Running NPR: Report
A new report by activist Chris Rufo claims Signal was not only launched with government funds but is also headed by National Public Radio CEO Katherine Maher.dailycaller.com
The dead giveaway is the fact that you need a phone number (lol) to activate it (wut!)
I used the app years ago and it leaked some private (but harmless) information that proved it's compromised.
The only suspicious thing to me is Ed Snowden was pushing this garbage telling us it was safe.... I don't know what to think about that.
By the way, Durov says he was approached by US deep state and asked to give a backdoor.
Signal President Meredith Whittaker on resisting government threats to privacy
The encrypted messaging app is on the front lines of battles over encryption in India, Russia, and Iran.
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telegram.
dear father stop
girlfriend pregnant stop
please send money stop
we have to marry stop
her father angry stop
love your son end
dear father stop
girlfriend pregnant stop
please send money stop
we have to marry stop
her father angry stop
love your son end
I mean anything you want to keep private between you and the person you're messaging with
do you have any proof of this accusation?
They refuse stop free discussion and information sharing. That’s what elites hates
in the EU, authoritarianism is ok, as long as it’s THEIR authoritarianism. And so many little Trotskys here cheering it on.
Amd you know what ‘hate speech’ is, right? Any speech the authoritarian hates.
When your leaders are a bunch of authoritarian neo Marxists, anything can be Dee,Ed a crime. Especially wrongthink.
Stop posting that rubbish. He made that speech 12 years ago back in 2012 when comedians were coming under fire for things they were saying in their stand up comedian shows.
It seems to me we have many members in here who think free speech is absolute and are therefore arguing the point that criminal activity should be allowed on messaging platforms. It is abhorrent that we have members in here who think like that because otherwise why argue the point of free speech on a platform where numerous counts of illegal activity have been caught taking place.
So you think using messaging app's to distribute child pornography's is ok do you? you think terrorists using messaging app's to talk to one another to help build bombs and where to set them off is ok do you? you think using messaging apps to sell and buy humans (people trafficking) is ok do you?, you think buying and selling guns via messaging app's is ok do you? you think the selling and buying of illegal dangerous drugs is ok do you? because THAT is what your so called EU authoritarian is trying to stop which appears to be something you disagree with because you refer to the EU as authoritarian and refer to those who agree with what the EU is trying to stop as 'little Trotskys'.
The problem is not the EU, the problem is people like you who feel illegal activity should be allowed on messaging apps.
whoa. dude. ease up on the angry posts please
Why????, just why????. Members in here are attacking the EU claiming free speech is under threat and that the EU is being authoritarian. All the EU is doing is trying to combat illegal activity on a messaging platform and many members are going ape over it. This tells me they do not want illegal activity to stop and that is a problem for me and therefore I have a right to call them out on it.
That's a strange twist of phrase. Do you accuse Durov himself of distributing pornography, or building bombs, or selling people and guns?
Obviously, those things are not okay. The responsibility to stop, catch, and prosecute people doing not-okay things belongs to the police, not the platform owner.
The platform owner's duty of care ends at not promoting such things, and not *actively* preventing investigating into such things. For example, deleting or obscuring records, *after* they've been requested.
He should not have to freely submit information to the authorities because the nature of his app -- secure communication -- has legitimacy outside of and pre-dating anything they are trying to taint him with.
Where would the complicity end? Let's charge the platform owner. Let's charge the engineers working on it. Let's charge his cloud provider hosting the storage and bandwidth. Why not charge the ISP running backbones transmitting said communication across the globe. The problem with people like you and your willingness to slide on the slippery slope.
because you may need to buy a new keyboard the way you’re banging furiously on your current one 😏
Not to mention @laptech conveniently leaves out other usages for the platform. Discussions on how to fight against authoritarian regimes. Lovers communicating in regions of the world where their relationship is not allowed by the state or governing religion, alas I repeat myself.
What if those conversations are happening in quasi public chat groups? When law enforcement joins such a group in disguise and witnesses illegal activity, should they not be able to request more details about the users involved?
I'm against eavesdropping on private conversations. But public groups where practically anyone can join, is a different thing.
I can ask, but I definitely cannot guarantee they will listen to me
What if he is passively obstructing investigations by not cooperating and hiding behind elaborate corporate structures? Would that make him complicit? I think this is what effectively the arrest is about.