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Apple made the same mistake with the max as it did with the original HomePod - the market didn’t need a high end speaker. It needed an iOT presence in every room. It got that wrong and also these. The market doesn’t need a £599 pair of headphones when inflation is rampant and the cost of gas surging. Apple should price these at £299 - they’d sell a mountain and drive brand recognition just like beats did 10 years ago. Price is ridiculous for what they offer.
I wonder where "driving brand recognition" is on Apples list of priorities.
 
I wonder where "driving brand recognition" is on Apples list of priorities.
I'm not who you replied to (nor do I entirely agree with them) but I bet brand recognition is very, very high on Apple's list of priorities. There's a reason why Beats still exists. There's a reason why Apple is probably the most marketable brand in the world. Apple could create a product and not put it's logo on it - I guarantee 9/10 people (maybe a slight exaggeration) would be able to guess who made it.

The OP you replied to also mentions brand recognition in the audio space. I can assure you when Apple users think of buying an audio product they think AirPods first. Apple isn't trying to sell (because it knows it's a different market) headphones to the android space. Nobody drives brand recognition like Apple does; their marketing department probably has the most power compared to in any other company.
 
Just bought mine a few days ago, after returning Sony XM5s (also great, but uncomfortable for me). They are the best headphones I have ever used, really happy with them.
Have you compared them to the comfort of the Bose QC 35? I have some Sennheisers that I love but my ears hurt so bad after 30min. Recently I used the Bose on a flight and my ears felt fine for several hours. I’ve heard the Max are heavier than the others, but I think my main issue is just making sure the ear cups are big enough to not touch my ears like the Bose.
 
One of the best Apple products I've ever owned and used. It rarely leaves my head. Very good sound quality, great ANC, and very comfortable for long sessions. They are even more comfortable than Powerbeats Pro.
Do you find them more comfortable than the Bose QC 35/45? Want something for 5+ hour flights
 
A price drop would help but honestly what makes the current version so unappealing to me is that awful “case” and lack of USB C
USB C is some sort of weird obsession. I have 50 devices charged and powered by weird custom connectors but some how Lightning is scary. You charge your headphones once a week. What possible difference does it make other than satisfying OCD tendencies?
 
Just sold my Max... I really liked their sound signature, buuut the form factor is best for home listening where I prefer to use a separate DAC/Amp but then again they don't even support Lossless and also need to be charged regularly even when using wired... :rolleyes:
 
Features I'd like to see: Lossless Audio, Power Off Button. Anything else would be icing on the cake. :)
 
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Do you find them more comfortable than the Bose QC 35/45? Want something for 5+ hour flights
Couldn't tell you as I've never worn the Bose QC's...but these are very comfortable headphones. Five hour flight, no problem. I would take them off maybe twice in that time for a 2-3 min break. The only downside to these cans for extended use is that sometimes they can build up a little humidity inside the cups, which I've read may be a slight design flaw. I like to just take them off periodically to let them breathe. But comfortability alone...you could wear these for well beyond 5 hrs and have no problem IMO. Super comfy.
 
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"Upon the release of the second-generation AirPods Pro, the AirPods Max became the oldest current-generation AirPods product still in Apple's lineup."
AirPods 2 were released over a year and a half before the Max, and I don't care that they're not "current", they're still being sold and that's whats important.
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"Skin-Detect Sensors"
Unless you're suggesting they somehow put these in the foam cups, which would be absolutely ridiculous, a skin detection censor would be absolutely pointless since the metal and plastic of the actual Max's never touch your ear, unlike the AirPods Pro.
 
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Important features not mentioned:

1. Lossless.

2. Studio quality so narrators, producers, engineers, audiophiles, movie and music studios can ditch ugly headphone models.

3. AirPlay standard. Sorry but Bluetooth is the new Intel and moving slower than Apple. So Apple needs to start putting AirPlay first and pushing it like it did iPod or iPhone.
Maybe video and print ads that have the added text "with AirPlay".
(Yes, I know Apple products already support AirPlay but this should be a customer awareness campaign.

If Apple can price them at $399 they could become the new high-end audio standard and take down the big guys like Watch did with Rolex. Again, we have to be realistic. People seem to want all features possible but at half the price. $399 sits well but Apple will have to take a profit cut.
Yeah, no.
First of all, in what world has the Apple Watch replaced Rolex?
Rolex is a collector‘s item, people buy them as jewelry not as actual time pieces. And guess what? They still sell. For a lot of money.
Lossless over AirPlay is still not truly lossless, and also has tons of latency issues.
Bluetooth might be limited, but the amount of Latency has been reduced to almost nothing with the current AirPods and AirPods Max lineup..
With airplay, the latency (for me at least) with only audio is still anywhere from 2-4seconds.
Sure, for streaming one track or a playlist, it’s fine. For actually fluidly using a device, jumping from one piece of audio to another, it’s awful.
If you’re a low-vision Voiceover user like me, it’s downright unusable.
The current AirPods Max can play 24 bit 48 kHz files over the wire, with very minimal loss. Certainly much less loss than you would get over Wi-Fi or airplay.
And finally, studios will absolutely never use AirPods.
No matter how good they are, AirPods have things like dynamic equalization and already are set to Apple’s custom sound profile.
Absolutely fantastic for just listening to music, but for actual music production, most studios require completely flat headphones. No equalization, no special machine learning technology, no active noise cancellation, nothing that can get in the way of the pure audio.
And sorry, Apple‘s not gonna make a headphone like that, a headphone that most customers would find to be lackluster because they don’t like flat sound.
And certainly none of this would come with a price reduction
 
In other words, “Don’t buy AirPods Max until second generation is launched”.
I wouldn’t say this, we just saw the AirPods Pro go three years without an update, and the max aren’t even a full two years old yet.
It could be another year plus before we see these updated.
There are some great deals out there, recently saw these for something like $380.
If you want them, get them. No reason to wait for something that might be years away.
 
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I will no longer buy any products from Apple that ships with a lightning port today. It’s a technical gaffe at this point.
 
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It still baffles me how many people here care so much about USB-C. I prefer Lightning, but whether they use one connector or another is down there in my list of priorities.
 
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