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I'll look for you in my rear view mirror of my Tesla Model 3 Performance 2018

Buh buh buh you're not a car enthusiast! Amen man. Once you own an EV everyone else revving their motors starts to feel like that annoying lifted pickup truck with big wheels and the confederate flag hanging off the back blowing diesel smoke clouds at red lights. lol
 
CarPlay is nice but it takes away from the experience of some of these newer UI's which have gotten significantly better....and more aesthetically pleasing.
 
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As someone who has children....this is dramatic. You don't even have to remember to do this as your brain simply tells you after buckling in to think of your destination and say to yourself - time to set the waypoint. If your children are an issue with mapping once you sit in the drivers seat....you aren't going anywhere anyways. Besides, Tesla's nav pre-plans all supercharger stops which Apple Maps isn't doing for me. I'll take that over being able to map my final destination from the toilet before departure.
It's a small point but it's nice not to deal with it. And I didn't realize it until I sold the Tesla and had a car that synced it automatically.
 
The Model Y compares more closely in size to the Mercedes-Benz GLC and BMW X3, both of which weigh a bit less.
in pure length sure, but cargo size and carrying capacity its more align with the x5 and gle thanks to not having an engine and a transmission.
 
Sure the Plaid is crazy fast, but it'll no doubt be a soulless, clinical drive if it's just a faster version of the dual motor S, which is how I felt when I had a shot of one a few years back.

Telsa make cool cars, and electric cars are great in their own ways too, but personally I just like the whole pomp and circumstance around my V8 that just can't be replicated with an electric car.
If you live in Los Angeles, I’m happy to give you a ride in our plaid. I went from a v8 to it and it has plenty of soul, but from the suspension and driving characteristics.

Funny enough with its AI based self driving, there is actually an argument that it literally has a soul. Lol
 
We recently started looking for my wife’s new company car (here in the UK).

The 2 things at the top of my wife’s must haves were space and EV range (she currently has a Hyundai Kona EV.

We tested the EQA & EQB, followed by the Model Y.

That evening, we were chewing the fat about the cars and deciding what to try next, when I asked here “What’s in your list of cars, that will give you more than the Tesla?”.

On her 1st and 2nd must have features the Tesla won hands down, but when you then add the Tesla supercharger network into the mix and it dawned on both of us that the answer to my question, was literally no.

The supercharger network I think was what sealed the deal, as it removes a hell of a lot of anxiety from day to day planning, let alone cross country or planning a trip to Europe.

I was pretty convinced she’d end up with a Mercedes, because, well, it’s a Mercedes, but once you‘ve experienced driving a Tesla, it’s tough not to place the order IMHO.
I was a passenger in a Tesla for the first time last week. Uber. It was... okay.
Wife and I are in the compact SUV world right now, because some of that space not in your typical sedan is needed. We also realize in the next six years I think 60% of any model car in Canada must be electric, then 100% five years after.

So, that probably gives us a decade to really stress about it. We don't drive much as we both work from home, so when those trips to the gas station do occur, it's about once a month tops.

Anyway, I thought I'd ask the driver what he thought of the Tesla after a year, and he really liked it.. saying he gets about 400km per charge, about 30 km less than advertised.
Questioning him on the range in winter due to cold, and suggested it was likely another 50km less (It doesn't get significantly cold in southern Ontario), but bigger issue was poor handling in the snow.
Also looked a bit weird that he needed to mount his phone for Uber, with maps running, because none of that was integrated in to Tesla.

Alright, but I don't drive for Uber. Maybe I've still got some interest? Nightmare of getting in to a frozen handled Tesla stories aside...

But I've got a lot of questions on how any of this transition is going to happen... There's a huge tax on gasoline in Canada that I presume funds roads. A network of heavier electric vehicles surely is going to eat up already crumbling asphalt faster, and where will funds come to repair that road? Presuming it's at some point going to be higher electric tax.

Electrical infrastructure? Demand will increase. What sort of situation will we be in regarding electrical grid stress?

It has me wondering if solar panels on our house is a better investment first and foremost.
 
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My car is pretty factory spec, and I'm definitely not an ass who would seek to disrupt or otherwise be inconsiderate to neighbours or other road users. Within my estate, all neighbours I've met have been highly complimentary of my car.

Your claim of "precisely nobody is impressed with V8s anymore" is a bit off. If you're not impressed then that's cool, you do you, but I can say with certainty there are plenty of people who still like and love ICE cars.
I have always been impressed by older cars in great condition. Lots of us have owned those cars, and they bring back memories. Most drivers of those cars are like you; no desire to show off. I traded my 2013 Audi S5 for a Model 3 in 2018. Similar tires and handling, better acceleration, much better navigation, no cost to charge at Superchargers and full self driving.
 
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If you live in Los Angeles, I’m happy to give you a ride in our plaid. I went from a v8 to it and it has plenty of soul, but from the suspension and driving characteristics.

Funny enough with its AI based self driving, there is actually an argument that it literally has a soul. Lol
Thanks, I do appreciate that but I'm in the UK, would be a bit of a trek over to Los Angeles 😭

My gripe is probably more that the Tesla is just a solid modern car, with lots of electrical systems that are constantly enhancing the drive for the everyday motorist, I feel "disconnected" for lack of a better word. I just like a bit more engagement in my drive. I'd say the same about a modern ICE BMW too, there's nothing engaging around driving them anymore.
 
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I was a passenger in a Tesla for the first time last week. Uber. It was... okay.
Wife and I are in the compact SUV world right now, because some of that space not in your typical sedan is needed. We also realize in the next six years I think 60% of any model car in Canada must be electric, then 100% five years after.

So, that probably gives us a decade to really stress about it. We don't drive much as we both work from home, so when those trips to the gas station do occur, it's about once a month tops.

Anyway, I thought I'd ask the driver what he thought of the Tesla after a year, and he really liked it.. saying he gets about 400km per charge, about 30 km less than advertised.
Questioning him on the range in winter due to cold, and suggested it was likely another 50km less (It doesn't get significantly cold in southern Ontario), but bigger issue was poor handling in the snow.
Also looked a bit weird that he needed to mount his phone for Uber, with maps running, because none of that was integrated in to Tesla.

To be fair, any Uber driver will have a phone mount because that's how they choose which jobs to pick up.

Electrical infrastructure? Demand will increase. What sort of situation will we be in regarding electrical grid stress?

It has me wondering if solar panels on our house is a better investment first and foremost.

Unless we get a magical transformation where ICE cars are instantly replaced with EVs overnight, electric demand and the grid that supplies it will grow organically as it has for a century.
 
I have always been impressed by older cars in great condition. Lots of us have owned those cars, and they bring back memories. Most drivers of those cars are like you; no desire to show off. I traded my 2013 Audi S5 for a Model 3 in 2018. Similar tires and handling, better acceleration, much better navigation, no cost to charge at Superchargers and full self driving.
Yup, this is me. I have a 20 year old Maserati 4200 with the F136-R 4.2 V8. For its age, it's in excellent condition, and definitely been well looked after by its previous owners. I hope to hang on to it for the foreseeable future, and just enjoy the time I'll have with it - it's something I have for the pure pleasure of it, rather than a tool or necessity.

I totally get the advantages of modern cars, everything you listed there is totally valid, but they're just not for me.
 
I was a passenger in a Tesla for the first time last week. Uber. It was... okay.
Wife and I are in the compact SUV world right now, because some of that space not in your typical sedan is needed. We also realize in the next six years I think 60% of any model car in Canada must be electric, then 100% five years after.

So, that probably gives us a decade to really stress about it. We don't drive much as we both work from home, so when those trips to the gas station do occur, it's about once a month tops.

Anyway, I thought I'd ask the driver what he thought of the Tesla after a year, and he really liked it.. saying he gets about 400km per charge, about 30 km less than advertised.
Questioning him on the range in winter due to cold, and suggested it was likely another 50km less (It doesn't get significantly cold in southern Ontario), but bigger issue was poor handling in the snow.
Also looked a bit weird that he needed to mount his phone for Uber, with maps running, because none of that was integrated in to Tesla.

Alright, but I don't drive for Uber. Maybe I've still got some interest? Nightmare of getting in to a frozen handled Tesla stories aside...

But I've got a lot of questions on how any of this transition is going to happen... There's a huge tax on gasoline in Canada that I presume funds roads. A network of heavier electric vehicles surely is going to eat up already crumbling asphalt faster, and where will funds come to repair that road? Presuming it's at some point going to be higher electric tax.

Electrical infrastructure? Demand will increase. What sort of situation will we be in regarding electrical grid stress?

It has me wondering if solar panels on our house is a better investment first and foremost.
compared the curb weight of a model 3 to a gas sedan equivalent, its about the same, also true for model y and all the weight up to the x. gas price was probably the biggest incentive for me to switch to tesla, charging off peak at home gets me 300 miles range for 5 bucks at 5 cents per kwh, where my previous merc costed me around 60-70 bucks per tank.
 
Thanks, I do appreciate that but I'm in the UK, would be a bit of a trek over to Los Angeles 😭

My gripe is probably more that the Tesla is just a solid modern car, with lots of electrical systems that are constantly enhancing the drive for the everyday motorist, I feel "disconnected" for lack of a better word. I just like a bit more engagement in my drive. I'd say the same about a modern ICE BMW too, there's nothing engaging around driving them anymore.
That’s fair, I remember feeling that way when we switched from carburetors to fuel injection. One more computer thing that’s hard to work on. Traction control also takes the skill out of driving high-performance vehicles.
 
It's not happening. And it's really not needed. Tesla and other vehicles are going to end up with apps in the vehicle for the services that are needed.

CarPlay and Android auto were created because car infotainment systems sucked and still do suck from most manufactures. That is going to change with the connected and updatable car.
It'll never happen because Tesla wants you to subscribe to their connected services.
 
I can’t believe all the people that waste their time with such useless comments. If you don’t own a Tesla or don’t care about Tesla then move on. Those rude comments are so not useful. What is wrong with some people and guessing they have nothing better to do than criticize?

Mod - please delete all these useless comments.
 
I can’t believe all the people that waste their time with such useless comments. If you don’t own a Tesla or don’t care about Tesla then move on. Those rude comments are so not useful. What is wrong with some people and guessing they have nothing better to do than criticize?

Mod - please delete all these useless comments.
Some people have confused not liking electric cars with having a personality. It's really odd. We've been an EV household for quite a while now and the number of total strangers in parking lots who volunteer truly absurd commentary on how awful our car is or why they would never buy an EV is something else.
 
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compared the curb weight of a model 3 to a gas sedan equivalent, its about the same, also true for model y and all the weight up to the x. gas price was probably the biggest incentive for me to switch to tesla, charging off peak at home gets me 300 miles range for 5 bucks at 5 cents per kwh, where my previous merc costed me around 60-70 bucks per tank.
Man, off peak in southern ca is 22 cents per KWh. Where do you get 5 cents?
 
That’s fair, I remember feeling that way when we switched from carburetors to fuel injection. One more computer thing that’s hard to work on. Traction control also takes the skill out of driving high-performance vehicles.
Ah, I don't think I've driven a carburetor-fed car before, will watch out for an opportunity though!

I generally keep TCS on for everyday driving, especially in the wet. I can feel it kicking in now and then, but until I build my confidence in the car (I've not had it too long), I'll keep it on.
 
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Let the Tesla hate posts commence… While we wait to praise an inferior Apple Car.
As long as the demon that is Elon Musk is in charge, I will not support that company.

Also, "Bioweapon Defense Mode" is the dumbest feature I've heard yet, and is definitely some crap that Elon made up because he thought it sounded cool, like "Blaze Your Glory!" He is officially the most cringe human on Earth. Nobody else is even remotely close.
 
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Some people have confused not liking electric cars with having a personality. It's really odd. We've been an EV household for quite a while now and the number of total strangers in parking lots who volunteer truly absurd commentary on how awful our car is or why they would never buy an EV is something else.
That's a shame you have to put up with that. Personally I couldn't think of any reason why I'd criticise a total strangers car.
 
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