its definitely not a gimmick, its HEPA filter was instrumental when we got hit with that canadian wildfire smug down here in nyc. mercedes's air balance is the only other eqvaulent as far as i'm aware.
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We live in a rural area in the deep south and anti-EV FUD is a way of life for people as they've mentally connected EV ownership with being a carpet bagging California liberal which is basically public enemy #1 and the lowest of the low. I've even been pulled over by a local police officer who was specifically stopping me to tell me that my car could catch fire at any moment and there's nothing the fire department can do other than watch it burn.
We also hear a lot about how we're driving a coal-powered car which I guess is kind of true, but coal is only 17% of our local power mix. Another thing people volunteer is how bad batteries are for the environment, which is amusing as apparently local coal rolling ding dongs care about the environment now.
Basically, driving an EV in the south is quite an adventure.
I've owned many vehicles and Tesla UI is by far the best I have ever experienced and its not even close. automakers are sorely lacking when it comes to UI... and I do agree that most of them would benefit from having car play handle that for them... But in my opinion Tesla is not one of them, as their UI is already pretty great. Again my personal opinion.
Edit - Worth mentioning that I have the newer refreshed Model X with a AMD RDNA 2-based GPU which I understand is a huge upgrade over the chips in the older models. I don't know how much this has to do with my experience as its my first and only Tesla.
Haha, I wish. I've got an EQE and the Air Balance option is just the fragrance. There's a separate HEPA filter option which I didn't spec. I don't smell NJ anymore but I can still get the pollution just fine.
Volvo has the "Clean Zone" which is a HEPA filter. During the orange wildfire days in NYC, my Volvo showed the indoor and outdoor air quality in PM2.5 and it was effective at cleaning it.
really, i thought the air balance was standard, well that sucks, good thing i didn't get the gle. tesla also uses the biggest HEPA filter in the industry. so you only need to replace it every 3 years.
It's pretty weak to make your buying decisions based on the ramblings and musings of one person. the company is run by 100s of thousands of employees, but I will totally ignore their product because their CEO rubs me the wrong way? lol come on.
and I am assuming you've never been in a Tesla because Bioweapon defense mode is absolutely legit. the HEPA filter works great keeping out toxic air.. it helped us greatly a few months ago when the city was covered in smog from the Canadian fires.... There's also a video on youtube where they put a Tesla in a bubble and fill it with red smoke, but none of it gets in to the car..... I won't even bother to link it though because it seems your mind is made up... you don't like 1 person involved with the company so that must mean the product is trash.
im curious do you have the HW3 or HW4 package. i also got the ryzen chip in my Y but with the HW3.
I have the HW3 package... I think HW4 just recently started rolling out this summer.
My neighbor got his y 2 months ago and he has the HW4, the camera quality is 🤌🤌 however Im not sure if that translates to improved autopilot
The camera quality itself probably doesn't... But I've read that processor upgrade with HW4 will greatly improve AP once the software catches up.
The only saving grace I have is hw3 got 16gb ram while Tesla only put 8gb on the hw4 😁
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Which sounds like a go-to defense of someone who doesn't get why people might want CarPlay on a Tesla.
Tesla maps and navigation is quite good and includes integration with the charging systems to help manage navigation to charging spots. CarPlay can include that information if the manufacturer is willing to include that in its CarPlay connector. Both are helpful in those cases where your navigation needs to include charging. For daily driving where charging is not needed, such integration is less important.
Beyond that, CarPlay provides a level of personalization and privacy that Tesla will not. Our phones are our personal information centers. Our contacts, call history, email, etc are there are those do not need to be shared with the car, but can be starting points for navigation. If I'm going to a new business across town, I will probably start with a web search on my phone and that will produce a location on my phone. I'd rather just use the phone maps to navigate rather than transferring the location to the car's navigation in a separate step.
For me, I am almost always listing to podcasts while driving and my subscriptions, downloaded episodes, listening history are all on my phone. I don't want to give that up, just to setup a completely separate podcast app on the car (is there even such a thing?). How would I seamlessly transition from listening while walking to listening while driving on the same podcast?
For these situations, Tesla only offers the bluetooth interface but that is very limited. No chapters, no large chapter artwork, no switching feeds, etc. I don't want to have to use the phone screen to manage those things while driving, even at a stop sign. It's not even legal in some jurisdictions.
Those are just a couple of scenarios where not offering CarPlay produces a substandard experience for the driver. If Tesla were to allow phone projection, it would address the need of personalizing the experience without compromising the overall Tesla driving experience.
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Elon Musk is the sole reason I don't own a Tesla right now -- I choose not to give money to a sociopath. Not supporting CarPlay is another. I went with a Mustang Mach-E and don't regret it at all.
I am going to start this by saying I am very happy that Tessa exists and they are certainly a pioneer in EV's and are advancing this space faster and better than anyone else out there. However, just like any business or person, they have their pros and cons and pretending otherwise doesn't help actual discussion or the betterment of technology.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to correlate Telsa making a Siri update to the lack of making an update for CarPlay.
c'mon dude, stop being a troll and make the forums better for everyone
I have dyslexia, it's not terrible, but it makes reading books a challenge. Instead I listen to most of my books and I use Audible. What are my options in a Tesla? Bluetooth. This was released as a feature in vehicles 23 years ago. Does it still work, yes. Is it a great solution compared to the alternatives? No. Tesla knows about good tech experiences, they have taken great pride in this and have garnered the admiration of many (including myself) because of their tech heavy focus. They are so tied in with technology it is hard to know where the car company stops and the tech company begins. However, they obviously have issues with Apple and Android having a part to play in their vehicles. I am not saying it is right or wrong, but it is a glaring omission and one that creates a very poor user experience. If Apple and Tesla actually teamed up, the user experience in a Tesla would be like nothing else in the world and would absolutely be a force of nature. But that is not how Elon or Apple operates. So the consumers are left with no option to allow our smartphones and our tech advanced Tesla to be a seamless experience. So please don't pretend that me having to use my phone for controls and a Bluetooth connection to my insanely tech advanced Tesla is a good user experience or the best that Tesla could do if they really tried.
As I am sure you are well aware of, one of the biggest tech complaints of people with Tesla's is the lack of support for Apple CarPlay and Android Auto. It's not like this fact is a secret or tucked away in some corner of the internet. In fact you don't even have to be "into" Tesla's to know about this obvious omission. Even people who could care less about Android Auto or CarPlay still know that people want it.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to correlate Telsa making a Siri update to the lack of making an update for CarPlay.
c'mon dude, stop being a troll and make the forums better for everyone
many comments discrediting tesla infotainment most likely never driven one, therefore making the assumption that tesla infotainment = everyone else.
sure it doesn't offer the same in depth level of integration as carplay such as your podcast usage behavior, but its miles ahead of other OEM infotainment to the point that i can live without carplay and it functions just as well.
and yes, tesla does have a podcast app. how well it functions i wouldn't know since i don't use it.
Going to have to disagree with you on that. Tesla maps is the worst mapping experience I've ever had.
Apple Maps is years ahead of Tesla maps.
Agree to disagree... Never had an issue with the Tesla onboard map... And I have done some major 1K+ miles road trips, and driven in to Canada... Never had a single issue or mishap with the Tesla map.
So to be fair to you, I also own a Honda CRV and yeah, it's infotainment system UI is pretty bad. I would say worse than Tesla's, because it's ugly as hell, but whenever I've had to use it (I usually don't, thanks CarPlay) I haven't had a problem because the touch targets are large enough and the font size is big and chunky.
The rest of the car is controlled with with physical buttons which is far far far far better than the Tesla touchscreen. The touch targets are WAY too small on it, I've often missed my target and sent the map flying off somewhere else. And then anything other than the standard controls takes you into menu hell. Even a small detail as glancing at the clock requires more than a passing glance as they've opted to just put the clock on top of the map without even putting a background on it. It's like amateur hour. Drives me crazy. You should never be staring at a screen when you're driving. Especially when the Tesla announces it's cutting off safety features because for some reason half the time it doesn't like the roundabout in my neighborhood.
i strongly disagree, i have 2 cracked rims cause apple map told me to make a left turn in the middle of the night where there is no left turn. after that i ditched apple map and used google map exclusively til i got my tesla last year.
If it had CarPlay I’d seriously consider one as city vehicle. But since it doesn’t, that’s a non-starter for me. I don’t care how nice the vehicles are nor how robust the charging network is. No CarPlay no way!
I love your post!! It is exactly what people miss when talking about vehicles!
I think back to my family and the Ford vs Chevy arguments I heard growing up. That was fun banter around personal preferences. Why can't we have the same thing with EV vs CE? Why do people always have to take away the fun?
The CE people know how to trash talk in spades!! Beyond the example above, one that I think is most appropriate here is the classic cars vs modern car debate. While you can't argue that current day race cars are modern technology marvels and they continue to pus the envelope for what is possible, it doesn't mean that someone who enjoys classic big beast cars is going to ever want a Lamborghini. Those two sides could argue all day long about their preferences, but no one is "right" or "wrong". Same with EV and CE.
- Everyone who gets ****hurt over someone downgrading an EV from anything short of a miracle just needs to chill and understand that their ranking system for what makes a vehicle great doesn't have to be everyone's ranking system.
- Conversely, people who like CE need to stop the "get off my lawn" attitude. Whether anyone likes it or not, the CE that they enjoy will eventually be obsolete. All things get replaced and some technology will replace it eventually even if it's not EV's. That is ok, it doesn't make it bad to like it or prefer it, but it also doesn't make it the future.
Don’t usually reply but gotta say wife got a Model 3 last month and I’m shockingly impressed. Yes full self drive is not named correctly but I also am not paying for it. The touchscreen is miles ahead of CarPlay; sorry it just is And has Apple Music so no loss. Instant power and control are ahead of any car I have ever driven…including sports cars costing twice as much. The price is about the same as a fully loaded Honda and range is not an issue unless you go out of town for days in the woods. I’m sure most corporate billionaires have weird stuf that they keep private that Musk does not but the car itself is years ahead of anything.
Apple Shortcuts have never worked just right. I use HomeKit with Hoobs raspberry pi and multiple HomeKit certified accessories. HomeKit is always the weak link.
Apple Shortcuts have never worked just right. I use HomeKit with Hoobs raspberry pi and multiple HomeKit certified accessories. HomeKit is always the weak link.
