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If you ask the Tesla owners who wish to to have CarPlay, it's because they want Waze.
I don’t want Waze, my issue is music
Since Tesla is likely to open their own app store, that would negate the only appealing point of CarPlay or Android Auto.
it doesn’t worry me greatly, whoever is supplying the app or the interface
I hadn’t used Apple Music before I had it in my Model 3, but it’s been good
a Carplay-style interface would make it better
 
If you ask the Tesla owners who wish to to have CarPlay, it's because they want Waze.

Since Tesla is likely to open their own app store, that would negate the only appealing point of CarPlay or Android Auto.
Yep, the only reason I ever thought CarPlay would be good addition was for Apple Music and Waze. Apple Music is added now. I know some people don't like the interface but I haven't had issues with it.

Tesla's navigation is mostly seamless. But recently went on a road trip and got stuck in a god-awful jam for miles. Turned on Waze and it directed me through some state highways to get around it. That would have been helpful so if they ever added it to a future Tesla App Store, then that would meet my needs.
 
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Yep, the only reason I ever thought CarPlay would be good addition was for Apple Music and Waze. Apple Music is added now. I know some people don't like the interface but I haven't had issues with it.

Tesla's navigation is mostly seamless. But recently went on a road trip and got stuck in a god-awful jam for miles. Turned on Waze and it directed me through some state highways to get around it. That would have been helpful so if they ever added it to a future Tesla App Store, then that would meet my needs.
Or if they allowed CarPlay you could have access to Waze or Google Maps or Apple Maps that all do that rerouting due to traffic function. Or you may want to use some other app for some other reason. CarPlay just gives you options.
 
Agree to disagree... Never had an issue with the Tesla onboard map... And I have done some major 1K+ miles road trips, and driven in to Canada... Never had a single issue or mishap with the Tesla map.
I missed a flight because I trusted Apple and Google over Tesla. Tesla's GPS was the only one that was trying to route me around a major traffic jam. I checked Apple and Google, and they both said the way I normally went was the fastest. I believed them. But Tesla was right.
 
I missed a flight because I trusted Apple and Google over Tesla. Tesla's GPS was the only one that was trying to route me around a major traffic jam. I checked Apple and Google, and they both said the way I normally went was the fastest. I believed them. But Tesla was right.
Tesla has always been on point for me when it comes to re-routing around traffic jams. and its always super accurate showing upcoming jams on your route.
 
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I’m so sick of these ******** comments. Go audit a community college course on media literacy please.

The percentage of Teslas being involved in accidents compared to how many are on the road is lower than average cars. Teslas are “recalled” over things patched with free software updates. Are you just as upset at the 232k Nissans that were just recalled because their steering wheels will literally decouple from the car?

Absolutely. And electrics are WAAAAAAAY safer even than you allude to. It's not just lower. It's astronomically lower. And each of those fires are WAY safer than gas car fires.

The EV-fire-hurdur is absolute garbage FUD spread (often unwittingly) by people sucking tailpipe of the oil and gas industry.

50,000 gas car fires a year in the US, but what did that latest incendiary (ha!) WaPo article say? “The Washington Post is currently ‘monitoring’ reports of 5 Model S fires.” (In almost a decade.) 🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️

Not only are Tesla fires WAAAAAY less common, but they are SOOOO much safer than a gas car fire!

1. A Tesla battery only has about the energy of about 2gal of gas, versus around 10-15gal in a gas vehicle.

⚡️ : 🔥🔥
⛽️ : 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

2. A battery pack burns very, VERY slowly compared to gasoline. Incredibly more slowly.

There will be tons of smoke and small flames, but the battery pack is so well shielded and contained that it takes a LONG time to release that 2gal's worth of energy.

PLENTY of time to escape the EV (or house if the car's parked in a garage). That's why they keep reignighting for hours, because there’s energy that never burned in the initial fire.

A gas car just goes *FWOOMP* all at once. Your first warning will be far too late to escape. ⛽️🔥💀😬

Edit: Adding an image that reflects the ASTRONOMICAL difference in fire-safety.

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Image source: NTSB data via: https://www.autoinsuranceez.com/gas-vs-electric-car-fires/
 
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Elon is a ****ing loser, but remove him from the equation: I actually like that there’s goofy things in my car.

I share the sentiments about Elon, he’s a societal parasite and an ally/apologist for truly hateful people. That said, homeboy isn’t writing the code or assembling the frame or even designing the car. There are bright, hard working people at Tesla who do some really cool stuff, and they don’t deserve the hate that Elon does.

All that said, it’s ok to dislike Tesla, but getting mad about intense air filtering being called Bioweapon Defense Mode without being mad that a “Dynamic Island” is taking up part of your iPhone screen is hypocritical; it’s just branding, it happens as part of the process, and I’d rather it be called that than AC+ or whatever
Yeah. Elon is Jekyll and Hyde… How do we get rid of his bad side
 
Absolutely. And electrics are WAAAAAAAY safer even than you allude to. It's not just lower. It's astronomically lower. And each of those fires are WAY safer than gas car fires.

The EV-fire-hurdur is absolute garbage FUD spread (often unwittingly) by people sucking tailpipe of the oil and gas industry.

50,000 gas car fires a year in the US, but what did that latest incendiary (ha!) WaPo article say? “The Washington Post is currently ‘monitoring’ reports of 5 Model S fires.” (In almost a decade.) 🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️

Not only are Tesla fires WAAAAAY less common, but they are SOOOO much safer than a gas car fire!

1. A Tesla battery only has about the energy of about 2gal of gas, versus around 10-15gal in a gas vehicle.

⚡️ : 🔥🔥
⛽️ : 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

2. A battery pack burns very, VERY slowly compared to gasoline. Incredibly more slowly.

There will be tons of smoke and small flames, but the battery pack is so well shielded and contained that it takes a LONG time to release that 2gal's worth of energy.

PLENTY of time to escape the EV (or house if the car's parked in a garage). That's why they keep reignighting for hours, because there’s energy that never burned in the initial fire.

A gas car just goes *FWOOMP* all at once. Your first warning will be far too late to escape. ⛽️🔥💀😬

These are all fair points. You're up my neck of the woods so you may remember a few incidents over the last couple of years of Teslas catching fire in Metro Vancouver, trapping the occupants inside. Those were thoroughly investigated and deemed not to be a fault of the powertrain/battery packs but rather some auxiliary components that failed and set fire. It's a good example of both the safety and robustness of EV powertrains and the shabby build quality of the Fremont Trabants.
 
There is no correlation whatsoever. Siri Shortcuts and CarPlay are two completely different services that only have one thing in common: they were both invented by Apple.
Second thing they have in common: They involve Tesla in this specific case
Third thing they have in common: People hear Tesla and Apple and the first thing they think is CarPlay
Fourth thing they have in common: You have proven to be a troll and are now on ignore
 
If you ask the Tesla owners who wish to to have CarPlay, it's because they want Waze.

Since Tesla is likely to open their own app store, that would negate the only appealing point of CarPlay or Android Auto.
I do not want Waze. I do want:
  • Better Siri integration.
  • Better texting.
  • Access to my playlists.
  • Access to Apple Maps.
  • Access to ABRP.
  • Hands free access.
 
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Along the I-95 corridor, sure. Getting from Florida to Maine is not an issue.

There are a lot of people who don't live in the world you inhabit. It's a big country. In a majority of it, EV infrastructure sucks.

If an EV works for you, that's great. I'm glad you're happy with it. There are all kinds of arguments over the environmental impact of EVs (Mining rare earth metals, electrical generation, wear and tear on roads and tires due to EV weight) vs gas powered vehicles.

But it's not for everyone everywhere yet. Not by a long shot.
There was a time when gasoline stations were few and far between. Now look at 'em.
 
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Along the I-95 corridor, sure. Getting from Florida to Maine is not an issue.

There are a lot of people who don't live in the world you inhabit. It's a big country. In a majority of it, EV infrastructure sucks.

If an EV works for you, that's great. I'm glad you're happy with it. There are all kinds of arguments over the environmental impact of EVs (Mining rare earth metals, electrical generation, wear and tear on roads and tires due to EV weight) vs gas powered vehicles.

But it's not for everyone everywhere yet. Not by a long shot.
Do you have an EV? Have you planned a trip in an EV? Have you used an EV in a remote area?

Unless you can say yes to all of those questions, you should probably be quiet. Your assumptions are showing.
 
I charge 240v at home, and I’ve driven Florida to Maine using Superchargers. Non Teslas have a **** time charging, but the Supercharger network isn’t “getting there”, it’s there.
Just drove from Minneapolis to the U.P. There is a Supercharger now in the middle of Wisconsin off of some state highway, not a fancy Interstate. Rivian charger up in Calumet along with two CCS1 fast chargers in Houghton.
 
Most of these Siri shortcuts could already be used if a third-party app (like Stats) were to be installed. Granted, the Stats app is expensive, so with this newest Tesla app update, a need in the Stats app is all but gone. Except one very useful thing: Tesla still has no Apple Watch app, while Stats does, which allows for the Apple watch to be used as a car key. I don't understand why a high-tech company like Tesla can't get their act together and put its app on the Apple Watch? This is such an important feature to be able to use your Tesla (open it and start it) when your Phone dies.
You have a small credit size keycard that will get you going. And you can put a pin passcode on the car to prevent driving away.
 
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Sure the Plaid is crazy fast, but it'll no doubt be a soulless, clinical drive if it's just a faster version of the dual motor S, which is how I felt when I had a shot of one a few years back.

Telsa make cool cars, and electric cars are great in their own ways too, but personally I just like the whole pomp and circumstance around my V8 that just can't be replicated with an electric car.
Yep, 1.99 0 to 60 is fast. The plaid isn’t a track car but imo that not it’s point. I bought a long range model 3. 4.61 0 to 60 is fast enough and to me it drives amazingly well for a 4500 lb car. With the federal tax credit, the state tax credit, the credit from the power company and no sales tax, it made this purchase a no-brainer.
 
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Bioweapon Defense Mode

Wow - I am glad I live in a city with good air quality :D
I live in a region of the US that is south of Canada, a country that is suffering from massive forest fires and the jet stream is causing dust and particles to travel at least as far south as my state (Nebraska) and we’ve had numerous air quality alerts issued because of this. And this year in Nebraska isn’t having a lot of fires in the state (this year, we’ve had massive grass fires that have also caused serious health and air quality problems in the past) and I have actually used my biohazard mode and it is a very noticeable improvement over regular air filters.

For decades Apple computers had been (and somewhat still are) denigrated for not being “real” computers. Nice to see that Apples users now have the option of being just as prejudiced and ignorant as many Windows users have traditionally been about Mac computers.
 
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More misinformation about charging. Not much different than planning bathroom breaks, meal breaks and gas stops when driving an ICE on a "long" trip. Tesla's built-in navigation adds Supercharging stops when use it to plan your trip. If you need/want to use other charging networks, you can use an app such as PlugShare or ABRP which allow you to choose different networks/connectors. The only difference is you need to spend a few minutes pre-planning your trip. Such an inconvenience!
While I don't disagree that misinformation abounds when it comes to charging, downplaying the real life experiences of having to operate within the EV world of charging networks VS CE and fuel networks is equally annoying...to me :p

I am a pretty big planner. Most of the people I know don't plan anywhere near as much as I do. Even with the planner I am, I don't plan bathroom breaks. Who even does that? I also don't plan out gas BEFORE I start the trip because I don't have to. There won't be routes in the US where 99.9% of the population have to worry about not having a gas station. I can decide during the trip when I want to get fuel, and that decision is 99% of the time when it is cheapest or more convinenent. It is not yet true for EV's that all routes you would want to drive even have the option to charge, and much of the time you are planning around charging not just charging whenever/wherever you want to (e.g. visiting a shopping mall since it has the closest charger).

Also, while it does on a very rare occasion happen where you go to a gas station and you can't get gas because it is unexpectedly closed or there is a problem, it happens so infrequently that for most people it wouldn't be on their radar. However, anyone who owns a non-Tesla EV knows the feeling they get when they pull up to a charger. Depending on your SoC you can be anywhere between betting on your favorite sports team for extra spending money to praying for the ball to land on black because your going to have your kneecap taken out if you are too low on your charge. Either way, always a gamble (I will admit it is constantly getting better).

Lastly, my dad was a "get to where you are going" type guy, so growing up we didn't stop for food or for the bathroom 🤣 we packed food and only stopped to use the bathroom when we got gas. I know not everyone travels that way, but no matter how you travel EV's add more time and effort to a trip. For me, I don't care and it isn't a big deal. For others it might be. Please don't swing the pendulum the other way when people provide misinformation about charging. No it is not the nightmare so many people make it out to be. No, unless you are an idiot you don't have to constantly be worrying about how much charge you have. But YES it is not nearly as smooth or seamless as gas is to CE vehicles.
 
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I do not want Waze. I do want:
  • Better Siri integration.
  • Better texting.
  • Access to my playlists.
  • Access to Apple Maps.
  • Access to ABRP.
  • Hands free access.

I also could care less about Waze and second almost everything on your list and would add Audible. Also, I mourn the lack of a native experience for iMessage and Calendar, especially when I bounce back and forth between vehicles (my other one has CarPlay).
 
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