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The lack of CarPlay, especially the future version of it, is probably the main reason I'm not looking at Tesla when replacing my current EV next year. Polestar, BMW or Mustang are all more likely candidates.
I love my Model 3. But, when the lease is up in December, I will not be replacing it with a Tesla. Lack of CarPlay, buggy software, updates that consistently reset all my settings, ride quality, lower than advertised mileage, $6K for glorified cruise control, a messy interface that displays critical messages and camera turn images behind my right hand while on the wheel and a now dated look have me exploring other options.
 
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I love my Model 3. But, when the lease is up in December, I will not be replacing it with a Tesla. Lack of CarPlay, buggy software, updates that consistently reset all my settings, ride quality, lower than advertised mileage, $6K for glorified cruise control, a messy interface that displays critical messages and camera turn images behind my right hand while on the wheel and a now dated look have me exploring other options.
Interesting. Mine has been super reliable. I don’t think I’ve lost any settings due to an update since I bought the car 3 years ago. All the new features that have been added are great. The map interface I find better than the Apple car play experience I’ve used.

I find it funny how everyone is mad at Musk for not supporting Apple Car Play when Apple has notoriously been the epitome of a closed system company. Haha
 
Nope. The Tesla UI is miles better than CarPlay. It's really not even close.

What all you Apple stans don't realize is that vehicle manufacturers are only using CarPlay as a temporary measure. They are going to eventually want full control of the in-car experience so it can be monetized, especially once self-driving becomes a real thing.

You'll be buying things like video content, games and apps through their own stores. The built-in maps will have location-based advertising. They won't want Apple to make $ off their passengers. Elon already realized this.

The new CarPlay they just revealed looks all nice and shiny but manufacturers are soon going to find out that it's tough selling a $70K vehicle when it has the same UI look & feel as a $30K car. Also good luck waiting for new features for your vehicle because you'll only get them when Apple brings them to every other vehicle via CarPlay. Where a company like Tesla or Rivian can push new features whenever they want via OTA updates.
You clearly have never developed software. No one wants to learn yet another SDK and development process. Hence AA and CP are so big. It gives developers a single ecosystem to develop for.
 
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The lack of CarPlay, especially the future version of it, is probably the main reason I'm not looking at Tesla when replacing my current EV next year. Polestar, BMW or Mustang are all more likely candidates.
You should give Tesla infotainment a try before writing it off. Unless you must have Waze, I'm not seeing what you would be missing with Tesla. Also putting destination into Tesla is so much faster than having to get the phone out and enter address in CarPlay. Tesla's POI look up speed is impressive.
 
Regarding this issue it seams to be less than a dick than Apple. I wonder if Apple would allow Android on an iPhone … lolol.

It will be interesting to see how manufacturers react to Car Dash.

It’s well known that users would benefit from more interop and less walls between ecosystems. But Apple itself has been the wall building champ using Privacy to intimidate people.

This is not even close to a reasonable comparison. Android is an entire OS that controls every aspect of the device it runs on and had to be coded for each device/platform.

CarPlay is a protocol/feature that allows iPhone to us the car's in-dash display as a second display along with the related input systems (touch, buttons, dials). CarPlay does not in any way control the car other than volume settings.
In this sense, for your comparison, you CAN run Android on iPhone since you can run it in a web browser or use remote screen sharing via any number of apps.
 
It's a shame Elon is such a dick, I'd love native CarPlay in my care, the Tesla system is rubbish.
No, it is not. What is rubbish is software on top a software that Apple offers as a solution instead of partnering with top car manufacturers and work on deep iPhone integration into the car systems.
 
What all you Apple stans don't realize is that vehicle manufacturers are only using CarPlay as a temporary measure. They are going to eventually want full control of the in-car experience so it can be monetized, especially once self-driving becomes a real thing.

Apple is moving beyond CarPlay to Apple dash. Monetizing the dash is likely to be in subscriptions from amnufacturers and customizations. Apple Dash would fit well with taht.

You'll be buying things like video content, games and apps through their own stores. The built-in maps will have location-based advertising. They won't want Apple to make $ off their passengers. Elon already realized this.

If Apple comes out with a CarPlay App Store I bet they negotiate revenue sharing with the manufacturers; or reduced licensing costs.

The new CarPlay they just revealed looks all nice and shiny but manufacturers are soon going to find out that it's tough selling a $70K vehicle when it has the same UI look & feel as a $30K car.

A UI they are used to. We already have that as a holdover from the analog days. Companies could stil customize the dash, much as BMW did with BMW Red lighting, for example.

Also good luck waiting for new features for your vehicle because you'll only get them when Apple brings them to every other vehicle via CarPlay. Where a company like Tesla or Rivian can push new features whenever they want via OTA updates.

There is a big advantage to a standard interface that users are familiar with.

I agree with you that if the car makers give their cockpits to Apple & Google, we will gradually end up with very standardised screens in every car, either with CarPlay or Google Auto variant.

Which is a good thing for users since there is no need to relearn it for every vehicle.

However, looking at the hot mess of an infotainment system that the brand new VW ID3 came with, this uniformity might not be so bad. After all, by now everyone who has a smartphone is quite familiar with iOS or Android basics, and the two OSs are actually quite close.

It also saves the manufacturers development costs while getting a product that has been in use for a while so fewer bugs are likely to crop up.

Another issue is that the car makers will still need to have some sort of an infotainment preinstalled, so the car can also be used by people without smartphones.

More likely tighter integration with smartphones as well as ability to use it without one.
 
Nope. The Tesla UI is miles better than CarPlay. It's really not even close.

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The new CarPlay they just revealed looks all nice and shiny but manufacturers are soon going to find out that it's tough selling a $70K vehicle when it has the same UI look & feel as a $30K car. Also good luck waiting for new features for your vehicle because you'll only get them when Apple brings them to every other vehicle via CarPlay. Where a company like Tesla or Rivian can push new features whenever they want via OTA updates.
I also don't get all these people clammoring for CarPlay.

Previous car was BMW where its iDrive was widely recognized as best infotainment system in the business. To enter a POI, or god forbid, an address, took about endless taps (Home, Nav, Search, Country, City, Zip, Street Name, Intersection, etc). On Tesla it's direct search with auto-complete, engine seems identical to google, traffic-based routing, etc.

Media navigation is also incomparable. It's like using Windows CE on a phone vs todays Android/iOS.

On other cars ive tried, CarPlay and Android Apple were an improvement on the factory system, but even then the graphics and scaling were pretty terrible.

Don't understand what people find lacking with Tesla's UI, but everyone has an opinion.
 
I love my Model 3. But, when the lease is up in December, I will not be replacing it with a Tesla. Lack of CarPlay, buggy software, updates that consistently reset all my settings, ride quality, lower than advertised mileage, $6K for glorified cruise control, a messy interface that displays critical messages and camera turn images behind my right hand while on the wheel and a now dated look have me exploring other options.
Good luck trying to find something with the same range as a model 3 for the same price. Nothing exists, at least here in Australia. The equivalent Audi is double the price. Anything close to the same price has nowhere near the range and performance or is worse still, a hybrid :/

I’ve only driven a couple of hire cars with Car play, but it was pretty intuitive on a tiny little screen. But it’s nowhere near the same as using the Tesla UI which is miles ahead IMO.
 
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I find it funny how everyone is mad at Musk for not supporting Apple Car Play when Apple has notoriously been the epitome of a closed system company. Haha

In-housing their manufacturing and development, compared to traditional auto, is also why they've been such a success and standout in the industry. They're able to iterate changes better than anyone else.

Having to design controls around- or in-conjunction with the CarPlay interface is not what Tesla wants to do.

The vertical / systems integration of Apple is what makes them and their usability such a success. Surprising that Apple fans don't recognize the same logic when Tesla is using it.
 
Nope. The Tesla UI is miles better than CarPlay. It's really not even close.

What all you Apple stans don't realize is that vehicle manufacturers are only using CarPlay as a temporary measure. They are going to eventually want full control of the in-car experience so it can be monetized, especially once self-driving becomes a real thing.

You'll be buying things like video content, games and apps through their own stores. The built-in maps will have location-based advertising. They won't want Apple to make $ off their passengers. Elon already realized this.

The new CarPlay they just revealed looks all nice and shiny but manufacturers are soon going to find out that it's tough selling a $70K vehicle when it has the same UI look & feel as a $30K car. Also good luck waiting for new features for your vehicle because you'll only get them when Apple brings them to every other vehicle via CarPlay. Where a company like Tesla or Rivian can push new features whenever they want via OTA updates.
Big whoop. If a car ui is what makes the car 70 vs 30. Then bring out uniformity and make car costs be based on actual car hardware.

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The reason Musk doesn’t do it is because Tesla is a data company. Everytime you drive or play something it goes back to Tesla and is sent back to them. Autonomous driving improvements…
 
tesla has nowhere near the technical competence to put together an app store. just look at how buggy their infotainment system is.
What exactly is buggy about the infotainment system? I've had a Model 3 SR+ for nearly a year now, and buggy has not been my experience. However, Tesla changing up the UI and screwing up ergonomics (I'm looking at you, December 2021 update) -- that'd I'd agree with.
 
The new CarPlay they just revealed looks all nice and shiny but manufacturers are soon going to find out that it's tough selling a $70K vehicle when it has the same UI look & feel as a $30K car.

The new CarPlay revealed was just a generic example of what is coming. The various participating automakers will still be able to customize the UI to their brand.
 
>> The system works while driving, and can also be controlled with the media buttons on the Tesla's steering wheel.

How would this even work whilst driving? It is browser based, and the browser closes whist in drive. There isn’t even background audio…
 
Elon's being a bit of a spoilt child. If he can't afford it he disses it. I'm glad Apple's too expensive for him. He'd make a right mess of what Job's left behind. Shame Apple didn't buy Tesla when they were close to going under.
CarPlay is free to license to automakers. No cost required, and the connection is fairly straightforward, as is evidenced by a third party developer building the screen-casting interfaces we see here.
 
I also don't get all these people clammoring for CarPlay.

Previous car was BMW where its iDrive was widely recognized as best infotainment system in the business. To enter a POI, or god forbid, an address, took about endless taps (Home, Nav, Search, Country, City, Zip, Street Name, Intersection, etc). On Tesla it's direct search with auto-complete, engine seems identical to google, traffic-based routing, etc.

Media navigation is also incomparable. It's like using Windows CE on a phone vs todays Android/iOS.

On other cars ive tried, CarPlay and Android Apple were an improvement on the factory system, but even then the graphics and scaling were pretty terrible.

Don't understand what people find lacking with Tesla's UI, but everyone has an opinion.
iDrive as the best? You are being sarcastic or is that a typo and you meant worst since your example shows how horrible it was (before my Teslas I had a couple BMWs).

Teslas UI is better than most although the last update was a step back in functionality. Still really want at least Apple Music and would love CarPla.
 
I love that the people who are so outraged that Tesla doesn’t support CarPlay don’t have a problem with Apple not letting iPhones run Android.
That doesn’t make any sense. The two are not equivalent comparisons. Can a Ford be a Chevy or a Mercedes? Of course not. But, all of them can certainly use tires from Continental, Goodyear, etc. And, we’re not outraged. We’re just expressing desires, as consumers, that we’d like something better and more reliable than the systems built by Tesla, Rivian etc. These companies don’t (and shouldn’t) have the resources to create the same quality of mobile applications as companies like Apple or Google.
 
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Worst thing about the Tesla infotainment is the navigation/maps. Would love native Google Maps or Apple Maps instead.
 
I also don't get all these people clammoring for CarPlay.

Previous car was BMW where its iDrive was widely recognized as best infotainment system in the business. To enter a POI, or god forbid, an address, took about endless taps (Home, Nav, Search, Country, City, Zip, Street Name, Intersection, etc). On Tesla it's direct search with auto-complete, engine seems identical to google, traffic-based routing, etc.

I Simply use "Hey Siri" to get directions, paly meia, etc.

Media navigation is also incomparable. It's like using Windows CE on a phone vs todays Android/iOS.

Having used WinCE; I'd say that was a far cry from a usable interface on a phone.

Don't understand what people find lacking with Tesla's UI, but everyone has an opinion.

No opinion on Tesla's UI; just think CarPlay/AppleDash could make significant inroads into car displays.

In-housing their manufacturing and development, compared to traditional auto, is also why they've been such a success and standout in the industry. They're able to iterate changes better than anyone else.

Having to design controls around- or in-conjunction with the CarPlay interface is not what Tesla wants to do.

The vertical / systems integration of Apple is what makes them and their usability such a success. Surprising that Apple fans don't recognize the same logic when Tesla is using it.

I think it's more of a case of Musk wanting to control evverything, much like Job's at Apple. The idea of somebody else having a good idea and adopting it is not his style. It's worked so far.

CarPlay is free to license to automakers. No cost required, and the connection is fairly straightforward, as is evidenced by a third party developer building the screen-casting interfaces we see here.

I installed a 3rd party CarPlay interface into a 2015 MB. Works great. Even with a small iPhone Pro sized screen it is very useful.
 
Nope. The Tesla UI is miles better than CarPlay. It's really not even close.
Dude, you have no idea what you are talking about. I was in my Model 3 last night, waiting to turn, and someone called me. I couldn't answer the phone because the blindspot camera covers up the buttons to answer the phone.

Similarly, I'll often engage reverse as soon as I enter the car. This is what moves the seat forward and turns on the AC. While I'm waiting for the seat to move up, I'll adjust the AC (because the passenger side vent always turns off, no matter what you do). Now the backup camera is gone, and I have to put the car in park, which starts moving the seat back, and then reverse, to get the camera to come back.

Tesla's streaming service is garbage. I was listening to an hour long news program, and after 20 minutes I had to stop and get out of my car. I didn't even take my phone out of the car, but there's no way to leave the car "running". When I got back in minutes later, it started all over again at the beginning, with no way to FFW.

Tesla's UI is absolute garbage.
 
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I understand people wanting Apple Music support. However wanting a gimped OS made for legacy auto OEM's on a Tesla is laughable.
Huh? What’s that even mean? Gimped OS? Sounds like you have no idea what you’re talking about. Funny too, that people think Tesla and Rivian even make their own core operating systems. They don’t. They build (or try to build) fancy user interfaces on top, along with all the requisite applications. Unfortunately they don’t have the resources to go as deep, feature-wise, as either an Apple or a Google. Granted Apple and Google are creating interfaces they think will largely work for everyone, but greater degrees of customization by automakers will likely be coming in the near future. For now, though, that consistency is wonderful. I just recently drove my car, with CarPlay, to the airport. Directions and music and audiobooks all worked beautifully. Got on a flight, landed, got into a rental car and plugged by phone in. Continued using maps, music, audio-books, etc. Everything was easy, consistent and used my data - and provided highly reliable mapping. And, if I wanted to use Google Maps or Waze, I could have. Not sure why Tesla or Rivian would care what I use *iff* they can deliver the experience that isn’t so jarring from a UI standpoint. Considering almost every other car manufacturer has already navigated this landscape, it’s hard to understand the resistance. Incidentally, Volvo’s new car management interface uses Google’s Android as a base OS and they just, this week, announced Apple CarPlay support - which people have been waiting a year for. Older Volvos, which were not based on Android, already supported the CarPlay and Android Auto mirroring capability.
 
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