I love my Model 3. But, when the lease is up in December, I will not be replacing it with a Tesla. Lack of CarPlay, buggy software, updates that consistently reset all my settings, ride quality, lower than advertised mileage, $6K for glorified cruise control, a messy interface that displays critical messages and camera turn images behind my right hand while on the wheel and a now dated look have me exploring other options.The lack of CarPlay, especially the future version of it, is probably the main reason I'm not looking at Tesla when replacing my current EV next year. Polestar, BMW or Mustang are all more likely candidates.
Interesting. Mine has been super reliable. I don’t think I’ve lost any settings due to an update since I bought the car 3 years ago. All the new features that have been added are great. The map interface I find better than the Apple car play experience I’ve used.I love my Model 3. But, when the lease is up in December, I will not be replacing it with a Tesla. Lack of CarPlay, buggy software, updates that consistently reset all my settings, ride quality, lower than advertised mileage, $6K for glorified cruise control, a messy interface that displays critical messages and camera turn images behind my right hand while on the wheel and a now dated look have me exploring other options.
You clearly have never developed software. No one wants to learn yet another SDK and development process. Hence AA and CP are so big. It gives developers a single ecosystem to develop for.Nope. The Tesla UI is miles better than CarPlay. It's really not even close.
What all you Apple stans don't realize is that vehicle manufacturers are only using CarPlay as a temporary measure. They are going to eventually want full control of the in-car experience so it can be monetized, especially once self-driving becomes a real thing.
You'll be buying things like video content, games and apps through their own stores. The built-in maps will have location-based advertising. They won't want Apple to make $ off their passengers. Elon already realized this.
The new CarPlay they just revealed looks all nice and shiny but manufacturers are soon going to find out that it's tough selling a $70K vehicle when it has the same UI look & feel as a $30K car. Also good luck waiting for new features for your vehicle because you'll only get them when Apple brings them to every other vehicle via CarPlay. Where a company like Tesla or Rivian can push new features whenever they want via OTA updates.
You should give Tesla infotainment a try before writing it off. Unless you must have Waze, I'm not seeing what you would be missing with Tesla. Also putting destination into Tesla is so much faster than having to get the phone out and enter address in CarPlay. Tesla's POI look up speed is impressive.The lack of CarPlay, especially the future version of it, is probably the main reason I'm not looking at Tesla when replacing my current EV next year. Polestar, BMW or Mustang are all more likely candidates.
Regarding this issue it seams to be less than a dick than Apple. I wonder if Apple would allow Android on an iPhone … lolol.
It will be interesting to see how manufacturers react to Car Dash.
It’s well known that users would benefit from more interop and less walls between ecosystems. But Apple itself has been the wall building champ using Privacy to intimidate people.
If you like to wire up iPhone every time you get in and out of the car...Check out the KIA EV6 as well.
No, it is not. What is rubbish is software on top a software that Apple offers as a solution instead of partnering with top car manufacturers and work on deep iPhone integration into the car systems.It's a shame Elon is such a dick, I'd love native CarPlay in my care, the Tesla system is rubbish.
Hints in 2020 that Tesla was planning to support Apple Music never came to fruition
What all you Apple stans don't realize is that vehicle manufacturers are only using CarPlay as a temporary measure. They are going to eventually want full control of the in-car experience so it can be monetized, especially once self-driving becomes a real thing.
You'll be buying things like video content, games and apps through their own stores. The built-in maps will have location-based advertising. They won't want Apple to make $ off their passengers. Elon already realized this.
The new CarPlay they just revealed looks all nice and shiny but manufacturers are soon going to find out that it's tough selling a $70K vehicle when it has the same UI look & feel as a $30K car.
Also good luck waiting for new features for your vehicle because you'll only get them when Apple brings them to every other vehicle via CarPlay. Where a company like Tesla or Rivian can push new features whenever they want via OTA updates.
I agree with you that if the car makers give their cockpits to Apple & Google, we will gradually end up with very standardised screens in every car, either with CarPlay or Google Auto variant.
However, looking at the hot mess of an infotainment system that the brand new VW ID3 came with, this uniformity might not be so bad. After all, by now everyone who has a smartphone is quite familiar with iOS or Android basics, and the two OSs are actually quite close.
Another issue is that the car makers will still need to have some sort of an infotainment preinstalled, so the car can also be used by people without smartphones.
I also don't get all these people clammoring for CarPlay.Nope. The Tesla UI is miles better than CarPlay. It's really not even close.
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The new CarPlay they just revealed looks all nice and shiny but manufacturers are soon going to find out that it's tough selling a $70K vehicle when it has the same UI look & feel as a $30K car. Also good luck waiting for new features for your vehicle because you'll only get them when Apple brings them to every other vehicle via CarPlay. Where a company like Tesla or Rivian can push new features whenever they want via OTA updates.
Good luck trying to find something with the same range as a model 3 for the same price. Nothing exists, at least here in Australia. The equivalent Audi is double the price. Anything close to the same price has nowhere near the range and performance or is worse still, a hybrid :/I love my Model 3. But, when the lease is up in December, I will not be replacing it with a Tesla. Lack of CarPlay, buggy software, updates that consistently reset all my settings, ride quality, lower than advertised mileage, $6K for glorified cruise control, a messy interface that displays critical messages and camera turn images behind my right hand while on the wheel and a now dated look have me exploring other options.
I find it funny how everyone is mad at Musk for not supporting Apple Car Play when Apple has notoriously been the epitome of a closed system company. Haha
Big whoop. If a car ui is what makes the car 70 vs 30. Then bring out uniformity and make car costs be based on actual car hardware.Nope. The Tesla UI is miles better than CarPlay. It's really not even close.
What all you Apple stans don't realize is that vehicle manufacturers are only using CarPlay as a temporary measure. They are going to eventually want full control of the in-car experience so it can be monetized, especially once self-driving becomes a real thing.
You'll be buying things like video content, games and apps through their own stores. The built-in maps will have location-based advertising. They won't want Apple to make $ off their passengers. Elon already realized this.
The new CarPlay they just revealed looks all nice and shiny but manufacturers are soon going to find out that it's tough selling a $70K vehicle when it has the same UI look & feel as a $30K car. Also good luck waiting for new features for your vehicle because you'll only get them when Apple brings them to every other vehicle via CarPlay. Where a company like Tesla or Rivian can push new features whenever they want via OTA updates.
What exactly is buggy about the infotainment system? I've had a Model 3 SR+ for nearly a year now, and buggy has not been my experience. However, Tesla changing up the UI and screwing up ergonomics (I'm looking at you, December 2021 update) -- that'd I'd agree with.tesla has nowhere near the technical competence to put together an app store. just look at how buggy their infotainment system is.
The new CarPlay they just revealed looks all nice and shiny but manufacturers are soon going to find out that it's tough selling a $70K vehicle when it has the same UI look & feel as a $30K car.
>> The system works while driving, and can also be controlled with the media buttons on the Tesla's steering wheel.
CarPlay is free to license to automakers. No cost required, and the connection is fairly straightforward, as is evidenced by a third party developer building the screen-casting interfaces we see here.Elon's being a bit of a spoilt child. If he can't afford it he disses it. I'm glad Apple's too expensive for him. He'd make a right mess of what Job's left behind. Shame Apple didn't buy Tesla when they were close to going under.
iDrive as the best? You are being sarcastic or is that a typo and you meant worst since your example shows how horrible it was (before my Teslas I had a couple BMWs).I also don't get all these people clammoring for CarPlay.
Previous car was BMW where its iDrive was widely recognized as best infotainment system in the business. To enter a POI, or god forbid, an address, took about endless taps (Home, Nav, Search, Country, City, Zip, Street Name, Intersection, etc). On Tesla it's direct search with auto-complete, engine seems identical to google, traffic-based routing, etc.
Media navigation is also incomparable. It's like using Windows CE on a phone vs todays Android/iOS.
On other cars ive tried, CarPlay and Android Apple were an improvement on the factory system, but even then the graphics and scaling were pretty terrible.
Don't understand what people find lacking with Tesla's UI, but everyone has an opinion.
That doesn’t make any sense. The two are not equivalent comparisons. Can a Ford be a Chevy or a Mercedes? Of course not. But, all of them can certainly use tires from Continental, Goodyear, etc. And, we’re not outraged. We’re just expressing desires, as consumers, that we’d like something better and more reliable than the systems built by Tesla, Rivian etc. These companies don’t (and shouldn’t) have the resources to create the same quality of mobile applications as companies like Apple or Google.I love that the people who are so outraged that Tesla doesn’t support CarPlay don’t have a problem with Apple not letting iPhones run Android.
I also don't get all these people clammoring for CarPlay.
Previous car was BMW where its iDrive was widely recognized as best infotainment system in the business. To enter a POI, or god forbid, an address, took about endless taps (Home, Nav, Search, Country, City, Zip, Street Name, Intersection, etc). On Tesla it's direct search with auto-complete, engine seems identical to google, traffic-based routing, etc.
Media navigation is also incomparable. It's like using Windows CE on a phone vs todays Android/iOS.
Don't understand what people find lacking with Tesla's UI, but everyone has an opinion.
In-housing their manufacturing and development, compared to traditional auto, is also why they've been such a success and standout in the industry. They're able to iterate changes better than anyone else.
Having to design controls around- or in-conjunction with the CarPlay interface is not what Tesla wants to do.
The vertical / systems integration of Apple is what makes them and their usability such a success. Surprising that Apple fans don't recognize the same logic when Tesla is using it.
CarPlay is free to license to automakers. No cost required, and the connection is fairly straightforward, as is evidenced by a third party developer building the screen-casting interfaces we see here.
Dude, you have no idea what you are talking about. I was in my Model 3 last night, waiting to turn, and someone called me. I couldn't answer the phone because the blindspot camera covers up the buttons to answer the phone.Nope. The Tesla UI is miles better than CarPlay. It's really not even close.
Huh? What’s that even mean? Gimped OS? Sounds like you have no idea what you’re talking about. Funny too, that people think Tesla and Rivian even make their own core operating systems. They don’t. They build (or try to build) fancy user interfaces on top, along with all the requisite applications. Unfortunately they don’t have the resources to go as deep, feature-wise, as either an Apple or a Google. Granted Apple and Google are creating interfaces they think will largely work for everyone, but greater degrees of customization by automakers will likely be coming in the near future. For now, though, that consistency is wonderful. I just recently drove my car, with CarPlay, to the airport. Directions and music and audiobooks all worked beautifully. Got on a flight, landed, got into a rental car and plugged by phone in. Continued using maps, music, audio-books, etc. Everything was easy, consistent and used my data - and provided highly reliable mapping. And, if I wanted to use Google Maps or Waze, I could have. Not sure why Tesla or Rivian would care what I use *iff* they can deliver the experience that isn’t so jarring from a UI standpoint. Considering almost every other car manufacturer has already navigated this landscape, it’s hard to understand the resistance. Incidentally, Volvo’s new car management interface uses Google’s Android as a base OS and they just, this week, announced Apple CarPlay support - which people have been waiting a year for. Older Volvos, which were not based on Android, already supported the CarPlay and Android Auto mirroring capability.I understand people wanting Apple Music support. However wanting a gimped OS made for legacy auto OEM's on a Tesla is laughable.