I'll use what apple hater use. Tesla is just making a money grab. So that people are forced to use their connective services. I think its $10/month. If they allowed apple carplay, maybe people wouldn't pay for those services.
Maybe an App Store solves it, and that's a fine solution.I get the allure of CarPlay and AA, I really do, but I think we need to remember why they were first made: to help bring some control to your phone / media in vehicles that otherwise have terrible infotainment systems.
Tesla building their own cars with 15-17” displays and full touch UIs are different than traditional vehicles in that regard. They have a full interface that they update consistently.
I think in a way, what Tesla is doing, is similar to what Apple would do. ‘This is our product, we’re designing the interface, and we don’t want other companies having any control over it.’
I’m not saying CarPlay shouldn’t exist or that Tesla should never allow it. Maybe it could operate as a window within the Tesla UI somewhere? I dunno. But the original goal of CarPlay wasn’t for Teslas with 15-17” screens. And even the new CarPlay that takes over the entire vehicle / large displays, no chance Tesla is going to give up their entire UI to Apple.
Having driven a Tesla for some time, what I think I’d prefer (personal opinion), is a small App Store of sorts for media apps. That’s what I find I miss the most - Music, podcasts apps, etc.
I pay for Amazon Music it works fine on CarPlay and Android Auto. When Tesla supports all services then you can start a discussion until then you have zero ground to stand on. I’m not changing providers for a car. Most companies understand that and have been moving to cross compatibility. Sad that Tesla thinks people will put time and effort into catering to their choices.I also don't get all these people clammoring for CarPlay.
Previous car was BMW where its iDrive was widely recognized as best infotainment system in the business. To enter a POI, or god forbid, an address, took about endless taps (Home, Nav, Search, Country, City, Zip, Street Name, Intersection, etc). On Tesla it's direct search with auto-complete, engine seems identical to google, traffic-based routing, etc.
Media navigation is also incomparable. It's like using Windows CE on a phone vs todays Android/iOS.
On other cars ive tried, CarPlay and Android Apple were an improvement on the factory system, but even then the graphics and scaling were pretty terrible.
Don't understand what people find lacking with Tesla's UI, but everyone has an opinion.
having 1 side of a vent turned off by default is not a normal tesla mode of operation
The Tesla UI is great, I don't think anyone's complaining about that. The complaints are about the lack of support for third party services. Your need for an iPad to run ABRP is an example of that. ABRP actually supports CarPlay and would have great integration...if only Tesla supported CarPlay.I drive a Tesla Model 3. I wouldn't mind native CarPlay integration, but the Tesla UI really doesn't need it. If Tesla comes up with their own app store, CarPlay will be completely superfluous.
If someone were to make these dual Raspberry Pi gizmos pre-configured and put them up for sale, I might consider it.
What I do plan on doing, though, is bringing my iPad mini 6 with its cellular modem on my next long multi-state road trip as a backup for navigation (mostly to run A Better Route Planner, for those who are familiar with it).
What exactly is buggy about the infotainment system? I've had a Model 3 SR+ for nearly a year now, and buggy has not been my experience. However, Tesla changing up the UI and screwing up ergonomics (I'm looking at you, December 2021 update) -- that'd I'd agree with.
To be fair pre-heat pump cars don't get that feature (I am not sure if there are heat pump 3's with out it but I know PTC heater folks don't get it).![]()
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There's a flip side to that: I'm not changing cars because of music sources and maps.I pay for Amazon Music it works fine on CarPlay and Android Auto. When Tesla supports all services then you can start a discussion until then you have zero ground to stand on. I’m not changing providers for a car. Most companies understand that and have been moving to cross compatibility. Sad that Tesla thinks people will put time and effort into catering to their choices.
I love my Tesla, i really do but let’s not kid ourselves the UI is any good.Nope. The Tesla UI is miles better than CarPlay. It's really not even close.
Don’t you come here with your rational and well thought out comments.I get the allure of CarPlay and AA, I really do, but I think we need to remember why they were first made: to help bring some control to your phone / media in vehicles that otherwise have terrible infotainment systems.
Tesla building their own cars with 15-17” displays and full touch UIs are different than traditional vehicles in that regard. They have a full interface that they update consistently.
I think in a way, what Tesla is doing, is similar to what Apple would do. ‘This is our product, we’re designing the interface, and we don’t want other companies having any control over it.’
I’m not saying CarPlay shouldn’t exist or that Tesla should never allow it. Maybe it could operate as a window within the Tesla UI somewhere? I dunno. But the original goal of CarPlay wasn’t for Teslas with 15-17” screens. And even the new CarPlay that takes over the entire vehicle / large displays, no chance Tesla is going to give up their entire UI to Apple.
Having driven a Tesla for some time, what I think I’d prefer (personal opinion), is a small App Store of sorts for media apps. That’s what I find I miss the most - Music, podcasts apps, etc.
Years ago Honda was the same way and the dealer couldn't believe I wouldn't consider them because of that. Years later, Honda changed their tune, although I do not think Tesla will....
The lack of CarPlay, especially the future version of it, is probably the main reason I'm not looking at Tesla when replacing my current EV next year. Polestar, BMW or Mustang are all more likely candidates.
The i4’s iDrive system offered all this functionality combined with not having to interact directly with the iPhone to use all my different audio apps, direct link to iMessage and better Siri support, Bluetooth isn’t vaguely comparable really, but equally you need the car manufacturer to make switching between the two ecosystems painless, BMW have done a really good job with that allowing me quick access to all my vehicles information while letting me throw my iPhone into the centre console to charge and not having to touch it at all while drivingSeems like a lot of people are willing to write off Tesla even before understanding the advantage that Tesla's built-in system provided. Unlike traditional ICE car, the most important aspects of EV infotainment system are the ability to accurately predict range while taking in account weather and road condition, calculate distance between charging station to provide easy-to-use road planning, and precondition battery upon arrival charging stations. Until CarPlay can fully integrate with individual EV, and being able to perform all above calculations accurately, it would be a non-starter if you rely on the car doing any sort of long distance driving.
Also, Apple Music, Podcast...etc works fine via Bluetooth in Tesla. Siri works as well directly on the phone. Honestly the only thing I miss is Waze. I agree, if there's an App Store on Tesla that would be perfect.
Maybe an App Store solves it, and that's a fine solution.
But, not having SiriusXM, Waze, and Apple Music are all significant downsides to my Model 3. I love most things about it, but those really bug me.
I just leave mine on the standard Home Screen, map and music controls, certainly no worse than what the default system would have presented me with, but then again I've got a bit of information overload going on with the map mirrored into the centre of my dash, current audio track listed, as well as some nav information in the heads up display along with driving metrics so I'm probably not a typical example 😁Tried CarPlay in my 2020 Kia. Was such a driving distraction I went back to Bluetooth connectivity.![]()
I just bought my Tesla in February and am still upset that it doesn't have CarPlay to the point where I'm also considering a new EV next year. The entire functionality of the Tesla GUI/mapping infuriates me. I actually bought a fancy iphone holder and run CarPlay on that while driving because of how bad the directions provided by Elon are at times. It tried to drive me across a corn field the other day to get to a hotel. #SorryForTheRantThe lack of CarPlay, especially the future version of it, is probably the main reason I'm not looking at Tesla when replacing my current EV next year. Polestar, BMW or Mustang are all more likely candidates.
Wait, how are you running CarPlay? Directly on the iPhone? I'd love to do that, but how?I just bought my Tesla in February and am still upset that it doesn't have CarPlay to the point where I'm also considering a new EV next year. The entire functionality of the Tesla GUI/mapping infuriates me. I actually bought a fancy iphone holder and run CarPlay on that while driving because of how bad the directions provided by Elon are at times. It tried to drive me across a corn field the other day to get to a hotel. #SorryForTheRant