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Tesla Could Be Planning to Support Apple Car Keys
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Do’nt know if you are looking for some advice but my suggestion is to buy/lease a Model Y.
I'm on 2025.45.6 (FSD: 14.2.2.1) with my 2024 Model 3.
And if I remember right, for the last few updates - FSD has had profiles you can set:
https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/modely/en_us/GUID-2CB60804-9CEA-4F4B-8B04-09B991368DC5.html
Never used Sloth.
Chill is usually 5 under or just at limit.
Standard is usually 5 over, sometimes more depending on speed of traffic.
Hurry is usually 10 over, sometimes more depending on speed of traffic.
Never used Mad Max.
I don't think the V12 FSD folk (HW3 cars) get that. It has been a while, but if I remember correctly FSD only runs on city roads in v12, it falls back to v11 stack on the highway.
Ah thank you for the info... after I wrote that and was reading the manual I was wondering if that was an HW3 thing. We got a free offer to transfer FSD from our 2018 to our 2024 when we purchased it, so since last year been using FSD on the HW4 - which is significantly better. (Wish there was an HW3 to HW4 upgrade).
No, v12 on HW3 is full end to end on both city and highway. It doesn’t fall back to v11.
V12.6 on HW3 is still very capable, it’s just not the v14 with way more parameters.
Early model Teslas (S/X) were complex, expensive luxury vehicles. Things often went wrong with esoteric things like the powered pop-out door handles or falcon wing doors, which contributed to a bad reliability score. But newer models (3/Y) were engineered to be much simpler with far fewer parts, which makes them more reliable. My sister drives a 2022 Model Y (real wheel drive, made in China) which has never needed servicing for anything except tire rotation and a cabin air filter change. Perfect vehicle, IMO.
There is some truth to this, not helped over the years by Tesla’s reputation for expensive and slow-to-dispatch spare parts. But they are improving: the 2025 Model Y refresh (“Juniper”) has multiple design changes made specifically to improve repairability and decrease insurance/repair costs.
Is 12.6 locked to 5 mph above the speed limit, or is that an AP limitation? V13 wasn't limited, and v14 for sure isn't limited.
The Apple Car Key feature has a few advantages over the Tesla app key:
- Key still works if phone battery is depleted, thanks to the iPhone's reserve power feature
- No need for the Tesla app to be running to use key (might reduce power consumption slightly?)
- Keys can be shared (and revoked) with iPhone users that don't have the Tesla app installed
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The Model Y was the world’s best selling car model in 2023 and 2024, edging out the Toyota Corolla and Toyota RAV4.
In 2025 it will be easily beaten by the RAV4, however, as Tesla sales have declined and RAV4 sales have surged.
No, 12.6 has choice of 3 modes. Standard is usually 5-8 miles above limit, and Hurry is even faster. Autopilot the old stake doesn’t exist in v12 FSD any more.
Yep the fact the Model Y beat out "best sellers" speaks volumes.
Somewhat close but not super close. If you went and tried to open the doors they’d not open, so it’s not that close.
You could try deleting the Tesla app and reinstalling. Also wonder if your car is sleeping. If on try turning off background refresh for the Tesla app.
I will get a Tesla immediately after they support CarPlay and Apple Car Key (UWB, not lame ass NFC!) 10.9 dollars per month for apple music is already expensive, I won't pay another 9.9 just to get data for built-in apps!
Support for Apple Car Keys may now be more likely to come to Tesla vehicles, amid new evidence that the automaker is embracing native, system-level digital car keys.
According to Not a Tesla App, 4.52.0 of Tesla's mobile app contains multiple code references to Harmony Wallet Key Cards. The discovery is notable because it represents a shift in how Tesla appears to be approaching mobile device integration.
Tesla's current Phone Key relies on Bluetooth communication between the vehicle and the Tesla app running in the background on a smartphone. By contrast, a native wallet key is stored at the operating system level and uses secure hardware elements, often making it more reliable and accessible.
The code strings identified in Tesla app version 4.52.0 specifically reference integration with Huawei's HarmonyOS, suggesting that the initial implementation is designed for Huawei Wallet on HarmonyOS devices. HarmonyOS is widely used in China, where Huawei is a dominant presence in the smartphone market. Tesla has historically used the Chinese market as a testing ground for new software capabilities before expanding them globally.
Although the references do not mention Apple Wallet or Google Wallet, the underlying functionality closely mirrors how Apple implements native digital car keys on the iPhone. Apple introduced Car Key support in Apple Wallet in 2020, allowing compatible vehicles to be unlocked, locked, and started using NFC, Bluetooth, or ultra wideband. Car Keys are stored in the Secure Enclave on the iPhone and Apple Watch, enabling features such as Express Mode, which allows a vehicle to be unlocked without Face ID, Touch ID, or a passcode, and even functionality even when the device battery is almost totally depleted.
Earlier this month, Rivian announced native support for Apple Wallet and Google Wallet digital car keys as part of its 2025.46 software update. In recent weeks, Porsche, Toyota, and General Motors all appear to be following suit.
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This is about unlocking car from outside. From inside you can always open doors using mechanical release which works even if vehicle has no power. People “trapped in their cars” simply didn’t get familiar with their vehicles and in panic tried to use door open button operating doors electrically.
Better than ever. Their Model Y is the most popular vehicle in the world. It is the highest selling model of any vehicle 3rd year in row! Their vehicles can drive autonomously with full self driving software and it dominates in the most important metrics including vehicle efficiency, performance, safety, reliability, lifespan and longevity, software features, responsiveness and upgradability, low total cost of ownership.
Lars Moravy, Tesla’s president of vehicle engineering is likely the person behind implementation of this technology. Tesla is known for never ending improvements of their vehicle hardware and software as soon as possible and whenever it makes sense even within the same years models.
Truck that Tesla built is nothing to ignore, it is actually their most advanced vehicle full of new technologies including 48V low voltage architecture, steer-by-wire steering and stainless steel body that won’t rust, needs no paint, is hard to scratch, dent or damage. Its drivetrain is designed for extreme durability but at the same time it can provide so much torque and power it is faster than most sports cars and stronger than most combustion engine trucks.
The $9.99/month or $99/year premium connect is more than that. It gives you the ability to view sentry view remotely. That's one thing that can't be replaced by other services.
You'd be surprised at how many people don't realize the cars have built in dash cam and can be recording things that happen around the car when parked.
If CarPlay worked in the Tesla, I can’t picture ever using it. The Tesla system already does everything CarPlay does, and it’s integrated into the car. No need to plug in or sync a phone. I was in California last week in a rental, and was forced to use Carplay, was a much worse experience than the Tesla. The map is zoomed in way to close, and panning and zooming out much harder than on the Tesla system. Missed my Tesla something awful the whole week.
The main advantage for me would be better access to apps. A lot of apps available on iOS/CarPlay aren't on Tesla.
Apps like Spotify also works better in many ways on CarPlay than it does on Tesla (eg: Tesla's Spotify app doesn't work if you're in an area without mobile coverage, it doesn't support downloaded tracks and doesn't seem to cache more than 1-2 songs ahead)
I don’t do Spotify, nor mess around with apps while driving. But I think Siri is no comparison to Grok in the Tesla, and I much prefer the Tesla navigation.