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Tesla Could Be Planning to Support Apple Car Keys

mr_flibble said:
Better than ever. Their Model Y is the most popular vehicle in the world. It is the highest selling model of any vehicle 3rd year in row! Their vehicles can drive autonomously with full self driving software and it dominates in the most important metrics including vehicle efficiency, performance, safety, reliability, lifespan and longevity, software features, responsiveness and upgradability, low total cost of ownership.
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You either own it, or sell it. We'll see how well that holds up now that the $7,500 credit is dead. Meanwhile:

The Toyota Corolla is the best-selling car of all time, with over 50 million units sold globally since 1966, known for reliability and efficiency. However, for recent years, the Toyota RAV4 (as an SUV) and the Tesla Model Y (an electric SUV) have frequently battled for the top spot in annual sales, with the RAV4 often leading in recent full-year data and projections for 2025 favoring it, while the Model Y led in 2023 and was a strong contender in 2024 before slipping, notes reports from late 2025.
 
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victorvictoria said:
You either own it, or sell it. We'll see how well that holds up now that the $7,500 credit is dead. Meanwhile:

The Toyota Corolla is the best-selling car of all time, with over 50 million units sold globally since 1966, known for reliability and efficiency.
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But the model Y was a single model best seller over the last few years. Two metrics, two outcomes.
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However, for recent years, the Toyota RAV4 (as an SUV) and the Tesla Model Y (an electric SUV) have frequently battled for the top spot in annual sales, with the RAV4 often leading in recent full-year data and projections for 2025 favoring it, while the Model Y led in 2023 and was a strong contender in 2024 before slipping, notes reports from late 2025.
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Says quite a bit about the model Y to dethrone and industry leader. You can attribute this to the tax credit, phases of the moon, or whatever rational, but it happened.
 
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I7guy said:
You could try deleting the Tesla app and reinstalling. Also wonder if your car is sleeping. If on try turning off background refresh for the Tesla app.
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Car sleeps fine. I have other colleagues with Tesla and they notice similar usage from Tesla app. I’m not too worried about it, the whole thing works so well I just take that as the cost for convenience.
 
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But the model Y was a single model best seller over the last few years. Two metrics, two outcomes.

Says quite a bit about the model Y to dethrone and industry leader. You can attribute this to the tax credit, phases of the moon, or whatever rational, but it happened.
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It happened. And then sales fell off a cliff. EVs are dead tech running.
 
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victorvictoria said:
It happened. And then sales fell off a cliff. EVs are dead tech running.
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Tesla sales may be in decline, but EV sales continue to rise globally, with more than 20 million sold in 2025, up almost 20% since 2024. Around 24% of all new vehicles sold are now EVs.

The US is one of very few markets where EV sales have declined, and even there only slightly.
 
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Reason077 said:
Tesla sales may be in decline, but EV sales continue to rise globally, with more than 20 million sold in 2025, up almost 20% since 2024. Around 24% of all new vehicles sold are now EVs.

The US is one of very few markets where EV sales have declined, and even there only slightly.
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And why do you think Tesla's sales have declined?
 
I7guy said:
The usual internet trope would say: competition, tax credits and CEO. No one knows the real reasons and the decline was minor compared to let's say other US manufacturers who wrote of billions. Tesla will make a comeback, as I'm speculating.
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I'm going with CEO. Do you own one?😜
 
I support the right of choice by consumers to buy products that they wish. I don’t get the idea that an entire company must be destroyed and vilified because of the actions of 1 individual. Maybe because I’ve read more than a few books on all the people and hard work that went into Tesla … or maybe cuz I’m an old fart (40).

I get not liking someone but - Tesla does good things for the environment and makes great EVs and has an amazing charging network that works (unlike most of the 3rd party charging networks out there).

Our Teslas have been AMAZING. We have over 100k miles on on our 2018 and our 2024 is looking to be the same and better. Not having to get gas, not having to do expensive oil changes cuz I can’t pry the bolts off the oil pan shield with a hammer and wrench, and having a car that drives the same way (and fast) as it did new 100k miles later is pretty impressive.

Of course I’m influenced based on the product I own. But I’m not the only one that thinks this way - there’s a reason why you see a lot of Teslas around these parts. It’s not cuz people are forced to buy something and it’s not because the product is absolute trash. :p
 
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victorvictoria said:
True enough. Which means take everything someone with a vested interest says with a modicum of skepticism.
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I actually bought my car in part because of the vested interest; also known as positivity.

I went into it with lots of trepidation but now recognize it was a good decision.

But yeah buy anything or don’t buy anything based on any rational or irrational thought process. It does t impact me in the least.
 
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BigMcGuire said:
But also I’m far more interested in someone’s opinion of something if they’ve actually used the product vs not.
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So am I! But I don't have an opinion on Tesla, per se. All I have are the sales of Teslas falling off a cliff. And that's not an opinion, that's a fact, and it's easy to verify.
 
I7guy said:
I actually bought my car in part because of the vested interest; also known as positivity.

I went into it with lots of trepidation but now recognize it was a good decision.

But yeah buy anything or don’t buy anything based on any rational or irrational thought process. It does t impact me in the least.
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I was under the impression that vested interest was also known as conflict of interest. Thanks for the correction.
 
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victorvictoria said:
I was under the impression that vested interest was also known as conflict of interest. Thanks for the correction.
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This is an ev forum the largest US manufacturer is Tesla. Love it, don’t like it, like the management team, don’t like the management team etc.

It’s up to the individual to decide on the veracity of the posts and if a buying decision is made on posts in the forum, caveat emptor.

Can you give me an example of “conflict of interest” on an anonymous Internet forum?
 
I7guy said:
This is an ev forum the largest US manufacturer is Tesla. Love it, don’t like it, like the management team, don’t like the management team etc.

It’s up to the individual to decide on the veracity of the posts and if a buying decision is made on posts in the forum, caveat emptor.

Can you give me an example of “conflict of interest” on an anonymous Internet forum?
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Any positive opinion by an owner.
 
Re: above discussions:

It has been interesting owning an EV since 2022. I can't tell you how many people told me my 2018 Tesla Model 3 wouldn't last 100,000 miles - more than I can count on both hands ... and maybe toes. And it was usually: "I'm so sorry you bought that car... it's not going to last, your battery will die way before 100,000 miles and it'll cost you $25,000 to replace it" or something to that effect. (Note, going strong with barely any degradation at 105k miles).

That said, I'd say MOST interactions I've had with non EV owners have been positive - where they're curious, they ask questions. Then... lately... one political party feels to need to hate the entire brand and its owners - not a lot of fun driving through those protests (or talking with them) when just trying to go about my day - blaming / judging me for the actions of someone else.

Been fun talking with fellow EV owners recently in my apartment complex - one guy just bought a Kia EV - he's very friendly and we enjoy talking about our cars (we park beside each other in the garage).
 
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