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You just did such a big self own and don’t even realize it 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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You just did such a big self own and don’t even realize it 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Not at all. I own Apple and Tesla products. I am simply pointing out examples of Apple build quality issues and what some would consider overpriced items.

I can't control that some are inclined to ignore issues with one brand, and to point out the same flaws with another. I hope both companies do well.

Perfectly fair to not like a company or a product, but obviously the irony is lost on Apple fans using the same tactics to attack Tesla, as Android folks use to attack Apple.
 
Does it crash and burn if you switch on the auto-pilot?

Meanwhile, poor Apple can’t seem to figure out crash detection:
I hope they don’t try full self driving with the Apple car or CarPlay. 😉
 
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Yeah Muskrats always make bad examples and show their ignorance. It comes free with the monitors and even if it is expensive on its own it is actually two very high quality dense material cloth stuck together. It’s not like a garbage Amazon cloth that falls apart after a month.

But Teslas do fall apart sometimes when they are new. Worst made cars I have seen. Must have low standards to like them. If my computer was made of such cheap creaky squeaky bendy materials I would be getting refund.

Totally agree. The quality, fit and finish and seating positions aren’t up to the standard of the segment they pretend to play in. I can only imagine that those who think it’s up to scratch have never had a car from that segment and are upwards shopping using incentives and loans. I just don’t get it, some people must have very low standards. But yes the ludicrous mode models do accelerate fast in a straight line. That is about it.
 
Totally agree. The quality, fit and finish and seating positions aren’t up to the standard of the segment they pretend to play in. I can only imagine that those who think it’s up to scratch have never had a car from that segment and are upwards shopping using incentives and loans. I just don’t get it, some people must have very low standards. But yes the ludicrous mode models do accelerate fast in a straight line. That is about it.

It’s about the drive train and the technology. There’s no comparison there. You can buy a much “nicer” gasoline powered vehicle for the same money. You can also buy a very nicely appointed propeller driven aircraft, or you can buy a jet.

I still own two other cars (Cadillacs) and while the appointments are certainly finer, they feel like driving tractors in comparison. Looking forward to an EV based Caddy coupe some day, but it’ll cost a lot more then a comparable ICE powered one.

I did not get any EV incentives on my Model 3 performance, nor did I buy with a loan. And unless you are literally driving a track car, I’ll destroy you in the twisties, too. Hard to beat a Tesla due to the low center of gravity, especially the performance.
 
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It’s about the drive train and the technology. There’s no comparison there. You can buy a much “nicer” gasoline powered vehicle for the same money. You can also buy a very nicely appointed propeller driven aircraft, or you can buy a jet.

I still own two other cars (Cadillacs) and while the appointments are certainly finer, they feel like driving tractors in comparison. Looking forward to an EV based Caddy coupe some day, but it’ll cost a lot more then a comparable ICE powered one.

I did not get any EV incentives on my Model 3 performance, nor did I buy with a loan. And unless you are literally driving a track car, I’ll destroy you in the twisties, too. Hard to beat a Tesla due to the low center of gravity, especially the performance.
LOL Comparison with a caddy. I rest my case about standards. 😂
 
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Tesla today announced the launch of the Tesla Wireless Charging Platform, a $300 wireless charger that is able to charge up to three Qi devices at one time.

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The concept is somewhat similar to the AirPower that Apple wanted to produce as the three devices can be placed anywhere on the Tesla charging mat, receiving up to 15W of power each.

Tesla says that the angular design of the charging mat was inspired by the look of the Cybertruck, and it features an aluminum housing with an alcantara surface and detachable magnetic stand that can be used for charging flat or at an angle.

Apple in September 2017 announced the AirPower, a multi-device charger designed to charge the iPhone, Apple Watch, and AirPods all at once. Apple wanted users to be able to place their devices anywhere on the AirPower to charge, but the overlapping wireless coils required were problematic, with Apple seeing heat management and interference issues that prevented the product from being viable. While the AirPower was meant to launch in 2018, it never appeared, and Apple confirmed its cancelation in 2019.

Tesla's charging mat is using FreePower, a technology from Aira that has been used in other wireless charging platforms like the Base Station Pro from Nomad. Nomad's Base Station Pro also supported charging from anywhere on the charging platform, but it turned out to be problematic because it did not work well with the iPhone 12 and later because of a firmware issue.

While Tesla's concept is similar to what Apple hoped to achieve with the AirPower, it is limited to Qi-based devices like the iPhone and the AirPods and it does not charge the Apple Watch.

Article Link: Tesla Launches $300 AirPower-Like Wireless Charger That Can Power Three Qi Devices at Onc


Tesla today announced the launch of the Tesla Wireless Charging Platform, a $300 wireless charger that is able to charge up to three Qi devices at one time.

tesla-wireless-charger.jpg

The concept is somewhat similar to the AirPower that Apple wanted to produce as the three devices can be placed anywhere on the Tesla charging mat, receiving up to 15W of power each.

Tesla says that the angular design of the charging mat was inspired by the look of the Cybertruck, and it features an aluminum housing with an alcantara surface and detachable magnetic stand that can be used for charging flat or at an angle.

Apple in September 2017 announced the AirPower, a multi-device charger designed to charge the iPhone, Apple Watch, and AirPods all at once. Apple wanted users to be able to place their devices anywhere on the AirPower to charge, but the overlapping wireless coils required were problematic, with Apple seeing heat management and interference issues that prevented the product from being viable. While the AirPower was meant to launch in 2018, it never appeared, and Apple confirmed its cancelation in 2019.

Tesla's charging mat is using FreePower, a technology from Aira that has been used in other wireless charging platforms like the Base Station Pro from Nomad. Nomad's Base Station Pro also supported charging from anywhere on the charging platform, but it turned out to be problematic because it did not work well with the iPhone 12 and later because of a firmware issue.

While Tesla's concept is similar to what Apple hoped to achieve with the AirPower, it is limited to Qi-based devices like the iPhone and the AirPods and it does not charge the Apple Watch.

Article Link: Tesla Launches $300 AirPower-Like Wireless Charger That Can Power Three Qi Devices at Once
“While Tesla's concept is similar to what Apple hoped to achieve with the AirPower, it is limited to Qi-based devices like the iPhone and the AirPods and it does not charge the Apple Watch.” Wasn’t AirPower only supposed to charge Qi-based devices? So even AirPower would have had the same limitation right?
 
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It’s about the drive train and the technology. There’s no comparison there. You can buy a much “nicer” gasoline powered vehicle for the same money. You can also buy a very nicely appointed propeller driven aircraft, or you can buy a jet.

I still own two other cars (Cadillacs) and while the appointments are certainly finer, they feel like driving tractors in comparison. Looking forward to an EV based Caddy coupe some day, but it’ll cost a lot more then a comparable ICE powered one.

I did not get any EV incentives on my Model 3 performance, nor did I buy with a loan. And unless you are literally driving a track car, I’ll destroy you in the twisties, too. Hard to beat a Tesla due to the low center of gravity, especially the performance.

I doubt you own anything. Your posts keep contradicting themselves. You’d rather buy discount low quality cleaning clothes but then you have Apple Polishing Cloth and that wonky car.
 
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I doubt you own anything. Your posts keep contradicting themselves. You’d rather buy discount low quality cleaning clothes but then you have Apple Polishing Cloth and that wonky car.

I suggest you go re-read my posts before attempting to debate further, I said no such thing.

And it's really not necessary to pick sides on every little thing in life.

Based on your signature line, that's not something anyone is likely to be able to convince you of.
 
better not look at the teams at Apple and Google

guaranteed you'll find engineers that made your phone that you absolutely hate 🫢

Exactly, and what is it these days with people buying a product because they fawn over some idealized view of the person who made it? Then when it turns out the person isn’t exactly what they wanted them to be they whine about it and want that person shut up and cut down? It’s almost like I don’t live in the USA anymore.
 
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Not if he dies today he won't. He'll be remembered as Barnum. He hasn't done much but generate hype so far-- Tesla in particular needs to survive and stay a top tier automaker through the broader market transition to EVs and build a leadership team that can keep it running without him.

Jobs was a great promoter, and he also spent some time in the wilderness, but he eventually turned Apple into a juggernaut and was able to hand it off to someone who kept it on a growth path.

Jobs was no more and no less a promoter than Musk. I never cared about either as a human being and we all now know how much of an ass Jobs was yet today people still act as though he is some kind of Deity.
 
Jobs was no more and no less a promoter than Musk. I never cared about either as a human being and we all now know how much of an ass Jobs was yet today people still act as though he is some kind of Deity.

Jobs in his 20s was a mess. At NeXT he learned discipline. In his last 10 years he couldn’t be faulted. Did you ever see him posting crazy things on socials? No. He had the insider knowledge about those Silicon Valley extremists and knew they were evil SOBs who like to twist the public and steal tons of money with pump n dump hype marketing scams.
 
Great argument, you have convinced me my Tesla is hot garbage. Enjoy those petrol prices by the way.
Nobody will convince you that it is, nobody is trying to convince you that it is either. Only you seem to be trying to convince yourself that it isn't. There is a difference.

And yes, petrol prices are high, very high where I am. We use our EV typically to be honest, but even electricity prices are very high. But it is what it is, we didn't get an EV to save costs or the planet. My wife just wanted to change her BMW M2C and like the car. As simple as that.
 
Will never buy that charger, not a fan of the man, but I love my Model 3 AWD. It’s no other car even close in that price range around here. The car has its faults too, most are luckily software related and can be fixed.
 
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Yeah, I'll never buy a Tesla product now – car or phone charger. I was a fan of Musk in years past but all this Twitter stuff has made me realize he's just an entitled narcissistic buffoon. I see someone driving a Tesla now and my gut instinct is that they are as narcissistic and insecure and assholish as Musk. That's not fair to them – and not accurate across all Tesla drivers, but it just goes to show how Musk has tarnished the Tesla brand through his antics.
Sounds like a personal problem to me? Maybe you should change your outlook and quit assuming random Tesla owners fit one particular mindset you've assigned to them?

As someone who was never really sure about Elon Musk in the past, but who loved Space-X and Tesla? I'm just as happy with their vehicles today as I was back in 2014.

I mean, early on, he created that Tesla Solar company and it turned out it was mostly an attempt to bail out a relative's failing solar panel business when he bought it out as a favor. Their pricing never really made sense to me. I got better panels at a better price buying from a regional solar installer. His "Boring Company" was questionable too. I mean, ok - they have a cool machine to dig big tunnels in the ground. But we've always been able to dig tunnels as needed for large projects, and all of the stuff about it enabling a "Hyper Loop" was just sci-fi fantasy imagination as much as anything else. (Note that Elon just suggested OTHERS could build them to work with his Boring Company tunnels to make a complete package. And nobody really did....)

Elon was really just the "money" behind various business startup ideas, with some having more merits than others. (I think Starlink has some definite promise!)

Beyond that, he's just a rich guy who has a lot of fun trolling people on social media and making real "big picture" promises about what he wants to do next -- most of which has unrealistic timelines for completion, even if it's really happening. I happen to like the guy in an "eccentric rich dude" way. But he could walk away from Tesla completely and the company should be fine. He didn't invent anything they do and they're well established....
 
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