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Preordered mine.
You know you suck. :cool:
I tried to pre-order and they had CC processing issues.
I will pre-order but it will be after they produce the other 140K cars that I'll get mine. 8-(

I have another electric right now so I already have a Level2 station.
The lease on that car is up in two years. Just in time to get my Model 3.
 
I wonder how many of the people who put signed up did so to get the 75K rebate on EVs before Tesla 's got phased out? 27.5K is not a bad price for one, will people pay 35K without a rebate? In addition, Congress could end the rebate before Tesla delivers leaving people paying more than they expected.

or just use the controls on the steering wheel? Pretty standard feature in most cars for about a decade.

Except most steering wheels only have radio controls, not lights, heat / cooling etc. I simply used radio as an example. I certainly would not want a steering wheel full of other controls as well.
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Right. It's the dumbest argument unless you're a long haul trucker or something. People just like to find reasons to complain and think they know it all. Besides, at this point, Tesla has thousands of Superchargers across the country and according to Musk they plan to double that number. If you're on a long trip, you stop for lunch, charge for an hour, and get back on the road. No big deal.

That's great, if the station is near where you want to eat. Until EV charging on long trip is as easy as filling with gas EV adoption will be very limited.
 
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The Prius Four which first went on sale in 2004 was the first Prius that had mass market appeal and was priced cheap enough that people could afford it. I was one of the people who pre-ordered that model, and finally received it in December 2004. I still own that car, it has over 200,000 miles on it and still has its original battery. I thought that playing the "oooohhhh the battery is going to die and it will cost you a fortune to replace" fear mongering was history because of how false it's been for most hybrids. Most ICE cars transmissions need work or replacement by 200,000 miles, and that's 2-3000 dollars for those cars. I can get refurb batteries for $3000.00.

Most hybrids also look very similar to each other. That's because aerodynamics kind of dictate the shape. I suspect Tesla also has airflow considerations, and that's why it's shaped like it is. Putting a fake grill on the front makes as much sense as putting fake wood paneling on cars today. It really just dates the car for no other purpose.
 
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If you've ever driven one of the older Mini Cooper models you know what a pain in the ass it is to not have basic information such as speed and range right in front of you. Constantly having to look to the side for the very basics is a bad idea.

Tesla, you have a 1.5 years to do it.

I've driven the Mini a few times. I think that's the difference **I** drove the Mini. If you think this car is going to be primarily driven by you in a year and half and not majority of the software/machine doing the driving you haven't driven in a P90D. They literally drive you home from work. You will def need instrumentation data, just not like today because you will be the operator less and less.
 
I think the car looks great, and can completely understand the excitement. But a $1000 for a place in line that starts in a year and a half???? For anybody that thinks a $1000 is a nice amount of money, why not just wait and avoid any risk? I don't like that they are asking for money so far in advance - why not start the deposits 6 months in advance instead of 18? It makes me say "no thanks" for now.

I'm guessing a number of them wanted to be sure they qualify for the 7.5k tax rebate before Tesla exceeds the threshold for ending the rebate.
 
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I do agree on one point: we should keep moving forward. However, batteries aren't exclusive to cars and no good solution has been found yet. Why, I don't know. But the process of recycling batteries is awful, since they're all made from hazardous materials (lithium), so the point of being eco-friendly is totally missed. Besides, battery tech has stood still comparatively to technology over the years, and because of that the only way to get higher-capacity batteries is by increasing its size (and thus the amount of hazardous components). And remember the energy you plug into your car still comes from burning coal or natural gas, as you already stated.
Honestly, the most eco-friendly transportation I can find is in electrified railway (subway, train), and it doesn't look like it's going to be otherwise any time soon.


LOL, what do you mean by no good solutions have been found yet? What do you think is powering those Model S sedans? This stuff already works. And having the option to recycle a battery safely is infinitely better than the entire production process of oil. And the battery chemistry could improve as well, making the point moot anyway.
 
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I agree with you, actually, and I consider myself an environmentalist. We still haven't cracked the problem of having to burn dirty coal in order to charge these things. And the battery disposal is horrible for the environment as well. I like the steps Tesla is making, but a lot of this electric car stuff is BS. If it's not solar powered, I'm not super interested.
Exactly. I still have not heard anyone come up with a viable power generating source and capable grid infrastructure to handle the increase load if there were a mass shift to EV. Nukes would be the logical choice, but that won't fly, at least not here in the US.
 
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Tesla has a cool little calculator on their website that compares your electricity cost (based on zipcode I believe) to fuel prices. Granted, gas prices have come down, but when I last checked it out (probably a year ago), charging was about 1/4 the cost of fuel in my area.

The way I see it, Model 3 allows a lot more people to support the EV dream. A lot of people want to buy an EV because they see it as the future, they care about the environment (and yes, we can argue about whether or not EVs are more environmentally friendly), and/or they don't want to support the horrible oil industry and nations like Saudi Arabia that bankroll terrorism. There are many reasons to buy an EV and some people are willing to pay a premium if they believe the purchase is in line with their beliefs. Model 3 makes that possible for many many more people. You're clearly not someone who cares about those things, so for you it's about bottom line price. But there's a huge market out there who consider other factors and this car is within their price range.

It's not that I don't care about those things, it's just that most people can't afford to double an expense of theirs just to support a cause. It will be a beautiful day when all cars are electric, but that will not happen until the prices get in line with what the average family can afford. 75 Percent of the market would probably struggle with that car payment.
 
It looks like a predator mask.
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Elon Musk is the new Steve Jobs.

Wish I had the spare money for the Roadster, ... but let's see - maybe I end up with a Model 3.

In the meantime everyone can save some electricity, water, oil and everything at home by just saving a little bit each day.

Close your window while heating in winter, do not let the water running unnecessary, do not drive around each corner to the next supermarket, etc. pp.

Each drop counts while fighting human-made global warming!

PS: oh, and use your Mac. iPad, iPhone a year longer, saves enormous resources and energy, too ;-)!
 
Interesting that a preorder is no assurance of where you are in line, Tesla apparently will start with the more expensive versions first before going to the 35K model.
 
Oh, so you're saying looks have no importance on consumers decisions to buy a vehicle? If the specs are similar then heck yeah I'd choose the vehicle which appealed to me more.
But the specs won't be similar, that's exactly the point. And it's not even clear if the electric car for the masses is about to become real this time or not. We are earliest in the first iPhone stage of development in the electric car revolution and you should consider yourself lucky, if you get to choose between a black and a white Tesla 3. Assuming of course that this is the breakthrough vehicle Elon Musk pretends it to be. Otherwise you've bought yourself a nice Nokia Symbian smartphone shortly before the company disappeared. There are way more important questions to ask than if the look is appealing. Let's start with: Will the Tesla 3 development lead the company into bankruptcy? Can the car make a profit at $35K? Will building supercharger stations become a taxpayer supported endeavor around the world? And so on. No one really cares if you like the look of it.
 
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Exactly. I still have not heard anyone come up with a viable power generating source and capable grid infrastructure to handle the increase load if there were a mass shift to EV. Nukes would be the logical choice, but that won't fly, at least not here in the US.

Solar Panels for the home. The prices have dropped to the point that the biggest portion of the cost is the labor.
 
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They should make a front grill and blow air to front trunk? There is no big engine in front u know.
It's a styling thing. The tesla s has a "grill" and looks better. They could just shape the front slightly different and it wouldn't need one. The bull nose looks a bit wierd
 
Elon Musk is the new Steve Jobs.
In that he is his exact opposite. Imagine if Steve Jobs bragged about the iPhone's mass-market appeal back in March 2006 and already collected hundred dollar bills for pre-orders almost two years in advance of the first iPhone deliveries in Late 2007. If he could Steve Jobs would never admit to be working on something before he could not sell millions of it the very next day. Oh and if he would develop a space rocket which was exploding on the ramp, he would hide his failure and not post a video on Facebook.

Elon Musk is the new Steve Balmer.
 
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Interesting that a preorder is no assurance of where you are in line, Tesla apparently will start with the more expensive versions first before going to the 35K model.
It has more to do with where you live. Nowhere in the reservation form did it even list options, let alone ask me to select them. Once my number comes up, they'll build it to order.
 
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