Oh and if he would develop a space rocket which was exploding on the ramp, he would hide his failure and not post a video on Facebook.
You think hiding that wold be a good thing?
Elon Musk is the new Steve Balmer.
Don't agree.
Oh and if he would develop a space rocket which was exploding on the ramp, he would hide his failure and not post a video on Facebook.
Elon Musk is the new Steve Balmer.
Tin foil on the head to stop government from reading your thoughts was actually created by the government because it increases reception. /sSo you are the other shooter on the grassy knoll?
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Tesla is a fake front company to keep back electric car production, and an insult to Nikola Tesla. Volkswagen and Mini electric car production and sales would have both been in full swing if it weren't for a nefarious cabal keeping it all reined in. You'll scoff, but electric cars have been around for more than a century. You'll say it's due to battery size that they haven't ever been mass produced, but this would not have been an issue if there would have been charging stations set up everywhere. Elon Musk is a con-front-man for oil interests.
It's not as though infrastructure has to meet a specific threshold before Tesla even has a chance. I wouldn't have seriously considered Tesla two years ago, because a trip I make often would test the limits of its range. Now there are two supercharger stations on that route. My personal threshold has been reached. At least 200,000 other people feel the same.That's great, if the station is near where you want to eat. Until EV charging on long trip is as easy as filling with gas EV adoption will be very limited.
They have - four times.Why can't they design an affordable electric car that also looks good?
That's not the case. Currently they're building them at a loss even if they weren't investing elsewhere like the Gigafactory. It's a race to see if they can turn their vehicles profitable before running out of the money they have.
I agree with you, actually, and I consider myself an environmentalist. We still haven't cracked the problem of having to burn dirty coal in order to charge these things. And the battery disposal is horrible for the environment as well. I like the steps Tesla is making, but a lot of this electric car stuff is BS. If it's not solar powered, I'm not super interested.
I've always thought Tesla interiors looked cheap. I'm not a fan of a lot of bling (and I hate shiny chrome) but the Tesla interior just looks like cheap plastic. Like they had to cut corners somewhere to meet a price range and decided to do it with the interior. I know people elsewhere are claiming this isn't final but I wonder if that's not more hoping than anything else. I can't believe Tesla would show this off if there was a major change coming to the dashboard from a design standpoint.
No CarPlay, not getting my money.
Whenever I tell someone I want a Tesla they inevitably say, "yeah but the range is only 200 or 250 miles." Yeah, and I've gone on one trip in two years when that would have mattered, I have another car, and 99% of my driving is less than 20 miles a day.
I would use the steering wheel controls, but I get where you are coming from
That's my fear, that I'll have to shell out thousands of dollars to replace the batteries in the future. With a gas powered car properly maintained you can easily get to 200k+ which might encompass 10-15 years of driving. Of course we don't know what battery technology will look like in 10-15 years so it might just be a leap of faith.
Disclaimer: I'm a HUGE Tesla fan and would certainly love to get one. The reason I haven't is because I've found my 80k buys me MUCH more car when I get a gas one versus the Tesla S, plus it's got great mileage and is very cheap to run even though it's got a big engine.
I love that we can now make a (viable) total electric driven vehicle...my issue with the Tesla (and a lot of other EV's) is that they are not able make a cross country run, without a long wait to 'refuel'...the 'fuel' being electricity.
If they can...
- Create a power source that can be 'refueled' in no more than 10-15 minutes (like a gasoline/IC vehicle)
- And this was available at EVERY service station (like gasoline and diesel)
- Cost of vehicles is the same (or very close to; few hundred dollars at most) the cost of the equivalent gasoline/diesel vehicle (I.E.: Ford Escape gasoline vs Ford Escape EV)
it would be a no brainer to make the final conversation to all electric vehicles.
From what I've seen, Hydrogen may be the way to go (Toyota has bought in big with this), to power EV's. It seems that the distribution and delivery is very similar to gasoline/diesel, which means it will be easier and cheaper to transition to it and Hydrogen is the MOST abundant element in the Universe (and on Earth, for that matter).
Also, it's much cheaper to 'refine' Hydrogen than gasoline/diesel...no drilling for it and production can be created through Osmosis, using solar energy (cheap, after the initial equipment investment) as the catalyst.
I mean, I like the car and everything, but...
... I don't know: the fact that there's no front grills at the front of the car just makes me feel off for some reason. Maybe it's me just being used to seeing that on pretty much every car out there, but it just feels weird. It could just be for design in order for me to feel comfortable. Ah, whatever; I'll live with it.
And the other thing: I imagine it being difficult to drive around Toronto with this when I don't see a lot of Tesla charging stations.
I would one day like to buy a Tesla (used to like Audi and whatnot, but... well, you know), but the second issue should probably need to be resolved first before I'm comfortable enough to buy one (of course, once I have the money).
I think the car looks great, and can completely understand the excitement. But a $1000 for a place in line that starts in a year and a half???? For anybody that thinks a $1000 is a nice amount of money, why not just wait and avoid any risk? I don't like that they are asking for money so far in advance - why not start the deposits 6 months in advance instead of 18? It makes me say "no thanks" for now.
That computer screen is a joke. It's just asking for troubles on the road.
In that he is his exact opposite. Imagine if Steve Jobs bragged about the iPhone's mass-market appeal back in March 2006 and already collected hundred dollar bills for pre-orders almost two years in advance of the first iPhone deliveries in Late 2007. If he could Steve Jobs would never admit to be working on something before he could not sell millions of it the very next day. Oh and if he would develop a space rocket which was exploding on the ramp, he would hide his failure and not post a video on Facebook.
Elon Musk is the new Steve Balmer.
Okay this was highly unexpected!
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I was personally planning to get a Merc by 2018, and that was gonna cost me 'bout 100k.
Gods am tempted by Tesla now, but am pretty sure there isn't a lot of infrastructure in place over here.
Even though I live in the richest part of the entire country, I fear it'll be limited to the cities, not that I venture out much by a car anyway, and if the current government indeed does grant tax incentives then am sold.
Seriously, Apple where you at with your Apple Car?
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Uh what!? It's gorgeous!Why can't they design an affordable electric car that also looks good?
I think Apple appears innovative, in part because they don't show us their every misstep. You probably can't hide an exploding rocket, but you don't have to tweet about it either. Did Steve Jobs even have a Twitter account? I don't know, he answered the occasional email and wrote down his Thoughts on Flash. But he always painstakingly cared for his public persona and that of Apple. He wanted to surprise people with his keynotes, he wanted to avoid the Osborn effect and he wanted to hide from the copycats in Redmond. No way he would have unveiled a product more than one year in advance. And I think that is smart. I already don't care about that car anymore. Can't keep myself excited until Late 2017.You think hiding that would be a good thing?
Not sold on the complete removal of digital instrument panels directly in front of the driver. Seems like it would be annoying glancing over at the giant bright screen for basic speed indication. An optional headsup windshield display would be a much nicer solution imo, even if offered as an optional redundancy in functionality.
A really big one!The car will most likey look better with a car number plate on the front.
Lets wait and see how much that turns out to be in real useage, and how much charge it will hold after being driven for a few years.
Cos sofar that is the real stoppage for full electric cars, they loose allmostr all their value relativly quick to failing batteries and insane prices for replacements.
I've no idea how so many people sign up to a new car without reading the road tests and reviews first! Lunacy!
However having said all that I will most likely replace my diesel with one of these. I drive 600 miles a week so for me it would be a complete game changer.
Are you one of the owners that love it, but gave it a bad reliabilty rating?I purchased a Model S without ever having driven one. Best car I've ever owned.
So this is Five?They have - four times.
Driver disctraction.What kind of troubles?
One day when it will be a common car/interior setup and every driver will be staring at such display while driving there will be troubles.Never had troubles in two years driving Model S - and that's at faster speeds than in the US.
Or maybe it's the first time you've been confronted with critical thinking.
A thousand bucks gets you a spot in the virtual queue. Many people stood in a physical line for hours to pay a thousand bucks for an early spot in the virtual queue.
I waited until there were 115,000 people ahead of me. But getting the car in 2018 (or later) is better for me than getting it in late 2017.
The deposit is refundable if I decide I don't want the car.
I think the car looks great, and can completely understand the excitement. But a $1000 for a place in line that starts in a year and a half???? For anybody that thinks a $1000 is a nice amount of money, why not just wait and avoid any risk? I don't like that they are asking for money so far in advance - why not start the deposits 6 months in advance instead of 18? It makes me say "no thanks" for now.
That's great, if the station is near where you want to eat. Until EV charging on long trip is as easy as filling with gas EV adoption will be very limited.
I wonder if this exact design came from say, Toyota or GM, would people still be drooling all over it or is it just because it's Tesla? To me it looks like a Mazda minus the front grille.
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It's a prototype. The final version will likely have a speedo cluster or HUD.
It's not that I don't care about those things, it's just that most people can't afford to double an expense of theirs just to support a cause. It will be a beautiful day when all cars are electric, but that will not happen until the prices get in line with what the average family can afford. 75 Percent of the market would probably struggle with that car payment.