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Tesla Unveils $35,000 Model 3 Electric Car, Shipping Late 2017
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Yes, hopefully they stay on track. But, I wonder how many years out it is currently, or if you go shopping once they become available? While I guess they'll technically be 'available' once the first one hits the streets, they won't really be available until someone can go to a dealer and buy one (or at least order for a reasonable delivery timeframe).
Probably two years. Though I don't think they will sell ~400,000 vehicles in those first two years. Being pessimistic, I think they will probably get 100k sales the first two years as other manufacturers will have put out competing vehicles by then.
What other competitors are there? Most are not available until 2020. Tesla has at two more years all to themselves in the luxury EV market.
That's probably a good guess. I also think the excitement will wear off a bit for the average consumer until charging networks are built out more, and the initial wave of EV enthusiasts (who couldn't afford high-end) buy. And, you're absolutely right that that the competition isn't just sitting still... and it isn't all 100% EV either. (ex: my dad was telling me about some van he was interested in, the other day, that is EV drive, with a gas engine... so that kind of hybrid - which is the right way, IMO - has a lot of legs too. I think he was talking 80+ mpg.)
Which would be true if folks would stop comparing the model 3 to the Bolt. But because both have batteries and both go 200 miles to a charge and both costs under 40k, they get compared. So we can add in the yet to be released Leaf 2.0 and it is likely that VW will add more battery capacity to the eGolf to eventually match the distance.
Yeah that is the new Chrysler minivan. Gets like 30 miles EV range and has the gas extender (so it is like the Volt from my understanding).
I hope so. Not sure I am sold on the appearance. But I guess it still looks better than a Nissan Leaf
Why? It has no engine or radiator. Grill is pointless. My revamp S with similar front is still good after 7 months.
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The other manufacturers have zero fast charging infrastructure. I don't like the idea of brand specific charging but at least tesla can use others.
So are the hood-lines on my BMW, but it creates an almost timeless style (most people think my 10+ yr old BMW is a brand new car). Maybe I'm an old foggie, but I think the Model 3 is rather ugly. The S is fairly nice for what it is (in terms of look).
Musk did release the patents on most all of the battery and charging capabilities, in hopes, I believe, of not everyone going out and inventing their own 'wheel'.
This is one of those photos where someone tried way too hard to be artistic, and ruined the pint of the photo to show off the car. You can't see ant about the car here, this is the type of photo you take to showcase rims. Not An entire car.
Sorry for off topic rant
I have the original model s (vin 20100ish) and the new front still looks weird to me.
Tesla is the car I'd buy if money was no object, it would have to be 4x4 though.
There is so much going for Tesla, with this 'reasonably affordable' model I'm sure they will go from strengh to strength.
How does Elon Musk do it!? ...the modern day Thomas Edison.
There is so much going for Tesla, with this 'reasonably affordable' model I'm sure they will go from strengh to strength.
How does Elon Musk do it!? ...the modern day Thomas Edison.
interesting, I thought the Model X was 4x4. or at least All wheel drive.
but yeah, Musk just seems to be one of those guys who can think of a way to solve a problem, and while takes a while, works his ass off to come up with a solution. I would definitely say he's a modern Nicolai Tesla (I'll see myself out)
Great car,if you:
Can deal with the short range and long charging times
Has a ******** of money to spend on a car that only carry your arse from A to B
Or if you just want to go less than 400 kilometres in one day.
I know,it's a good car,but for some of us,it's completely useless.
My daily drive can go for 600 kilometres,then refuel in less than 10 minutes and go for another 600 kilometres,and I can also bring my hunting/fishing/camping gear,a couple of friends and two large dogs with me,and that with something that's less expensive than the tesla. Of course,as I use it for hunting and fishing,it has some terrain driving capability too.
Can deal with the short range and long charging times
Has a ******** of money to spend on a car that only carry your arse from A to B
Or if you just want to go less than 400 kilometres in one day.
I know,it's a good car,but for some of us,it's completely useless.
My daily drive can go for 600 kilometres,then refuel in less than 10 minutes and go for another 600 kilometres,and I can also bring my hunting/fishing/camping gear,a couple of friends and two large dogs with me,and that with something that's less expensive than the tesla. Of course,as I use it for hunting and fishing,it has some terrain driving capability too.
I think they just meant they'd want the AWD model, as would I... which would cost a lot of extra $.
Yea, same here. But, a lot of people don't need more than that. Before I moved to our current location, a Tesla would have worked fine for me for the previous 14 years. And, I'm sure at least 1/2 the population is likely in that class of vehicle needs.
The cost is another thing, for sure. But, the prices will keep coming down. And, there's no reason someone won't eventually come out with a true pick-up truck version, etc.
The technology is just far superior, aside from the range limitations. Even the best AWD systems in traditional cars are kind of lame compared to what you can do with a stepper-motor on each wheel and computer control. (And, a mega-ton of torque!) Top it off with what could potentially be insane simplicity and reliability, and what's the competition?
Battery/range is the real issue right now, and then price. Otherwise, I'm all in, I suppose.
Until then, my 328xi will do just fine.
Even Chevy was smart enough to leave a little chrome on the front of the Corvair.
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I suspect that there'll be a thriving aftermarket for Tesla 3 add-on grilles / font end ornamentation
Heh, maybe. I'm not sure about chrome**, but it needs something (either different body styling, or some kind of detail).
**I've got 2 pieces of chrome on my 328xi, the grille and the '328xi' badge on the back. I'm considering eliminating the chrome grille, as I kinda hate chrome.
(As an aside, I just don't get the little bits of chrome on an otherwise chrome-free car. I'd think people who like chrome would like it in many of the places automakers put it, like door trim, trunk trim, grille, etc. But, my car is nearly black-out besides those two places, from the factory. Luckily, I can fix that for about $35.)
Must be the Chrysler Pacifica. Only plug in hybrid van I know of. Anyhow, both my parents each bought one of the gasoline versions.(Yes, 2 sales between my parents, though they are divorced) Needless to say, the van is incredible. It pretty much kills any reason to buy a 3 row crossover unless you don't want to say you own a minivan.(Same price as a 3 row crossover with more usable cargo space, and an excellent 3rd row seat that is actually comfortable) My dad already put 20,000 miles on his with zero problems. Your dad won't be disappointed.
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I have nothing against electric vehicles,but there is no such transport that can replace a big 4WD Range Rover.I think they just meant they'd want the AWD model, as would I... which would cost a lot of extra $.
Yea, same here. But, a lot of people don't need more than that. Before I moved to our current location, a Tesla would have worked fine for me for the previous 14 years. And, I'm sure at least 1/2 the population is likely in that class of vehicle needs.
The cost is another thing, for sure. But, the prices will keep coming down. And, there's no reason someone won't eventually come out with a true pick-up truck version, etc.
The technology is just far superior, aside from the range limitations. Even the best AWD systems in traditional cars are kind of lame compared to what you can do with a stepper-motor on each wheel and computer control. (And, a mega-ton of torque!) Top it off with what could potentially be insane simplicity and reliability, and what's the competition?
Battery/range is the real issue right now, and then price. Otherwise, I'm all in, I suppose.
Until then, my 328xi will do just fine.