More detailed maybe but looks too round. Persona adds 15 pounds, I guess.
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Testing Improved Vision Pro Personas in visionOS 1.1
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Enough of what people wouldn’t like. What wouldn’t look creepy to you?
I think if it looked exactly like the person it would be creepier. Give me a caricature any day over a photo realistic likeness.
Exactly.
Vision Pro seems like a perfect place for something Apple has had for years... Memojis.
Instead... we get these Personas that are like if you asked someone to draw you from memory.
I still don't get the obsession over these. If you want to have a video call take the thing off and use another device, if you want to have a phone call have a phone call.
Has anyone ever asked for an animated phone call which is what this is? It's adding nothing
Exactly, today we already have almost perfect "deep-fake" generated audio/video, including cloned voices.
Exactly.
Vision Pro seems like a perfect place for something Apple has had for years... Memojis.
Instead... we get these Personas that are like if you asked someone to draw you from memory.
Is it that outside of the realm of believability that many people don’t want to present themselves as a cartoon in critical meetings?
I get the problem with the uncanny valley with these personas and I agree that making them too realistic will be a problem too. But replacing them with Memoji is not a solution. Apple is trying to sell these to adults.
Thing is, it may not be possible to make this concept work. Wearing a headset to do a meeting might just be a failed use case. Notice for example that Apple didn’t demo any of the executive team using it in that way. Perhaps it’s not possible to have your cake and eat it too.
I think it's premature to give hard opinions on this tech that has only been out for 7 days. Maybe give it a few months to improve. A lot of new ideas seem a little shocking when we first encounter them but become much more acceptable as they mainstream with time.
I actually don't think the Persona images look that bad, especially considering how quick they are to set up.
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It's the light beard that you have that is adding some shade to your neck and makes you look thinner. The AVP didn't capture that properly and the artificial lighting is too even and doesn't enhance microcontrasts and overall shading correctly, it's way too soft.
Might be a plus for the ladies looking to have smooth skin, but for men, especially with beards heavy or light it's quite bad.
It's the light beard that you have that is adding some shade to your neck and makes you look thinner. The AVP didn't capture that properly and the artificial lighting is too even and doesn't enhance microcontrasts and overall shading correctly, it's way too soft.
Might be a plus for the ladies looking to have smooth skin, but for men, especially with beards heavy or light it's quite bad.
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They should rebrand it as Watercolorvatar. I'm giving that one for free to Apple.
The fact, that it now allows users to have a chin and facial features is nothing short of groundbreaking.
They'll surely improve it with time.
They'll surely improve it with time.
You're a good sport with some of the comments! Definitely an improvement on the update. Patiently waiting for the Canadian ($5k!) release
Apple is currently testing visionOS 1.1, the first major update to the visionOS operating system that runs on the Vision Pro. visionOS 1.1 updates Personas, and multiple reports suggest the software makes Personas look better than before. We thought we'd take a closer look at Personas in visionOS 1.1, comparing the update to the prior visionOS 1.0.2 software.
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Personas are a key feature on the Vision Pro, representing the user in video calls on FaceTime, Zoom, and other platforms. Personas are a digital representation of the Vision Pro wearer, and are captured using the headset itself. With the Vision Pro, the wearer takes a 3D facial scan that captures their facial structure, expressions, hand movements, and more. Apple describes a Persona as an "authentic spatial representation" of a person.
Apple released Personas in a beta capacity, and it's not hard to see why with the Personas that have been shared on the initial versions of the visionOS software. Reviewers have called personas "deeply weird," "deep in the uncanny valley," "ridiculous," and "frightening."
With visionOS 1.1, Personas have more natural looking eyes, skin tone improvements, and more detail that adds realism, though Apple's scanning feature still struggles with hair.
Most Personas are noticeably better with the 1.1 update, but Apple still needs to do a lot of work to eliminate the otherworldly, unnatural vibe that the virtual representations give off. visionOS 1.1 is available to developers in beta right now, and it will likely see a launch in March alongside iOS 17.4.
The update also adds Contact Key Verification, support for resetting the headset without a computer, and support for mobile device management.
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It reminds me of that painting of Jesus that the lady tried to clean and then made worse.
If Apple truly is amping up its AI systems, this seems like a prime candidate. Seems like it would be able to, essentially, create a "deep-fake" of you. And also, hopefully for me, take a few pounds off? Maybe define my jawline and extend my hairline?
It’s pretty encouraging that they were able to make this big of an improvement in such a short time.
I think Apple will keep making it better while not taking out the uncanny valley effect just so they won’t be accused of making deepfakes. Editing your persona like you can do it in the Sims with adjustments and virtual accessories would be pretty neat though.
That's a good point. Their goal may not be exact not because they can't get close but because they shouldn't. I can see there always being a slightly cartoonish feel to it by design.
Way too creepy looking for me. I would be embarrassed to be on a video call with such crappy rendering. 🫤
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