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Wrong.

OIS is just for photos. For videos we have Cinematic video stabilization.
This has been discussed here a while ago.

Huh. For the longest time I thought OIS was used in the video. Your right though. I went back and re-watched that portion of the keynote. Seems both 6 and 6 Plus have Cinematic Video Stabilization.
 
The iPhone 6 vs 6 Plus is a perfect example of whatever you can do, I can do better. If the iPhone 6 has great battery life, the 6 Plus is still better. If iPhone 6 can take great photos, 6 Plus can take it better without jitter. If the screen on the 6 is beautiful, the 6 Plus is bigger, sharper, and just better to view content and faster texting like on SwiftKey since the keyboard can be taller and wider.

The only two advantages the smaller iPhone 6 has it is smaller for less hand gymnastics to reach certain parts with your one thumb, more pocketable, and lower price which is another reason it is still selling better. But the Note series have never really outsold the S series either although both are quite popular in Asia. I actually also believe the iPhone 6 design looks better for that specific size and more comfortable ergonomics. An IF those reasons is why people picked 6 over 6 Plus, more power to them. Nothing wrong with certain preferences to make a decision.

I really wish Apple can differentiate the two of them more similar to Samsung's S & Notes. Come up with different design schemes or exclusive features. The S5 is waterproof, the Note 4 isn't but has a more powerful SoC, S-Pen, and multi-task windows. Apple should use even more premium materials to the Plus series if people have to pay a premium to get the best version iPhone from a "technical standpoint." Give the 6s Plus line at least 3 GB RAM and bigger difference in battery life. Also improve the one-handed mode like what Asus and Huawei did. They can cram more things in a larger footprint.

But kudos to Apple. They finally listened to customers and entered the phablet market. The iPhone 6 Plus was a gamble. Apple could have just played it safe yet again but they wanted their marketshare to actually grow and they can NOT do that by taking smaller steps while watching their iPad sales declining. I know 6 Plus can easily turn off millions of buyers not used to that size and coming from a 3.5/4-inch iPhone and phablets isn't for everyone but Apple is now reaping the rewards in Asia where it could very much reach 50/50 between sales of big brother vs little brother by next year.
 
The iPhone 6 vs 6 Plus is a perfect example of whatever you can do, I can do better. If the iPhone 6 has great battery life, the 6 Plus is still better. If iPhone 6 can take great photos, 6 Plus can take it better without jitter. If the screen on the 6 is beautiful, the 6 Plus is bigger, sharper, and just better to view content and faster texting like on SwiftKey since the keyboard can be taller and wider.

The only two advantages the smaller iPhone 6 has it is smaller for less hand gymnastics to reach certain parts with your one thumb, more pocketable, and lower price which is another reason it is still selling better. But the Note series have never really outsold the S series either although both are quite popular in Asia. I actually also believe the iPhone 6 design looks better for that specific size and more comfortable ergonomics. An IF those reasons is why people picked 6 over 6 Plus, more power to them. Nothing wrong with certain preferences to make a decision.

I really wish Apple can differentiate the two of them more similar to Samsung's S & Notes. Come up with different design schemes or exclusive features. The S5 is waterproof, the Note 4 isn't but has a more powerful SoC, S-Pen, and multi-task windows. Apple should use even more premium materials to the Plus series if people have to pay a premium to get the best version iPhone from a "technical standpoint." Give the 6s Plus line at least 3 GB RAM and bigger difference in battery life. Also improve the one-handed mode like what Asus and Huawei did. They can cram more things in a larger footprint.

But kudos to Apple. They finally listened to customers and entered the phablet market. The iPhone 6 Plus was a gamble. Apple could have just played it safe yet again but they wanted their marketshare to actually grow and they can NOT do that by taking smaller steps while watching their iPad sales declining. I know 6 Plus can easily turn off millions of buyers not used to that size and coming from a 3.5/4-inch iPhone and phablets isn't for everyone but Apple is now reaping the rewards in Asia where it could very much reach 50/50 between sales of big brother vs little brother by next year.

Of course I would not mind the 6 Plus being smaller considering it is 5.5 and I have a 6 inch phablet that basically is the same size.

Much easier for prior android users to get use to the Plus considering the last iPhone was only 4 inch. I have not had a phone that size since who knows when and it only took me a week to ditch the 5S.

I guess folks use to a 4" iPhone to a 4.7" size is somehow different than going from the 4.7 iphone6 to the 5.5 Plus? :)
 
I think the plus will always be more of a niche product. The 6 will always be the more popular phone because most people will think the plus is too big or prefer the 4.7 form factor.

Personally I find the 6 way too small. As soon as it was announced I knew I'd get the plus. I've been using phones that were 5 inches plus including the note line since 2012 so I know that the 6 is going to be too small. I started off with the original Galaxy note. When I switched to the S4 I found it too small. Similarly when I switched from the note 3 to the S5 I found that on the small side too.
 
My 6 plus still locks up sometimes in landscape and I hope that gets smoothed out
 
Mind if I ask where you read about internal storage issues?

I was initially made aware of it on here. Apparently Apple used TLC flash on some and MLC on others. MLC is supposedly superior with faster read/write and a longer theoretical lifespan.

For me it's been pretty much debunked. There is a way to check (a website you can go to that installs an app of sorts, though I don't remember what) and it reported I had MLC. So obviously that is not my issue.
 
Thank God I got the 6 Plus

Mind if I ask where you read about internal storage issues?


There was a rumor several months ago, probably being spread by Apple's competitors, that the RAM in the higher capacity iPhone 6 models was defective. It was not true. But there are people here in this forum, perhaps working for those competitors, who keep it going. Just ignore. I myself have one of the supposedly affected models since launch and haven't had the slightest problem with it.
 
There was a rumor several months ago, probably being spread by Apple's competitors, that the RAM in the higher capacity iPhone 6 models was defective. It was not true. But there are people here in this forum, perhaps working for those competitors, who keep it going. Just ignore. I myself have one of the supposedly affected models since launch and haven't had the slightest problem with it.

Actually, 1) it wasn't the RAM, it was the storage, and 2) it hasn't been disproven. There's a fair bit of correlation between crashing and TLC.
 
I was initially made aware of it on here. Apparently Apple used TLC flash on some and MLC on others. MLC is supposedly superior with faster read/write and a longer theoretical lifespan.

For me it's been pretty much debunked. There is a way to check (a website you can go to that installs an app of sorts, though I don't remember what) and it reported I had MLC. So obviously that is not my issue.
Actually the TLC has a faster read/write but it's been said to cause issues for some users. I have a 128gb 6+ (all 128gb are TLC) and I haven't had a single issue. I think people blew the whole TLC vs MLC thing way out of proportion. If you have problems get it fixed if not don't worry about it.

Edit: I'm sorry I got confused, MLC is "faster".
 
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It's been about 4 months since I got my iPhone 6, and I'm waiting for the moment that someone I know complains about the size of their 6 Plus and wants to trade with me.

I'd love to be able to trade my Gold 6 plus some cash (64GB) for a 6+ (64GB) -- but I haven't been lucky in finding someone to do it yet!! Hopefully one day!

That being said, I am incredibly happy with my iPhone 6 and if I'm stuck with it until my next upgrade for the iPhone 7, I'll still be happy with my 6.
 
I first went with the 6 plus and while I loved the screen and battery life after a few months I just got tired of the size. I switched to the 6 and couldn't be happier. I can actually use my phone one handed again, the 6 hits the sweet spot for me. If I want a big screen i'll just use my iPad Air.

The camera is such a pleasure to use. I've taken it on a ski trip recently and the pictures come out so crisp and clear. Sure the 6 plus might be a slightly better device, but the 6 just feels so much more comfortable to hold and is a huge upgrade from my 5. :apple:
 
Actually, 1) it wasn't the RAM, it was the storage, and 2) it hasn't been disproven. There's a fair bit of correlation between crashing and TLC.


Maybe for some but my own experience indicates that the problem is limited only to certain phones and not others. Maybe there was a bad batch but not a fundamental design flaw. Otherwise I would have experienced it too. And after 4 months of use I have seen no problems at all.
 
Huh. For the longest time I thought OIS was used in the video. Your right though. I went back and re-watched that portion of the keynote. Seems both 6 and 6 Plus have Cinematic Video Stabilization.

I wonder how this works, can anyone explain? I had assumed that OIS is a physical thing therefore is always in use. Does the lens "lock" in place when video is being taken?

Genuinely curious.
 
Maybe for some but my own experience indicates that the problem is limited only to certain phones and not others. Maybe there was a bad batch but not a fundamental design flaw. Otherwise I would have experienced it too. And after 4 months of use I have seen no problems at all.

Yea that's my opinion as well. Gonna go with "bad batch."
 
The iPhone 6 vs 6 Plus is a perfect example of whatever you can do, I can do better.

while I under stand your point of view I have to disagree, the 6 vs. 6 plus is another example of the 6 being able to do everything the 6Plus can

The 6 plus has an awesome screen no doubt, but the 6 screen is also incredible and at normal viewing angle (ie. normal usage) I couldn't tell the difference.

The camera on the 6 plus is great, but so is the one on the 6. The difference is so minute even in low light that i can comfortably say that the 6 can take any photo that the 6 plus can.

the battery is a big deal on the 6 plus. sure. But i end the day on my 6 at around 25-30%. after work, then going out after work. since i charge my phone every day - and so does everyone else pretty much, everything the 6 plus can do, i can do on my 6.

the reverse isnt true, i can use my 6 with 1 hand, i cant on the 6 plus.

this is in contrast to the example you pointed out. the Note can do more than the S series can - they are actually different products. not just the same product, stretched 4 ways.
 
I wonder how this works, can anyone explain? I had assumed that OIS is a physical thing therefore is always in use. Does the lens "lock" in place when video is being taken?

Genuinely curious.
Watch the video in the review. Video stabilization is pretty apparent.
http://techcrunch.com/2014/09/17/life-is-tough/
 
Watch the video in the review. Video stabilization is pretty apparent.
http://techcrunch.com/2014/09/17/life-is-tough/

If you're referring to the video, that's Cinematic Video Stabilzation, which both the 6 and the 6+ have, not OIS (which is found only in 6+ and not used in video). Notice that they were comparing the standard iPhone 6 to a point and shoot video.
 
If you're referring to the video, that's Cinematic Video Stabilzation, which both the 6 and the 6+ have, not OIS (which is found only in 6+ and not used in video). Notice that they were comparing the standard iPhone 6 to a point and shoot video.


The difference in the camera between the 6 and the 6+ is not likely to have made any difference in people's choice of phone. It's all about size. I know the camera was not a factor for me. I just wanted the larger screen.
 
Thank God I got the 6!! Saw a lady the other day at Costco with a 6+. She was juggling it trying to send a text. Seeing her struggling just reaffirmed my decision that the 6 is the best damn phone out there right now! The perfect size too!
 
The difference in the camera between the 6 and the 6+ is not likely to have made any difference in people's choice of phone. It's all about size. I know the camera was not a factor for me. I just wanted the larger screen.

That'd be true for normal people but obviously many shallow members here who were going to get the 6 decided to opt for the 6+ because they couldn't bear not to get the top of the line (including OIS which hardly makes a real world difference).
 
If you're referring to the video, that's Cinematic Video Stabilzation, which both the 6 and the 6+ have, not OIS (which is found only in 6+ and not used in video). Notice that they were comparing the standard iPhone 6 to a point and shoot video.
That's right, video stabilization is a software feature. The only hardware needed to measure the vibratory motion and compensate for it in the software is the acceleration sensor. Because video resolution is so much lower than the sensor capability, software can overscan the video and then adjust for motion sensed from the accelerometer as it's saved.
 
That's right, video stabilization is a software feature. The only hardware needed to measure the vibratory motion and compensate for it in the software is the acceleration sensor. Because video resolution is so much lower than the sensor capability, software can overscan the video and then adjust for motion sensed from the accelerometer as it's saved.


I looked at the photos with and without image stabilization. Damned if I can see the difference. Of course the video was very obvious even if it was sort of an apples to oranges comparison.
 
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