I live in a big city in Germany and have yet to see one in the wild.Do you live in a rural area?
I live in a big city in Germany and have yet to see one in the wild.Do you live in a rural area?
You didn't live through "Hi, I'm a Mac" commercial era......Promoting your products by mocking others is just so distasteful imo. I’ve never understood brands that do this, and Samsung seems bent on doing it with Apple right now. If anything it makes me NOT want your products even more…
If I recall correctly, Apple fans loved those at the time. Times have changed I guess, now that someone is mocking Apple.You didn't live through "Hi, I'm a Mac" commercial era......
10 Million Samsung folding phones compared to 1.39 Billion smartphone sales in 2021. But it’s still at beta stage. If it were any good, and people actually wanted them and the price wasn’t ridiculous, the sales would be higher. People are not being 'different' in buying this, they are being swallowed by 'consumer hype' of being different.
I don’t disagree with your use case, but it’s at the fringe of consumers who see it being a “problem” to have a phone sized screen and because of that want the ability to have a device convert into a tablet. I could easily argue that there are likely far more people who don’t want a larger phone screen, just based upon the sales volumes of these foldables vs standard sized smart phones. Of course this limited volume is in large part due to the higher cost of these devices, which is also why it’s the fringe of users willing to try them in the first place.
And I’m not going to back down on the other reasons why any foldable phone is problematic, in the same way that the foldables back in the early 2000’s all died off. Any hinge is a mechanical failure point waiting to happen. That includes the metal components of the hinge itself as well as the wiring between the sections, the screen, the screen‘s UTG and its clear film cover. And just the change in radius between the back of the screen and the front of the clear film cover is great enough to create stretch and compression between the layers during the fold and unfold process is adding more stress to the hinge (of the entire screen materials).
Yes, I know Samsung tested them in their labs to hundreds of thousands of folds, but a lab is one thing and a lint, coin, key, dust, sand, etc. filled pocket is altogether different and adds exponentially more reasons some component of it will fail.
You’re willing to live with it and it sounds like you love yours, which is great for you. I’m not willing to take those risks and that won’t change even if Apple were to offer a foldable iPhone.
May be not every one want to carry a thick phone that can be used as a tablet ?
at the end of the data it is personal preference.
I prefer iPhone mini, even iPhone Pro is too big and heavy for me.
When I was in India (Delhi) a few years ago, it was very Samsung forward. I maybe saw 2-3 iPhones in the areas I was in (ranging from very rich to very poor), everyone had a Samsung device and all the commercials were Samsung. I even had people just coming up to me when I was using my phone, asking why I had an iPhone when Samsung is better. It was all very strange.It always baffles me how Samsung thinks people could be bullied into buying their product.
"Oh you don't use Samsung? That's so dumb! You're so dumb!" is basically their message in every commercial.
Try a ruler or measuring device, they work really well. But in case scientific stuff isn't your thing, here's how much the Fold 4 has "roughly the same screen size as a normal phone," well actually has a much larger screen size than one of the largest non foldable phones on the market is more accurate.
I remember when most people in this forum did not want a phone bigger than 4.5 inches because they look stupid big...
Are these posts real, you can't imagine any reasons, really, a cover screen that can allow you to do basic phone functions, reply to texts, take calls, check calendar, play music, stock quotes, weather, allows one to accomplish basic tasks without the temptation to get lost on your smartphone.
A folding phone allows you to carry a full size smartphone in a compact flip phone format.
You can prop up the phone to watch videos and do other things with apps that figure out ways to utilize that feature.
Yep, I remember Apple mocking Windows Vista for its Cancel or Allow dialogs.Hi, I'm a PC.
In India and most other parts of the developing world price is priority that is why Android (Samsung) phones are better because they are overall cheaper. When per capita incomes is under $20k or yikes below $10k USD it makes perfect sense. You can get an android device for a fraction of the cost of an iPhone making it better in their eyes. Most android devices can be almost as good and in some ways better than an Apple device. Many in other parts of the world care less about status symbols, security, and build quality. So the android device can be just as good or better.When I was in India (Delhi) a few years ago, it was very Samsung forward. I maybe saw 2-3 iPhones in the areas I was in (ranging from very rich to very poor), everyone had a Samsung device and all the commercials were Samsung. I even had people just coming up to me when I was using my phone, asking why I had an iPhone when Samsung is better. It was all very strange.
I went into an iStore (their version of an Apple Store) when I needed something for my laptop, and the sales associates all had Samsung phones and were looking at my phone like it was garbage.
Perhaps it’s changed now, but I think in other parts of the world, Apple isn’t the coveted, top brand.
Werd. Haven't seen one in the wild yet. Clearly they're not selling well, though that's expected at such a price.
I’ll wait to see how many of those folding display show creases after a few months use.
Samsung this week released a new anti-Apple "On the Fence" ad that once again targets Apple's lack of foldable devices. In the spot, a man sits on a fence overlooking a retail store designed to look like an Apple Store.
"Hey, what are you doing up there?" asks an Apple-like employee. "You can't sit on the fence." "But on the Samsung side, they have folding phones and epic cameras," replies the man. His speech attracts another "Apple" customer interested in foldable devices, while the fake Apple employee tries to talk him out of leaving. "We're waiting for all that to come over here," explains the employee.
"Why? It's already over there," replies the potential Samsung customer. "Because that's what we do. We wait," says the fake Apple employee.
Samsung has a long history of poking fun at Apple in its ad spots and insulting Apple devices in order to promote its own products. Samsung's Anti-Apple ads have picked up in recent months, with Samsung focusing heavily on the fact that Apple has not yet come out with a foldable device.
Samsung in September, for example, launched a first-to-foldables campaign mocking the iPhone's lack of innovation while promoting Galaxy Z Fold and Z Flip features. "What's the hold on the Fold, Apple?" Samsung asked. Samsung also encouraged people to "join the Flip side," choosing a Samsung Galaxy Z Flip device over the iPhone 14 models.
There's no word as of yet on when Apple might come out with some kind of foldable device, and Samsung has indeed been selling foldable smartphones since 2019. Early Fold devices had a long list of issues with screen quality and durability, which perhaps explains why Apple has waited to come out with a foldable device.
Newer foldables from Samsung are more durable and have fewer issues, but continue to have high price points ranging from $900 for the latest Z Flip to $1,600 for the latest Z Fold.
Article Link: 'That's What We Do, We Wait' Says Fake Apple Employee in New Samsung Ad Mocking Lack of Foldable iPhone
The phones in the two images you posted look absolutely nothing like the phone in the referenced ad.
Now that you made me get all scientific about it I have had to look at the specs.
It appears the phone in the ad is a Samsung Galaxy Z Flip4, which has a 6.7" FHD+ Dynamic AMOLED 2X Infinity Flex 2640×1080 display.
In comparison, the iPhone 14 Pro has a Super Retina XDR 6.7" 2796×1290 display.
The iPhone screen is the same size but has 755640 more pixels, or roughly a 25% increase.
The volume of the iPhone is about 98 cubic centimeters. The Flip4 is about 101 cubic centimeters when folded (based on an average between the hinge end and the sagging end which isn't as thick) which of course is more.
So the iPhone has a significantly better screen at the same size and a 3% smaller pocket volume.
I'll send your "Duh" right back to you.
(Now the Fold4 looks like a much more interesting concept which I absolutely can see a use case for, but once again, this is not the phone shown folding in the ad, which is the topic of this thread.)
Yeah, and they still do. I held on to my iPhone 4s for a long time, until I caved and got the 5s for other reasons. I then skipped the 6 and 6s entirely due to size. I would easily pay thousands of dollars to get the 13 mini internals I have now in a 3G/3GS form factor with an edge-to-edge display.
All those things can be done just as easily from a lock screen of a normal phone. (Or a watch, which means you don't need to get the phone out at all.)
As noted above the volume is larger than the iPhone 14 Pro. Is half as high and twice as thick easier to carry? I guess, if you have really small but stretchy pockets.
Really? You need the phone to fold in order to prop it up? And in doing so, you choose to sacrifice half your screen size? For watching video? That sounds like a truly AMAZING experience. 🤦♂️
This reminds me of watching CSI on a plane in 2005 on the 5th gen iPod's 320×240 display. I had to bring my own kickstand though, so I guess it was a little worse.
Justin Long was lame in those ads. John Hodgman was funnier.Uh ... are you familiar with the entire Apple vs. Microsoft commercials starring Justin Long? All's fair in playful advertising.