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'That's What We Do, We Wait' Says Fake Apple Employee in New Samsung Ad Mocking Lack of Foldable iPhone
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You didn't live through "Hi, I'm a Mac" commercial era......
I think people are missing Samsung's point. Apple have both past and present have either boasted, made claims and advertised themselves as a forward thinking, always on the edge of todays technology, a technical powerhouse company and yet they do not have a folding iphone product, a product (folding mobile phone) that whilst still in it's infancy is at the cutting edge of today's technology where other manufacturers who do not go around making the same high level boasts that Apple does, do have folding mobile phone products. The issue of their reliabilty is for a different discussion but the fact remains that non-boasting companies have folding mobile phone products and a company does like to go around boasting of their achievements (Apple) does not.
If I recall correctly, Apple fans loved those at the time. Times have changed I guess, now that someone is mocking Apple.
Well. You can’t say this ad isn’t triggering haha. Even though I have no desire for a foldable, as an Apple user, we do indeed “wait” quite a while. In another year, we might get USB-C!
Wrong. Why? Because I didn't buy my Fold because of "consumer hype." I purchased it because I saw an opportunity to enrich my personal and work life with a better device. You can make all the assumptions you want about those 10 million purchases, but your assumptions about my personal use case are dead wrong.
Maybe if Apple would make something new and different every once in a while. I know you all love giving them your annual $1k for the same rehashed designs running an OS that gets uglier every year....but come on....there hadn't been a major design revamp in a long long time. The current models are just an ugly iPhone 4 derivative. The foldables are in the wild and I see them all the time around here. Sorry but the iPhone elitism around here sometimes is just as cringe as these commercials. It's like dude that gets into the cool kids club and needs to remind everyone about it to reinforce the dudes own insecurities. Apple doesn't always have to be the best, right, or infallible. You don't need to be a corporate mouthpiece in fear that Tim will throw you out of the Apple club. As long as you give him money you are always welcome.
Samsung made a really cool device and instead of acknowledging it for what it is and asking when Apple will move the bar again....you bash it and act like elitists with nothing to follow it up with. Apple is the one sitting around selling rehashed bunk here and should be questioned, not Samsung.
Samsung made a really cool device and instead of acknowledging it for what it is and asking when Apple will move the bar again....you bash it and act like elitists with nothing to follow it up with. Apple is the one sitting around selling rehashed bunk here and should be questioned, not Samsung.
I disagree that it's a fringe of consumers, it's just that the foldable paradigm isn't at the same level as a regular phone/tablet, and I've never denied that. You are back tracking in your breakdown, singling out today's Galaxy Fold when your original statement alluded to the entire paradigm of having a larger screen with a smaller footprint. But it's quite apparent consumers want larger phones seeing how the phablet has taken off in today's larger phones. It's one thing to say today's foldables are not durable enough for yourself, that's completely fair, but it's quite another to say that it's a solution in search of a problem.
Again I don't disagree with the durability issue, although the earlier Folds have been tested to be able to withstand hundreds of thousands of folds, I did the math a while ago and I don't fully recall but I think it was like 50 folds/day for 10 years (and that was 2 generations ago!). I've had iPhones with hardware failures WELL before that time, but that doesn't make me question the paradigm of a smartphone. Hardware is hardware, never perfect and prone to malfunction occasionally. If there was a widespread problem with the Folds, now in its 4th generation and 10 million sold, you would think it would be in the news. No I don't mean the occasional Reddit post or youtube video of a screen failure, I mean a bona fide news story with facts. So all that "Fold phones are not durable" crap is just FUD and nothing else with no proof to back it up.
So again, you are not willing to live with the risks of a today's folding phones, nothing wrong with that decision in the least. But again, extrapolating your fear of your phone breaking to saying the Fold is a solution in search of a problem are two quite different things and highly disingenuous.
Would I use a foldable? Sure. Would I use a foldable running anything other than iOS...Nope.
Absolutely, nothing wrong with those decisions at all. My issue isn't with consumers not liking the form factor, durability, brand, etc. My issue is with those who have their blinders on so tight they can't what the paradigm solves for some consumers. An inperfect solution? Sure, no debate about that. But still a solution to carrying a larger screen with a smaller footprint.
When I was in India (Delhi) a few years ago, it was very Samsung forward. I maybe saw 2-3 iPhones in the areas I was in (ranging from very rich to very poor), everyone had a Samsung device and all the commercials were Samsung. I even had people just coming up to me when I was using my phone, asking why I had an iPhone when Samsung is better. It was all very strange.
I went into an iStore (their version of an Apple Store) when I needed something for my laptop, and the sales associates all had Samsung phones and were looking at my phone like it was garbage.
Perhaps it’s changed now, but I think in other parts of the world, Apple isn’t the coveted, top brand.
I had the Fold 2 and 3 and loved it. Also carried a iP11 PM as my secondary phone.
Traded the Fold 3 for the S22 Ultra, mainly because of the Camera and S-pen slot.
Traded the iP11 PM for the iP14 PM and now use it as my main phone, and my S22 Ultra as my secondary.
Now I want a Samsung Flip to replace the S22 Ultra, due to it's compactness. But I'm waiting until next gen.
It's still possible I'll go with the Fold again if the next gen Flip specs is still too low for my liking.
Traded the Fold 3 for the S22 Ultra, mainly because of the Camera and S-pen slot.
Traded the iP11 PM for the iP14 PM and now use it as my main phone, and my S22 Ultra as my secondary.
Now I want a Samsung Flip to replace the S22 Ultra, due to it's compactness. But I'm waiting until next gen.
It's still possible I'll go with the Fold again if the next gen Flip specs is still too low for my liking.
These foldable phones really are not quite ready for the mainstream. They are a niche product and the reliability is far from stellar. Just read all the horror reviews of the newest Galaxy Z fold or flip fold. The hinge is the weak spot from a reliability point. Not to mention the crease is always visible and as the phone ages the crease usually becomes more pronounced. The material and technology that allow for a foldable screen do not play well with image quality or durability. A non foldable screen will always win out on durability and image quality.
You got tons of horror stories of folks with screen or hinge issues on the foldable phones that are just a few weeks to a few months old. I just replaced my 5 year old iPhone X with ~1200 charge cycles. Not even a dead pixel, 78% battery health and just superficial scratches no cracks at all. Been dropped dozens of times albeit always in a case. I highly doubt any of these foldable phones will be able to last 2-3 years without breaking or having major issues.
I got a regular iPhone 14 Pro now that replaced my iPhone X. I actually feel that it is a little too big. Part of me actually would not mind a mini if it wasn’t for trade offs in battery life and features.
I never understood folks who need the largest screen sizes possible from a phone. They go for phablet form factors and now foldable screens with 6.5-7 inch plus screen sizes. Portability just goes out the window, they are cumbersome all the while providing a less than immersive tablet experience.
Want a big screen that actually lets you get serious work done and enjoy immersive entertainment? Then Most people would be better suited on a tablet with a 10 inch plus screen or just get a laptop.
Thats just me. I use my iPhone like a smartphone. Working on complex spreadsheets, documents, multitasking, gaming, binging on streaming content etc. I grab my iPad Pro or laptop.
You got tons of horror stories of folks with screen or hinge issues on the foldable phones that are just a few weeks to a few months old. I just replaced my 5 year old iPhone X with ~1200 charge cycles. Not even a dead pixel, 78% battery health and just superficial scratches no cracks at all. Been dropped dozens of times albeit always in a case. I highly doubt any of these foldable phones will be able to last 2-3 years without breaking or having major issues.
I got a regular iPhone 14 Pro now that replaced my iPhone X. I actually feel that it is a little too big. Part of me actually would not mind a mini if it wasn’t for trade offs in battery life and features.
I never understood folks who need the largest screen sizes possible from a phone. They go for phablet form factors and now foldable screens with 6.5-7 inch plus screen sizes. Portability just goes out the window, they are cumbersome all the while providing a less than immersive tablet experience.
Want a big screen that actually lets you get serious work done and enjoy immersive entertainment? Then Most people would be better suited on a tablet with a 10 inch plus screen or just get a laptop.
Thats just me. I use my iPhone like a smartphone. Working on complex spreadsheets, documents, multitasking, gaming, binging on streaming content etc. I grab my iPad Pro or laptop.
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They can have it. I have zero interest in a foldable iPhone or a foldable anything.
The phones in the two images you posted look absolutely nothing like the phone in the referenced ad.
Now that you made me get all scientific about it I have had to look at the specs.
It appears the phone in the ad is a Samsung Galaxy Z Flip4, which has a 6.7" FHD+ Dynamic AMOLED 2X Infinity Flex 2640×1080 display.
In comparison, the iPhone 14 Pro has a Super Retina XDR 6.7" 2796×1290 display.
The iPhone screen is the same size but has 755640 more pixels, or roughly a 25% increase.
The volume of the iPhone is about 98 cubic centimeters. The Flip4 is about 101 cubic centimeters when folded (based on an average between the hinge end and the sagging end which isn't as thick) which of course is more.
So the iPhone has a significantly better screen at the same size and a 3% smaller pocket volume.
I'll send your "Duh" right back to you.
(Now the Fold4 looks like a much more interesting concept which I absolutely can see a use case for, but once again, this is not the phone shown folding in the ad, which is the topic of this thread.)
Yeah, and they still do. I held on to my iPhone 4s for a long time, until I caved and got the 5s for other reasons. I then skipped the 6 and 6s entirely due to size. I would easily pay thousands of dollars to get the 13 mini internals I have now in a 3G/3GS form factor with an edge-to-edge display.
All those things can be done just as easily from a lock screen of a normal phone. (Or a watch, which means you don't need to get the phone out at all.)
As noted above the volume is larger than the iPhone 14 Pro. Is half as high and twice as thick easier to carry? I guess, if you have really small but stretchy pockets.
Really? You need the phone to fold in order to prop it up? And in doing so, you choose to sacrifice half your screen size? For watching video? That sounds like a truly AMAZING experience. 🤦♂️
This reminds me of watching CSI on a plane in 2005 on the 5th gen iPod's 320×240 display. I had to bring my own kickstand though, so I guess it was a little worse.
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Are they holding actual Apple devices in that ad? *Apple fires up it's lawyers*
Yep, I remember Apple mocking Windows Vista for its Cancel or Allow dialogs.
Now it's macOS that keeps asking for permissions, even for simple downloads from trusted sites.
macOS is the new Windows Vista, just worse:
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In India and most other parts of the developing world price is priority that is why Android (Samsung) phones are better because they are overall cheaper. When per capita incomes is under $20k or yikes below $10k USD it makes perfect sense. You can get an android device for a fraction of the cost of an iPhone making it better in their eyes. Most android devices can be almost as good and in some ways better than an Apple device. Many in other parts of the world care less about status symbols, security, and build quality. So the android device can be just as good or better.
Also much easier to get service and replacement for android devices at much cheaper prices. The rest of the world is not like the US with extensive apple support and Apple stores in every major mall.
If I lived in India, Brazil, Indonesia, etc. I would probably be using an android device as well.
I've seen a few. One of my co-workers has one and I've noticed some others. Every single one, you can see that ugly crease in the middle from even relatively far distances. Trash product.
I’ll wait to see how many of those folding display show creases after a few months use.
Samsung this week released a new anti-Apple "On the Fence" ad that once again targets Apple's lack of foldable devices. In the spot, a man sits on a fence overlooking a retail store designed to look like an Apple Store.
"Hey, what are you doing up there?" asks an Apple-like employee. "You can't sit on the fence." "But on the Samsung side, they have folding phones and epic cameras," replies the man. His speech attracts another "Apple" customer interested in foldable devices, while the fake Apple employee tries to talk him out of leaving. "We're waiting for all that to come over here," explains the employee.
"Why? It's already over there," replies the potential Samsung customer. "Because that's what we do. We wait," says the fake Apple employee.
Samsung has a long history of poking fun at Apple in its ad spots and insulting Apple devices in order to promote its own products. Samsung's Anti-Apple ads have picked up in recent months, with Samsung focusing heavily on the fact that Apple has not yet come out with a foldable device.
Samsung in September, for example, launched a first-to-foldables campaign mocking the iPhone's lack of innovation while promoting Galaxy Z Fold and Z Flip features. "What's the hold on the Fold, Apple?" Samsung asked. Samsung also encouraged people to "join the Flip side," choosing a Samsung Galaxy Z Flip device over the iPhone 14 models.
There's no word as of yet on when Apple might come out with some kind of foldable device, and Samsung has indeed been selling foldable smartphones since 2019. Early Fold devices had a long list of issues with screen quality and durability, which perhaps explains why Apple has waited to come out with a foldable device.
Newer foldables from Samsung are more durable and have fewer issues, but continue to have high price points ranging from $900 for the latest Z Flip to $1,600 for the latest Z Fold.
Article Link: 'That's What We Do, We Wait' Says Fake Apple Employee in New Samsung Ad Mocking Lack of Foldable iPhone
OK so you were talking about the Flip and not the Fold, completely different then and I understand your post.