The 16gb Iphone 6s is a slap in the face to consumers

[Paddle1]

8GB iPhone models exist, which means people buy it or it would be gone by now. If people can use 8GB I'm sure there are lots of people who can get by with 16 with no problems.

Yes, more storage would be nice, but it's not as big of an issue as people make it out to be, at least not yet.

 

[JohnApples]

8GB iPhone models exist, which means people buy it or it would be gone by now. If people can use 8GB I'm sure there are lots of people who can get by with 16 with no problems.

Yes, more storage would be nice, but it's not as big of an issue as people make it out to be, at least not yet.

I understand where you're coming from, but I disagree.

You assume that people buy the 8GB (closer to 5GB actual storage) iPhone because they see it and think "that's all I need". The 8GB, and by extension 16GB, models sell more because they are cheaper. That's all.

I'm not going to deny that some people are fine with 16GB, and are light users who view it as a non-issue. But to me, there's no excuse why a $650 flagship device, touted as the most advanced and powerful, comes with such a lackluster amount of storage. It's even more so ridiculous for the $750 iPhone 6 Plus base model.

The iPhone is the ONLY flagship device that still tests at a 16GB base. The rest of the industry is there, whether people use it or not, because that's how tech works as it advances. I'd rather Apple keep their storage specs up to date, rather than wait for 16GB to become a widespread issue, THEN finally upgrade the base.

 

[recoil80]

I dont know about everyone else, but i was originally planning to buy two iphone 6s 128gb phones but now that they released a photo showing that the new 6s is only 16gb i'm really turned off from apple from this point on. I understand the need to please shareholders, but there comes a point when the obvious (greed) becomes to much to continue to support.

I really understand how you feel and to be honest I felt the same last year when I expected the storage to double at the same price.
I was disappointed but in the end I bought the iPhone, I need iOS (I'm an app developer) so I have to buy Apple's stuff.
They are greedy and I was really pissed off by the 16GB and 1GB of RAM. This year they're going to put a decent amount of RAM, I guess we'll have to wait for a decent storage.
16GB are fine for a good percentage of users, I understand that. And I think it would be the right amount of storage to offer to the old models (the $99 one and the "free") once the new iPhone is out. Instead they put a measly 8GB on their base model, at least they did in 2014, and they keep 16GB for the brand new model. In 2015 it is quite ridiculous, but they keep selling phone and business in doing great for them, so I guess they can ignore our rant.

 

[5105973]

8GB iPhone models exist, which means people buy it or it would be gone by now. If people can use 8GB I'm sure there are lots of people who can get by with 16 with no problems.

Yes, more storage would be nice, but it's not as big of an issue as people make it out to be, at least not yet.

The 8GB iPhones are the older smaller ones and I think the people who buy them use them primarily for calls and texts. A lot of people who went for the new phablet sized iPhones went for it thinking of expanding their usage. And my sister-in-law didn't even really change her usage habits all that much when she moved from her base IPhone 5S to the base IPhone 6Plus. Yet she still ran into problems.

(And she and I both ran into web surfing problems I believe are related to insufficient 1GB RAM. It's THAT insult that had me wanting to test drive a Samsung. Upgrading to the iPhone 6S generation is basically rewarding Apple for handicapping the phone with obsolete specs. If I weren't on AT&T Next I'd be out of luck. As it is, I think I'm out about $45 in upgrade fees or some such hogwash. I don't know, I'll have to go read the fine print.)

I could forgive Apple offering a 16GB iPhone 6 and even a 6S, for the budget conscious. But it's ludicrous putting such low storage on the 6Plus. I really hope their competitors start taking a poke at them for that IF the rumors about the new IPhone 6Plus models having 16GB base storage are true.

 

[rui no onna]

You assume that people buy the 8GB (closer to 5GB actual storage) iPhone because they see it and think "that's all I need". The 8GB, and by extension 16GB, models sell more because they are cheaper. That's all.

The ridiculous thing about the 8GB model was that you couldn't even do an OTA update unless the phone was practically empty. I get that low-end models have the lowest margins. Still, when free space required for OTA update has jumped from 500MB-1GB to 3-5GB and with iOS taking up a lot more room, I think that's a sign that Apple needs to upgrade their base model storage.

 

[recoil80]

I could forgive Apple offering a 16GB iPhone 6 and even a 6S, for the budget conscious. But it's ludicrous putting such low storage on the 6Plus. I really hope their competitors start taking a poke at them for that IF the rumors about the new IPhone 6Plus models having 16GB base storage are true.

The Plus ought to start with 32GB. Customers are already paying $100 more so the phone is really expensive and putting a measly 16GB of storage is ridiculous.

 

[Klaatu63]

I'll be getting the 16gb model. I'm not someone that has that many apps (I have maybe 10 I downloaded at most), and most of my photos I delete as I transfer them to my computer and Dropbox. On my current 16gb iPhone 6 I still have 5gb space free. Honestly, I know a lot of people like me who just don't use that much space. I'm not saying they shouldn't upgrade to 32, but it's a non issue for me.

I agree completely, I use my iPhone as a temporary holding area - mostly for photos, uploading and managing my collection on my iMac. My music collection resides on a separate USB drive so all in all 16GB is plenty.

 

[CTHarrryH]

I have no problem with 16GB on my current iPhone (have a little over 1 GB free) - don't see any reason to get larger than 16 GB and spend extra money

 

[5105973]

I was just checking out reviews of the Samsung Galaxy S6 Active on an At&T site. Many users were complaining directly to Samsing that that model has only 32 GB of storage of which only 25 GB is available to use. The response they get is that 32GB is sufficient with the new Googles Photos and other cloud storage options. The non rugged version comes with normal tiered high storage options but that version is plagued with terrible battery life.

So Samsung is also playing this "Use the cloud" game as a solution to inadequate (for frustrated users) storage options. People are also frustrated by a memory leak problem Samsung has shown no interest in fixing so far.

Samsung was the best rival I could find to iPhone 6 and 6 Plus so far. I do have an Apple watch so I am not in a position to boycott this generation of iPhone without losing out on that investment. I'll keep apprised of competing models between now and IPhone 7 so if I end up feeling disgusted enough at more of their antics I'll be able to leave to a solid alternative. To be honest though, I don't think that's going to happen. The Android market is in kind of a mess right now. And is Windows Phone even still viable anymore?

 

[doitdada]

You should add a 5th option in your poll.
"I don't care about local storage. I stream or cloud everything."

If you have kids and a job? How do you manage to organise your large collections of videos, photos and music?

It's cheaper to buy the 16GB and maintain a 1TB business dropbox with 5 users each year, than to go for the top tier in storage from Apple. Also more convenient. After streaming/cloud I can't really understand the lust for local storage. The obsession to record every inch of each moment doesn't make sense if you aren't making plans to eventually share it with someone.

Data plans are expensive, but also the only reason to acquire an iPhone.

 

[Broadus]

You should add a 5th option in your poll.
"I don't care about local storage. I stream or cloud everything."

If you have kids and a job? How do you manage to organise your large collections of videos, photos and music?

It's cheaper to buy the 16GB and maintain a 1TB business dropbox with 5 users each year, than to go for the top tier in storage from Apple. Also more convenient. After streaming/cloud I can't really understand the lust for local storage. The obsession to record every inch of each moment doesn't make sense if you aren't making plans to eventually share it with someone.

Data plans are expensive, but also the only reason to acquire an iPhone.

Many of us don't need large data plans because we're on WiFi a great deal of the time. For instance, I use a prepay plan with 500 MB data per month. That easily handles my needs, though I realize it's insufficient for many if not most people.

Plus, I've been in places where a data connection was not available. Frankly, I want the freedom to have access to my "stuff" with or without a connection.

 

[doitdada]

Frankly, I want the freedom to have access to my "stuff" with or without a connection.

Good point, but that isnt very likely in 2015. Ive used mobile broadband and cellular data exclusively since 2011. Both in Sweden and Norway. Everything from small villages to capitals. Very seldom an issue. Not looking back.

500MB may cover you in cities with cafes and offices, but it doesnt get you very far in rural locations. Personally I dont see the point with wifi or lan, except for desktop computing. I also have an unlimited plan, so that may be a big part of my preference.

 

[5105973]

You should add a 5th option in your poll.
"I don't care about local storage. I stream or cloud everything."

If you have kids and a job? How do you manage to organise your large collections of videos, photos and music?

It's cheaper to buy the 16GB and maintain a 1TB business dropbox with 5 users each year, than to go for the top tier in storage from Apple. Also more convenient. After streaming/cloud I can't really understand the lust for local storage. The obsession to record every inch of each moment doesn't make sense if you aren't making plans to eventually share it with someone.

Data plans are expensive, but also the only reason to acquire an iPhone.

The USA is a huge diverse country. People working and living where Wi-Fi is ubiquitous and cell towers abound and fiber optic ISP's promise high speed high capacity data service forget that's not the living and working conditions for a still-significant portion of the U.S. Population. I'm not that far from a major business corridor, but I'm still in an agricultural reserve. I only just got decent signal strength from AT&T a few months after I got my IPhone 6Plus. I do have good fiber optic Internet. But had I bought a house I was looking at over in the next town, I wouldn't have had that or good cell coverage --and that's within a mere 20 minute drive from an Apple Store.

I had the good fortune over the past few months to travel to some beautiful areas of the country from Utah to the Carolinas. Streaming and using the cloud aren't pretty options in some of these areas. I concede that at least Apple does offer 128 GB and 64 GB for people in these areas. Though to be honest some areas are so bad there's no point to owning a smart phone at all. Or a cell phone for that matter.

But I hear your point and it's well made for your use case. I no longer think the 16GB option is as foolish as I did before. Apparently there are customers who still want the 16GB option. Perhaps we have not yet reached critical mass to make a change from that and Apple knows this.

I've spent some time this morning reading the rebellion against recent decisions made by Samsung. So now I know the grass isn't greener on the Android side. I realize Samsung is not the only Android manufacturer. But they were the only rival that I found tempting at this point, after friends with the HTC flagships warned me off and switched to IPhone as soon as the 6's came out.

 

[AJsAWiz]

My choice wasn't there so here is my vote.

Yes, I'm buying a 6s Plus with 128 gb as I originally planned. It doesn't matter to me that they will be releasing a 16 gb and the 32 gb was never on my radar. I believe it will be a reasonable option for those who prefer 16 gb.

From my perspective it doesn't look like anyone was slapped in the face. Everyone was given a choice. If your choice isn't among them then you move on and life goes on.

 

[AJsAWiz]

Wow.

Given my own tirades against Apple over certain things I can certainly understand your anger. That said, just two things on this.

One, not everyone needs a whole bunch of storage. Some people just want an iPhone for what it can do and they store everything else off the phone. With iCloud that's even more possible.

Second, it's not as if Apple has removed the 128GB capacity as an option. In fact, you couldn't get 128GB until the iPhone 6/6+.

For me, I always buy the highest capacity available in the model I am purchasing at the time. So, I have a 128GB 6+. What Apple offers on the lower end and in the middle then is pretty much irrelevant to me. But just to me, not that it's irrelevant period.

I'm pretty sure you'll be able to get a 6s or 6s+ in 128GB.

Well said.

 

[Broadus]

Good point, but that isnt very likely in 2015. Ive used mobile broadband and cellular data exclusively since 2011. Both in Sweden and Norway. Everything from small villages to capitals. Very seldom an issue. Not looking back.

500MB may cover you in cities with cafes and offices, but it doesnt get you very far in rural locations. Personally I dont see the point with wifi or lan, except for desktop computing. I also have an unlimited plan, so that may be a big part of my preference.

I'm in a rural area but am in my office or home most of the time. I simply don't need much data and, consequently, don't want to pay for what I don't use. I've been in places that don't even have decent cellular service, as in West Virginia.

The issue of 16GB or 32GB is really moot to me because both are insufficient for my needs. I can understand how others get along happily with 16GB.

 

[AppleRobert]

I agree that while some can get by with 16gb those are in the minority and do so to save coin and then have to micro manage the heck out of storage.

 

[buster84]

Looks like people have lost the typical hope that they once had with apple and are today's reelases just reinforced the idea that we should not support their continued (keep tech outdated and sell it at a premium) philosophy.

Since the announcement confirmed their ongoing motives I went ahead and ordered two 128gb Samsung s6 from to mobile for $580. I'll only support Apple when they bring back steve jobs customer philosophy.

Even there stock fell today for the first time ever after an iPhone announcement making investors worried.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/markets/2015/09/09/apple-stock-ipad-iphone-aapl/71945980/

 

[Noble Actual]

Its pretty logical. People buy the cheapest model.

If Apple offered the 32GB model as the cheapest, it would be the obvious best seller.

Don't get why people are even debating this.

 

[buster84]

Its pretty logical. People buy the cheapest model.

If Apple offered the 32GB model as the cheapest, it would be the obvious best seller.

Don't get why people are even debating this.

The problem is how they implemented it. If they made a 16gb at $549 with a 32gb at $649 it would have been totally acceptable. In 2015 the standard smart phone came with 32gb minimum (that doesn't have an sd card slot). Apple deliberately choose to not upgrade upgrade to 32gb in order to force an increased $100 price increase on anyone who desires their product.

The fact that stocks fell today proves that apple is heading in the wrong direction.

 

[5105973]

Looks like people have lost the typical hope that they once had with apple and are today's reelases just reinforced the idea that we should not support their continued (keep tech outdated and sell it at a premium) philosophy.

Since the announcement confirmed their ongoing motives I went ahead and ordered two 128gb Samsung s6 from to mobile for $580. I'll only support Apple when they bring back steve jobs customer philosophy.

Even there stock fell today for the first time ever after an iPhone announcement making investors worried.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/markets/2015/09/09/apple-stock-ipad-iphone-aapl/71945980/

Samsung plays the same games though with their customers. I read the rants and complaints from Samsung loyalists in various site feedback venues and reviews on how they do similar games with specs on different models. But I agree with the message you're trying to send Apple. I'd follow it up with some form of communication to Tim Cook to explain what you did and why. Otherwise your defection will never be noticed by them.

 

[buster84]

Samsung plays the same games though with their customers. I read the rants and complaints from Samsung loyalists in various site feedback venues and reviews on how they do similar games with specs on different models. But I agree with the message you're trying to send Apple. I'd follow it up with some form of communication to Tim Cook to explain what you did and why. Otherwise your defection will never be noticed by them.

I tweeted him already, but it doesn't really matter since the apple stock fell 2% today. Normally Apple stock increases a week before the iPhone announcement and increases again when its announced, the fact that it fell and continues to fall shows that apples new direction is going to hurt them in the long run.

The only reason I choose the samsungs is because of the storage/price ratio on top of the fact that I choose to no longer support apple for their deliberately attempt to stay behind the time and increase the standard. If you support this type of behavior you will be disappointed in the long run. Now if the 16gb was $549, $64gb was $649 and the 128gb was $749 I would have bought two. If Apple offered the 64GB at $649 I would have bought two; however, they choose to keep the outdated 16gb option at $649 which was an obvious deliberate attempt at forcing us to pay more in order to enjoy the phones full features.

 

[617aircav]

The problem is how they implemented it. If they made a 16gb at $549 with a 32gb at $649 it would have been totally acceptable. In 2015 the standard smart phone came with 32gb minimum (that doesn't have an sd card slot). Apple deliberately choose to not upgrade upgrade to 32gb in order to force an increased $100 price increase on anyone who desires their product.

The fact that stocks fell today proves that apple is heading in the wrong direction.

The stock has been falling and has nothing to do with 16gb. Nobody is forced to buy 16gb so nobody should be complaining.

 

[chukronos]

I don't know anyone where 16GB phone is enough space. And, I am around several different senior citizens a day. My wife got the 64GB 6. I'll be getting the 64GB 6S.

 

[617aircav]

I don't know anyone where 16GB phone is enough space. And, I am around several different senior citizens a day. My wife got the 64GB 6. I'll be getting the 64GB 6S.

My sister has a 16gb and is fine with it. She did not want to fork out another $100 for storage she did not need.