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The 2009 (Gainestown) Mac Pro: Everything We Know

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I guess my whole point is that will 2.5k-3.5k more than the current mac pro be worth it for just an incremental increase in performance.

Seems like the Nehalem is inferior hardware (actual cores) that should be cheaper yet the hyperthreading implemention keeps them roughly the same or just a bit faster in performance than the current machines.
 
jjahshik32 said:
I guess my whole point is that will 2.5k-3.5k more than the current mac pro be worth it for just an incremental increase in performance.

Seems like the Nehalem is inferior hardware (actual cores) that should be cheaper yet the hyperthreading implemention keeps them roughly the same or just a bit faster in performance than the current machines.
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And how do you figure that :rolleyes:
 
jjahshik32 said:
I guess my whole point is that will 2.5k-3.5k more than the current mac pro be worth it for just an incremental increase in performance.

Seems like the Nehalem is inferior hardware (actual cores) that should be cheaper yet the hyperthreading implemention keeps them roughly the same or just a bit faster in performance than the current machines.
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How so? It's obviously superior hardware, it's just that the price premium over the current and extremely capable hardware won't be worth it for everyone.
 
TennisandMusic said:
How so? It's obviously superior hardware, it's just that the price premium over the current and extremely capable hardware won't be worth it for everyone.
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If I have to pay $3500 for the base Nehalem mac pro and on top pay a premium more for RAM, I might as well just buy the current Mac Pros. Thats all I'm saying.

I really hope the mac pros will be priced the same.
 
jjahshik32 said:
Maybe at $2999 doesnt sound too bad I guess. Damn but for $3000 right now I can get a 2.8ghz 8 core Mac Pro and load it up with 16GB of RAM.
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If your needs can push the current model, especially for memory access, the Xeon 5500 series Mac Pro will be worth it though. Plenty of evidence to support this. :)
 
nanofrog said:
If your needs can push the current model, especially for memory access, the Xeon 5500 series Mac Pro will be worth it though. Plenty of evidence to support this. :)
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I'll just wait it all out until gainstown is actually released. Even then the current Mac Pro will be even cheaper anyways. :p
 
jjahshik32 said:
I'll just wait it all out until gainstown is actually released. Even then the current Mac Pro will be even cheaper anyways. :p
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Hopefully. :)

I'm not aware of any really good sales, but I would think so, if there's any stock left. If not, there's still the refurb option. If you can find one quick enough. ;)
 

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jjahshik32 said:
AHHHHHHHHH!!! This is madness!!!
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Madness?

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Back to your regularly scheduled thread......




And PeterQC, it's 4 cores/CPU, x2 CPUs. = 8 cores. EDIT: Hey, wait! It DOESN'T say two procs! Doesn't that answer our question of a single-processor 55** setup?
 
J the Ninja said:
Madness?

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Back to your regularly scheduled thread......




And PeterQC, it's 4 cores/CPU, x2 CPUs. = 8 cores. EDIT: Hey, wait! It DOESN'T say two procs! Doesn't that answer our question of a single-processor 55** setup?
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Lol, that sparta will blurt out this is madness once *this is spartaaaa* answer being wrong. hehe
 
jjahshik32 said:
Seems like the Nehalem is inferior hardware (actual cores) that should be cheaper yet the hyperthreading implemention keeps them roughly the same or just a bit faster in performance than the current machines.
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Cores are better, although the advantage is diminished considerably with single-threaded tasks. Prices are higher, and that may be the issue.
 
So any ideas how much each stick of RAM will cost for this when it comes out? My current MacPro has 32 GB RAM and I'll probably be buying the new one when it comes out and maxing it with RAM as well (whole-genome stats takes a crap load of RAM)...
 
firstyearprof said:
So any ideas how much each stick of RAM will cost for this when it comes out? My current MacPro has 32 GB RAM and I'll probably be buying the new one when it comes out and maxing it with RAM as well (whole-genome stats takes a crap load of RAM)...
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Oh, no you won't. Unless you have around $30,000.

"Maxing" will be the physical limitation of 96GB of RAM available at the time of release.
 
So just to understand...

There should be 12 memory slots total? And current price for an 8GB module is $2500?

$30000 is obviously too much to spend, but $10K isn't out of the picture...
 
firstyearprof said:
So just to understand...

There should be 12 memory slots total? And current price for an 8GB module is $2500?

$30000 is obviously too much to spend, but $10K isn't out of the picture...
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Crucial currently have 12GB (4x3GB) for $1,150 ($96/GB) but they also for some reason have 4GB DIMMs on their own for $320 ($80/GB), 2GB and 1GB DIMMs are also about $90/GB. All of that is registered ECC which you will want with large amounts of memory.

8GB DIMMs may be a bit different as I touched on in a previous post in this thread on memory. So I wouldn't rule out $100/GB, but I wouldn't count on it being available at that price either.
 
Umbongo said:
Crucial currently have 12GB (4x3GB) for $1,150 ($96/GB) but they also for some reason have 4GB DIMMs on their own for $320 ($80/GB), 2GB and 1GB DIMMs are also about $90/GB. All of that is registered ECC which you will want with large amounts of memory.

8GB DIMMs may be a bit different as I touched on in a previous post in this thread on memory. So I wouldn't rule out $100/GB, but I wouldn't count on it being available at that price either.
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So, in other words RAM will be freakin expensive...
 
Tallest Skil said:
Now...

The price of the Gainestown Mac Pro won't matter with the benefits of Snow Leopard.

Seriously, it will be WORTH the money. I'm not saying that Snow Leopard will allow you to BECOME the Folding@Home server and cure cancer on your own, but the speed increases brought by Snow Leopard and Gainestown will be worth the higher price.
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I am pretty sure that the largest gain will come from the dedicated graphic card (besides the obvious step-up from 8 to 16 logical processors) under Snow Leopard with regards to OpenCL.
 
5800........

Well done you have destroyed my plan to start saving for a mac pro with a 5600 that 5800 card looks incredible the mind boggles how that will play with snow leopard, i can see windows 7 throwing in the towel on benchmarking
 
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