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The 2009 (Gainestown) Mac Pro: Everything We Know
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I assume he meant non-Pro apps. If what I've read is true, Snow Leopard will help regular programs use those additional cores.
Well, rarely one application but many people sure do like to multitask.
Ever try multitasking on a single core computer? Yeah, not so hot.
It enables you to do far more things at the same time.
Wow that does look remarkably like my design i posted a while back.
I bet that xps is mostly plastic and a bit of pressed tin
Wow that does look remarkably like my design i posted a while back.
I bet that xps is mostly plastic and a bit of pressed tin
They probably thought, "Oh, NO! Look at what Apple is making next! We'd better copy it!" thinking that this thread is a source of direct-from-Apple information.
Because I saw that earlier today and thought, "That thing looks EXACTLY like that one Mac Pro mockup in my thread."
I was looking under the Apple Hardware profiler and found some interesting things.
Under
GFX0@0 <class IOPCIDevice, registered, matched, active, busy$
I found
"rm_multiboard_capable" = <01000000>
SLI? Only hoping
TeslaGLContext <class TeslaGLContext, !registered, !matc$
Tesla
Under
GFX0@0 <class IOPCIDevice, registered, matched, active, busy$
I found
"rm_multiboard_capable" = <01000000>
SLI? Only hoping
TeslaGLContext <class TeslaGLContext, !registered, !matc$
Tesla
I was looking under the Apple Hardware profiler and found some interesting things.
Under
GFX0@0 <class IOPCIDevice, registered, matched, active, busy$
I found
"rm_multiboard_capable" = <01000000>
SLI? Only hoping
TeslaGLContext <class TeslaGLContext, !registered, !matc$
Tesla
Looks like the new Mac Pro will be very interesting
Would Tesla be a reason to announce the Mac Pro at WWDC and/or ship it with Snow Leopard?when they get here, how much of a performance difference should i expect between the top model and the next best processor? i keep reading that clock speed won't matter as much as architecture in the next generation of models, but i don't know if that means we should expect a lot more bang-per-Hz
for a wee bit o' background, i'm thinking that i'd like the capability to work in uncompressed HD, which means i'll need at least one SAS drive, which will mean i'll need the raid card. the combined cost of these items means two things for me... not much additional RAM at the time of the purchase (probably only 6 or less), and opting for the second best processor option.
then again... i suppose that i could just stick a thousand bucks worth of high speed drive stuff on my credit card if the need ever actually arises to work in 4:4:4 uncompressed 10-bit HD at home. by then i'll either be making decent money or the drives will be cheaper.
... no matter what i'll be able to work in uncompressed SD and ProRes HD, but without fast drives uncompressed 10-bit is not a possibility, let alone 2k or 4k three or four years down the road (for which i'd need way more RAM anyway, not to mention that extra processor power i'm potentially turning down now)
for a wee bit o' background, i'm thinking that i'd like the capability to work in uncompressed HD, which means i'll need at least one SAS drive, which will mean i'll need the raid card. the combined cost of these items means two things for me... not much additional RAM at the time of the purchase (probably only 6 or less), and opting for the second best processor option.
then again... i suppose that i could just stick a thousand bucks worth of high speed drive stuff on my credit card if the need ever actually arises to work in 4:4:4 uncompressed 10-bit HD at home. by then i'll either be making decent money or the drives will be cheaper.
... no matter what i'll be able to work in uncompressed SD and ProRes HD, but without fast drives uncompressed 10-bit is not a possibility, let alone 2k or 4k three or four years down the road (for which i'd need way more RAM anyway, not to mention that extra processor power i'm potentially turning down now)
If I'm understanding you correctly, you might want to consider the base model then. Use the savings towards upgrades, such as memory, RAID card,... I'm thinking you'd be better served by the increased memory and data throughput (HDD's). At $200USD more (est. on $2999 USD for base), I'd think more bang for the buck than the current model, certainly. 3D rendering, and a lot of it, might be a justification for increasing the clock speed on the CPU's.
BTW, you'd be better off going 3rd party on the RAID card. Check out Areca's SAS cards, particularly the ARC-1680 series.
Hope this helps.
This hurts. SO. MUCH. Because I can't get one anymore.
No video out means that this would be used in conjunction with Snow Leopard ONLY, as you would need another card to display the image rendered by...
Wait for it...
Eight Gainestown Xeon cores and the 240 cores of the Tesla GPU.
If I'm understanding you correctly, you might want to consider the base model then. Use the savings towards upgrades, such as memory, RAID card,... I'm thinking you'd be better served by the increased memory and data throughput (HDD's). At $200USD more (est. on $2999 USD for base), I'd think more bang for the buck than the current model, certainly. 3D rendering, and a lot of it, might be a justification for increasing the clock speed on the CPU's.
BTW, you'd be better off going 3rd party on the RAID card. Check out Areca's SAS cards, particularly the ARC-1680 series.
Hope this helps.
thanks, that does help, but my thinking is that if i get the highest-end model now, then I can let the computer grow with my needs... a few hundred bucks invested here and there on RAM or an SAS card if i actually need it, knowing at the very least that i've got the most capable cpu i can get.
plus, since i see now that I should go third party with the SAS card and drives, i think i'll just do that when the need arises.
i guess what my issue boils down to is, is the $700 difference (based on current pricing) between the two options a better investment than the same amount of money spent on RAM at the time of purchase? (espeically considering considering that FCP hasn't been rewritten yet and CS4 is still 32-bit on OS X, and by the time there are new versions of those RAM might be half the price)
This hurts. SO. MUCH. Because I can't get one anymore.
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How badly do you want one? Would you be willing to pay the full ticket price and shipping?
Willing, yes.
Able anymore, no.
So, just how much better is this "Tesla" GPU than the current 8800GT?
*blinks*
The 8800 GT is trash next to something in the Tesla category. It might not give you better performance in games (though with 4GB of onboard RAM, I'm not sure of what, if anything, it can't do), but it will get its job done better than any 8800 GT would operate in its position.
Do you see all Nvidia cards (on all Macs) and Apple is done with ATI or do you still see some ATI cards being offered as an option?
ATI isn't dead yet. 4600 kext is in the first post, and there does now seem to be some substantiation to the 4870 (not 4870X2) making it into Snow Leopard.
And I just happen to have one....
It would be a bad idea for them to drop ATI, even for one full "set" of updates.
Bad relations at one point make it difficult to reconcile afterwards, and we all know that ATI makes FAR better drivers (because they actually write their own drivers) than Apple does for nVidia.
You can have a Tesla, but if the drivers suck enough, you could be better off with a HD 2600 XT for performance.
Apple should really offer one card in each position from each company.
Base: 4670 vs. _______ (something nVidia comparable)
Mid: 4870 vs. GTX 260
Pro: FirePro vs. Quadro/Tesla
And let us choose. This isn't a "choose" in the sense of "oh, offer us EVERY card", but choose in that we get to choose our company at each level, and Apple still gets to have their hardware restrictions.
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