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The 2011-2012 Football Thread

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Lord Blackadder said:
I don't blame you one bit. It's pretty bad from a perspective of fairness. Rangers are showing no remorse for having cheated the taxman, the league, supporters and other clubs. They are shapeshifting into a newco and taking no responsibility for the past. I can understand why a new owner would want to do this, but they are trying to take ownership of all of Rangers' physical and cultural assets while shirking as much responsiblity as they can get away with. That's not fair to supporters, the rest of Scottish football or to anybody who pays their taxes.
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Correct. I could stand by a club who would be willing to repay the debt over x number of years and the hardship and mid-table results that would bring, but not a newco wiping the slate clean and saying let's start again and not take any responsibility for the last 10 years where it can now be claimed the club had an unfair avantage over the others. And besides I'm a UK tax payer, how is that fair for me, I can't just forget about my taxes then tell HMRC I want to wipe the slate clean. While keeping my house and all my assests.

Lord Blackadder said:
The new owners' statement was rich
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It was rather peculiar in that he was surprised by the result when in fact the HMRC have a statement on their website that explains exactly what they think about IVAs. Another case of incompetence by the administrators.

The good news about this is HMRC's stance has left the door open for prosecution against [current owner] Whyte, [previous owner] Murray and the administrators. The only winners will be the lawyers.
 
jsolares said:
I thought Russia got robbed, when you get a kick in the face you expect a foul to be called on the player kicking, and alas that one was understandable since the polish player seemed almost twice as tall as the russian one, the other had me shaking my head, the polish defender pushed down the forward and the russian was called for a foul.
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There were a couple incidents, but overall I did not think it was a particularly dirty game. I'd have to watch the replays again on those incidents you mention.

Fizzoid said:
So, it looks like Torres might get a start tomorrow tonight
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18425161
;)
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Wasn't George Burley roasted a few years ago for playing Scotland in a 4-6-0? OF course, given the quality of the players Spain have, I think the assertion that they don't need strikers to win is a fair one until proven otherwise. Some might argue that Chelsea did prove otherwise in the CL, but if Spain go on to win everything here it's hard to argue against them.

Fuzzy14 said:
Correct. I could stand by a club who would be willing to repay the debt over x number of years and the hardship and mid-table results that would bring, but not a newco wiping the slate clean and saying let's start again and not take any responsibility for the last 10 years where it can now be claimed the club had an unfair avantage over the others. And besides I'm a UK tax payer, how is that fair for me, I can't just forget about my taxes then tell HMRC I want to wipe the slate clean. While keeping my house and all my assests.
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Yep. Rangers are screwing the league and all the other clubs, cheating their debtors, and giving a middle finger (or flicking a V sign, as you please) to UK taxpayers everywhere. And their basis for doing this? "We are Rangers, we are too big to fail". :rolleyes:

I hope HMRC go after Whyte, Murray and the others and leave them pretty well shorn. And, though I seriously doubt it would ever happen, I'd like to see some smaller clubs block Rangers' re-entry to the SPL.

Fuzzy14 said:
The only winners will be the lawyers.
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You can say that again. The lawyers always win.
 
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Guatemala 1-1 USA

jsolares said:
So Guatemala tied the US 1-1, the US team seems lacking, not entirely sure what though, didn't expect us to tie.
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Guatemala have never beaten us, and I didn't expect them to beat us yesterday, but I'm not at all surprised with the draw. Guatemala always provides an extremely hostile environment and their team, as I expected, were very physical and aggessive if limited in their technical play. There were a lot of fouls. They were hoping to score from a free kick and they eventually did. Pappa's strike was excellent. Dempsey came through for us again. We probably should have scored more than 1 goal. I'll take the point and I'm pleased to get out of there without any injuries or suspensions. We play Jamaica now (in Columbus Crew Stadium :) ) and I have every confidence we will win the group.

jsolares said:
And Portugal despite CR7 not playing well won 3-2 against the Danish
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Andriy Schevchenko and Nicklas Bendtner each have two goals and have a shot at being the tournament's top scorer. One can only hope :D

oscillatewildly said:
Hoping for a Netherlands win to take all four teams to the last games.
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It could get really interesting, we might see the entire group decided on goal difference.
 
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Chelsea officially appoint RDM

Meanwhile Monsieur Wenger looks set to sign yet another french player. Hopefully it pans out.

EDIT: Oh dear RVP.

EDIT2: Looks set to be a long night for the Dutch, guess it just wasn't gonna be their year this year.
 
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looks like Mario Gomez was motivated by his critics because after all scoring the winning goal against Portugal just isn't good enough in germany if you don't run enough on the pitch ;)

too bad i didn't select him for my squad
 
Don't panic said:
that would be me, and i debated long whether to pick him or Gomez. :(
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so did i .. and ronaldo rewarded us with neither goal or assist but instead a yellow card

Don't panic said:
Germany looking clear favorites to take the tournament at this point
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IMHO Spain looked fluid as usual and Italy more aggressive but Germany was tactically superb, so i think those 3 are now the favorites after the games so far
together with Russia who might have a shot for a semi final

edit: this game is slowly turning into a truce: "we surrender if you don't humiliate us"
 
Finally! great strike from RVP on his weaker foot.

EDIT...but not enough to count in the end.
 
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TEAM ->"Together Everyone Achieves More"

I think its brilliant. Robben should make it into a poster and hang it on his wall.
 
daneoni said:
TEAM ->"Together Everyone Achieves More"

I think its brilliant. Robben should make it into a poster and hang it on his wall.
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'There's no I in team' – no, but there's an Arjen Robben. :p

Meanwhile, strong rumours Redknapp has left/is leaving Spurs. There were some rumblings yesterday but tonight some of the sports news folk are running the story, and some of the bookies have suspended betting on David Moyes taking over at White Hart Lane.
 
The Dutch are in terrible danger. Never would have guessed that. But they can still go through if they defeat the Portuguese heavily.

Jaffa Cake said:
Meanwhile, strong rumours Redknapp has left/is leaving Spurs. There were some rumblings yesterday but tonight some of the sports news folk are running the story, and some of the bookies have suspended betting on David Moyes taking over at White Hart Lane.
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Maybe he and Moyes will swap teams...then again, Harry would never go somewhere with Everton's kind of budgetary restrictions.
 
takao said:
looks like Mario Gomez was motivated by his critics because after all scoring the winning goal against Portugal just isn't good enough in germany if you don't run enough on the pitch ;)

too bad i didn't select him for my squad
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Sneijder could've done with him the last 2 games.

so did i .. and ronaldo rewarded us with neither goal or assist but instead a yellow card
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Touch of class leaving the card so late, the icing.

Jaffa Cake - not the best news for Everton if Moyes is off.

Lord Blackadder - Redknapp - it's also a hell of a commute from the south coast.

Cheers,
OW
 
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Incidentally, if any of you have not yet checked out the highlights of the Argentina 4-3 Brazil "friendly" from Saturday, do so...it's probably the best game you'll see this month, Euros included. ;) Spoiler: Messi scores a hat trick.

oscillatewildly said:
Jaffa Cake - not the best news for Everton if Moyes is off.
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Everton don't have a lot of money, but they do have a good squad and Moyes is an excellent manager. it would definitely be a blow to lose Moyes.
 
well it certainly doesn't hurt to take shots outside of the box(not the podolski way), instead of wanting to carry the ball into the net. too bad Hummels shot or whatever it was, didn't go in. Germany needs to dominate and stay focused over a longer period of time , then they will be the contenders for the title that everyone says they already are.
 
Its official. 'Arry has exit the Lane.

Me thinks Spurs will definitely regret that one in the short term. I also expect Bale and Modric to start looking over the fence as well.
 
jsolares said:
Only if Germany also beats Denmark, which isn't 100% certain, heck germany could still be left out if Denmark beats them and Portugal also beats the Dutch. nice group this one :).
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I like the uncertainty. This kind of group is great to watch - unless you support one of the teams involved! I'm still tipping the Germans to win their final game.

Jaffa Cake said:
I have Denmark in the office sweepstake. As such, we can be reasonably certain that they won't be progressing from the group. ;)
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Bendtner hat trick. You heard it here first. :D
 
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