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Two Dutch players save Two English teams from defeat.:D

Both Dirk Kuijt, and Robin van Persie proved their worth again. I just hope they prove to be as good in June this year.

Before anyone remarks that is how Kuijt's name is written.
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirk_Kuijt


It looks like the Andy Carroll will be staying at Liverpool.

At least there's one way in which he can be compared to Johan Cruyff/Cruijff... ;)

and Ruud Van Nistelrooij
 
I wonder why the English bother to transliterate it as "Kuyt" rather than leaving it as "Kuijt". That doesn't make it easier to pronounce.

Maybe that if an ij are written very close together it can look like a y, once written like this people just copy it.

I also ask why they call us Holland and not the Netherlands?
 
I also ask why they call us Holland and not the Netherlands?

Probably for the same reason that Islamic people during the crusades referred to all western Europeans as "Franks". Knowlege of geography was much more approximate in the past compared with today...since Holland is on the west coast of what is today the Netherlands, the English probably dealt with people from Holland most often, and considered everyone who spoke Dutch to be from 'Holland'.

Holland, The Netherlands, the Dutch...no etymological relationship between the three. I always found that interesting.
 
Probably for the same reason that Islamic people during the crusades referred to all western Europeans as "Franks". Knowlege of geography was much more approximate in the past compared with today...since Holland is on the west coast of what is today the Netherlands, the English probably dealt with people from Holland most often, and considered everyone who spoke Dutch to be from 'Holland'.
That's as I understand it, way back when I suppose most of our contact with the Netherlands would have been through the provinces of North and South Holland. The name then stuck, and 'Holland' and 'The Netherlands' are now used interchangeably.

Personally, as I've family in the Netherlands I use 'The Netherlands' rather than 'Holland' to describe the whole country.
 
Getting back to football has anybody been watching the Africa Cup?

There are some fantastic games, the style of players is completely different to European players. All the matches I have watched have been end to end open football.
 
I've only watched highlights a couple times a week, but it is very end-to-end stuff. Some very wet pitches too. Just the name "Equitorial Guinea" makes me think of rain.

Jaffa Cake said:
Personally, as I've family in the Netherlands I use 'The Netherlands' rather than 'Holland' to describe the whole country.

Ah, Cousin Jaafa Cuijk! :D
 
Holland, The Netherlands, the Dutch...no etymological relationship between the three. I always found that interesting.

not that somebody from the UK has it any better: forever until the end of the time Great Britain will be synonymous with "England" in normal day to day speak, even if people know better and the scots get blue faces out of anger

or the USA <-> America
(or in the past: soviet union <-> russia)

historically i think much many of such cases come from a smaller entity being hugely influential and the name simply sticking: after all historically "Austria" only is the name of smaller region of today's Austria
 
historically i think much many of such cases come from a smaller entity being hugely influential and the name simply sticking: after all historically "Austria" only is the name of smaller region of today's Austria

I was recently doing research on a Croatian who emigrated to America around 1905 to mine for gold; since in those days Croatia was part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, he referred to himself as "Austrian". Later, after WWI ended, he began to refer to himself as "French" to avoid being associated with the United States's opponents in the late war. Obviously his companions didn't look into the matter very deeply! He died in the 1970s (by then an American citizen), but throughout his life he never identified himself as a "Croatian".

The term "nationality" can be a troublesome one in many matters, and international football is no different. Just look at how many players of mixed-ancestry there are on national teams these days. Here in the US it's not controversial, but in some places it is.
 
Another former international is making his way to MLS. Yep, this time it's none other than Kris Boyd, who will be playing for former Scotland/Chelsea striker John Spencer in Portland.

Link
 
Portland is a very enthusiastically-supported club with a great atmosphere and the best mascot in MLS - or possibly the world. He has a chainsaw, after all. A real one.
 
Doesn't help that we gave away a penalty in the 92nd minute to hand Blackpool a lifeline though :(

Although, by the sounds of things, they did have the most chances...

Everton away in the next round if we get through. I was hoping for Crawley away so I could go watch it.

we kicked their ass tho. we'll win at home. ;)
 
In an attempt to propel Fizzy and pachyderm to FA Cup glory, Wednesday have signed John Bostock on loan from Spurs until the end of the season.

As the link mentions, we had him on loan last season and – a couple of very good goals aside – he was largely ineffectual for us. It'll be interesting to see how he gets on with League One football.

Hmm, I wonder if we have to pay tax on him? ;)
 
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But it just goes to show how, in a big derby, both teams are so amped up that cool, technical play often falls by the wayside...

Lost count of the number of times the ball was given away.

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Netherlands - the Nether part is probably too much for the English brain; bound to be a 1970s sitcom referring to it as the Nether Regions.

Ah, the 1970s, equality and all that. Today, women's football is:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs.../01/30/gIQAGBHKdQ_blog.html?tid=pm_sports_pop

I'll fetch my gloves, looks like I'll get a game against Stoke City.

Cheers,
OW
 
We here in the US finally get to see the craziness that is deadline transfer day as Fox Soccer Channel is carrying the Sky Sports feed all day. Lots of coverage from reporters outside of training grounds, and of cars in carparks. There's still more than 8 hours to go. I sure hope there is more news for their sakes.
 
We here in the US finally get to see the craziness that is deadline transfer day as Fox Soccer Channel is carrying the Sky Sports feed all day. Lots of coverage from reporters outside of training grounds, and of cars in carparks. There's still more than 8 hours to go. I sure hope there is more news for their sakes.

Do you just have a direct link of Sky Sports News then? Must be quite surreal, suddenly a day of british accents and blokes stood in carparks with **** all going on! Is all quite entertaining though...

This story amused me, in the Fiver earlier:

SIX HOURS AND COUNTING

Film buffs often rate 1939 as the greatest year in the history of Hollywood. And with good reason - The Wizard of Oz, Gone with the Wind, Mr Smith Goes to Washington and, er, Tarzan Finds A Son! are all mortuary-stone-cold classics. In 1940, what with the second world war and everything, you might have expected the biggest comedown since Ron Jeremy gave up bongo. But no. Up popped, among others, The Great Dictator, The Grapes of Wrath and the Philadephia Story. Which brings us in a very roundabout way to January transfer window deadline day 2012, sorry - [Fiver channels Sky Sports New s] - JANUARY TRANSFER WINDOW DEADLINE DAY 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now, JTWDD2011 had it all. Jim White almost having a coronary when Fernando Torres moved to Chelsea for £50m (or, if you prefer, approximately 17 bankers' bonuses). Jim White almost having a coronary when Andy Carroll became the eighth most expensive player in history, etc and so on. A whopping £225m was spent by Premier League clubs during January 2011, the largest ever total since the window was introduced in 2003. In truth, football didn't just stick two fingers at the recession, the three million unemployed in the UK, and all reasonable measures of prudence, it kamikazilly sped on to its lawns and did a defiant 360-degree smokin' wheelie.

But what of January transfer window deadline day 2012, you ask? Well, Bobby Zamora seems off to QPR for a fee of £5m and £90,000-a-week wages, where he will be joined by Djinkin' Djibril '23 goals in 84 Premier League games and one in 18 Serie A matches' Cisse - a striker, as Mark Hughes accurately put it, whose "record speaks for itself". Elsewhere, often-crocked Roma midfielder David Pizarro looks set to join Owen Hargreaves on the bench/treatment table at Manchester City, but the biggest shock of all is that Former Footballer Wayne Bridge might soon be Footballer Wayne Bridge after joining Sunderland on loan.

As things stand it's quiet. Too damn quiet. But there are still just over six hours left before the window jerks shut. Irons are still in fires, including Spurs' interest in jinky Werder Bremen midfielder Marko Marin and possible late plans to whisk Carlos Tevez away from Eastlands. And White, a man who could make Open University advance mathematics sound exciting, is due on our screens at 10.15pm to soundtrack it all. Let the action commence - or, failing that, the news that Bury have signed a Conference striker on loan.

• Barry Glendenning and John Ashdown will be here to tell you about transfers that probably won't happen throughout the evening in our deadline day live blog. And you can discuss all today's deals in the Football League here.
 
Lost count of the number of times the ball was given away.

Every Liverpool - Man Utd derby I've ever watched has been heavy on committment but short on skill. United's posession advantage was illusory; most of that "possession" consisted of Scholes and Giggs pinging it around uncontested near the center circle before putting it out to the wings, only for it to be intercepted by a Liverpool player (and then given back to United after a couple passes). You wait for a favorable result but the match itself is only interesting in flashes.

Ah, the 1970s, equality and all that. Today, women's football is:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs.../01/30/gIQAGBHKdQ_blog.html?tid=pm_sports_pop

It's a huge shame. I think the only way a womens' league will work is if MLS grows big enough to support ladies teams, as is done in Europe.

We here in the US finally get to see the craziness that is deadline transfer day as Fox Soccer Channel is carrying the Sky Sports feed all day. Lots of coverage from reporters outside of training grounds, and of cars in carparks. There's still more than 8 hours to go. I sure hope there is more news for their sakes.

Oh lord, those Sky braodcasts are agonizing. They broadcast the morning edition of Sky Sports News every evening on Fox Soccer Channel, with their horse racing news and UK surf forecast. :D

Do you just have a direct link of Sky Sports News then? Must be quite surreal, suddenly a day of british accents and blokes stood in carparks with **** all going on! Is all quite entertaining though...

They really do make a big deal about nothing, it reminds me of a normal day on Fox News or MSNBC.

That Fiver article was funny. Barry Glendenning is great, I find it strange that so many people seem complain about him - probably because he is constantly making fun of football supporters.

EDIT: Man City choked badly today. I'm biased as a Liverpool fan, but I think this season's championship is a real geriatric, wheezy struggle to the finish for the Best League in the World™. If Man United win it, it's a testament to Ferguson's ability to accomplism miracles with what should be a 3rd or 4th-placed team. If City win it, it will still be an embarrassing underperformance given the money spent (unbless they go on to dominate the run-in) - though marginally better for the neutral fan because City haven't won the league in the Premier League era, and it would be nice to see a new name up there.

The only exciting outcome for the neutral fan will be if Spurs win it, since they truly are underdogs compared to United, City and Chelsea (though they are still big spenders).

In other news, Andy Carroll scored a flipping goal. Baby steps...
 
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It was nice watching Davie Moyes and Co. putting one over the Billionaires Club this evening.

Fair play to Everton, who would have given them a snowball's chance in hell of winning this match?

I'm not sure Donovan will be credited with the assist, but he helped create the goal again. His performances have been a testament both to his quality and Everton's threadbare nature.
 
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