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The 2012-2013 Football Thread

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Both Man Utd. and Liverpool are suffering some sponsor woes...MUST is calling for a boycott of GM products, while Liverpool shirt sponsor Standard Chartered is in hot water for allegedly laundering money for Iranian banks. Standard Chartered has already lost almost a quarter of it's value overnight upon the publication of the story.

IF the allegations are true, it would likely mean that Liverpool's lucrative sponsorship deal with them goes up in smoke, certianly in the long term if not immediately. Liverpool will have little choice but to kill the deal; FSG will have their hands full sorting this one out. But this is the risk you take when courting lucrative sponsorship deals from wealthy multinationals. :(

As for the Man U situation, the Glazers absolutely robbed GM with their shirt sponsor deal. It's hilarious, I can't believe the amount of money they are getting out of it - and neither can GM apparently, they seem stunned. The Glazers are fleecing the fans and fleecing their sponsors. And I presume that as long as they keep Alex Ferguson on board and keep winning stuff they will continue to get away with it.

The sad thing is, I expect both Man U and Liverpool fans to keep blowing good money on shirts and probably filling the stadia every week too. Boycotts never work.
 
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Even better, the GM sponsorship deal was so one-sided, GM's board fired their Chief Marketing Officer who signed off on the whole thing. Can't say I'll run out and buy a shirt with a big Chevrolet logo on it, regardless.

As for Standard Chartered: will they really have to pull their Liverpool deal? Even after the crap hit the fan with AIG, their logo ignominiously remained on the front of United's shirts for a couple of years thereafter.
 
Silencio said:
Even better, the GM sponsorship deal was so one-sided, GM's board fired their Chief Marketing Officer who signed off on the whole thing. Can't say I'll run out and buy a shirt with a big Chevrolet logo on it, regardless.
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It was straight robbery. Not that I feel sorry for GM...but the idiot who was responsible for the deal on GM's side is either totally incompetent or corrupt.

Silencio said:
As for Standard Chartered: will they really have to pull their Liverpool deal? Even after the crap hit the fan with AIG, their logo ignominiously remained on the front of United's shirts for a couple of years thereafter.
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I was speaking more in terms of Liverpool killing the deal so as not to be flying the flag of a hugely corrupt banking corporation. But I suppose as long as the sponsorship money rolls in FSG probably won't care.

I won't be buying a shirt. I don't like my 05-06 Reebok shirt much, and I'm really kicking myself for not getting one of the 08-09 shirts, since I like all three variants. I'll probably spend the money on another Columbus shirt instead.
 
Surely the marketing officer got paid off on the side which is why he signed and subsequently resigned knowing millions were waiting in his swiss account?
 
Fret not, Liverpool and Manchester United types – things could be worse on the shirt front, if you'll pardon the pun. Come back to me halfway through a sponsorship deal with Cash Converters and tell me what you think then.

Pah.
 
Seems City are looking to poach Agger. Also not liking this rumour that Song has agreed personal terms with Barca. Arguably our second best player last season and Wenger is just gonna let him walk? Thats another player we've developed only to be fed off to another club upon maturing.
 
England are the third best international squad on Earth. Is this an illustration of the uselessness of the FIFA world ranking, or is it a deliberate dig at the English by Blatter & Co.? ;)

daneoni said:
Seems City are looking to poach Agger. Also not liking this rumour that Song has agreed personal terms with Barca. Arguably our second best player last season and Wenger is just gonna let him walk? Thats another player we've developed only to be fed off to another club upon maturing.
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I hope the rumors about Agger are false, or at least that he turns down the offers. He was our best defender last season, and if he stays healthy he probably has five or six seasons left in him. Liverpool have even less leverage than Arsenal when it comes to keeping players, so I'm worried.

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For all the non Dutch readers. :D


http://www.marketwatch.com/story/news-corp-buys-51-of-dutch-football-tv-rights-2012-08-08
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I'm sure it was a money-making move first and foremost. I doubt it will increase television coverage of the Eredivisie in the US. But that would be nice.
 
Naismith scored 3 in the Tony Hibbert testimonial today. Hope it's a sign of things to come this season at Goodison and on the road.

Also Hibbo scored so they rioted,as promised. Well pitch invaded, doesn't look like any violence took place.
 
USA 2-1 Japan

USA women win gold, and take their revenge for the World Cup! What a group of players...so skilled, with mental and physical toughness to boot. It's been a sensational tournament for them. Well done!
 
Japan could've and probably should've won. Played really well. Deserved 2 penalties for the handball and rugby tackle.
 
Gotta hand it to the USA ;).

Some entertaining games - Canada smash and grab Bronze.

It was odd seeing players show good skill one moment, then fail to control an easy ball the next.

Cheers,
OW
 
USA/Japan: I'm always impressed by their fitness.

I am looking forward to the world cup of 2015, I think Herdman and Canada are on a good way. Unbelievable though that France didn't get one of the 22 or more shots into a goal.

Oh, not to forget Euro 2013. Sweden, France and Germany being hot candidates for the Finale. How frustrating that will be to France, if they, say, loose against Sweden again and that in the semi or the Finale.

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Löw anounced his prelimitary squad (heading to the World Cup):
Podolski - will be left overseas (Löw wants to give him time to adjust to Arsenal and the premier league).
Gomez - is kept out for his injured foot (Löw didn't say anything about asigning him later), Klose being the only striker nominated.
Tim Wiese - is left out to give the younger goal keepers a chance to develop more. As well as Cacau. Both are not playing a role in his plans anymore, he said.
Schweinsteiger - left out for injuries (but not admitted to gain at a later time, yet).
Lahm - left out though he wanted to play, Löw said he wants him to stay with his family when the baby comes. (Allthough I can't imagine Lahm not returning)
Mertesacker - left out (same reason as Podolski).

hole squad can be seen here http://www.gmx.net/themen/sport/fussball/nationalelf/049igh4-loew-verzichtet-podolski-schweinsteiger
(were it says "15. August gegen Argentinien in Frankfurt."). It's german, but think Twietee was asking for Mertesacker's future.

Wonder, if this is just saying kindly "you are out" or just the status quo. Also interesting that Löw first said to not having put the wrong players on against Italy, after the Euro. Now he seems to see, how much he overrated Podolski and Gomez and that it was his mistake, too.
 
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daneoni said:
Japan could've and probably should've won. Played really well. Deserved 2 penalties for the handball and rugby tackle.
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I thought both Canada and Japan were every bit as physical at times. USA rode their luck here and there, but I think they fully deserved their win.

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Gotta hand it to the USA ;).

Some entertaining games - Canada smash and grab Bronze.

It was odd seeing players show good skill one moment, then fail to control an easy ball the next.
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In terms of pure skill potential, a lot of the players look as good as any in the male side of football, and their fitness is also excellent. But they don't get as much playing time as the men due to the status of the women's professional game. I think with more playing time they'd be even sharper. I think the USA players were pretty tired towards the end of the match as a result of playing extra time against Canada.

Some Columbus fans were joking that we should buy Alex Morgan to shore up our midfield. I'd take her in a minute, and I'm not kidding in the slightest.
 
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Some Columbus fans were joking that we should buy Alex Morgan to shore up our midfield. I'd take her in a minute, and I'm not kidding in the slightest.
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You could always buy Robbie Rogers, who has found himself on the transfer list at Leeds United.

The vaunted takeover at Elland Road looks to be dead in the water, and Rogers is one of a number of players listed as Colin looks for alternative funds for purchases now that he knows he's not getting any cash from oil sheikhs.
 
Poor Robbie...I never expected him to set Leeds alight, but it is an ignominous end to his Leeds career. I wonder if he'll stick it out in Europe or try to return to MLS.

I also wonder if we'll ever find out just who owns Leeds right now...

EDIT: Just caught Liverpool's home match against Gomel in the Europa League...Borini scored and showed some promise; he, Suarez and Gerrard looked like an effective attacking force at times. I'm still not impressed with Adam and Downing. Good to see Lucas back. 9 days till the league starts...
 
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Not so excellent news for the Glazers, as there's not much trading going on...
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daneoni said:
Japan could've and probably should've won. Played really well. Deserved 2 penalties for the handball and rugby tackle.
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Well, it seems "hobbits" (pardon) do "fly" easily, when touched. ;) I actually wonder how good they keep standing in some situations and in others were they fall, they do not even complain and get up quickly to be of help in the game.
Lord Blackadder said:
In terms of pure skill potential, a lot of the players look as good as any in the male side of football, and their fitness is also excellent. (...)

Some Columbus fans were joking that we should buy Alex Morgan to shore up our midfield. I'd take her in a minute, and I'm not kidding in the slightest.
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I would gladly watch the US-national team against a MLS, Premier League, Bundesliga team or something like that. Have there been Test games? Here in Germany they do only test against under-16 teams (were they loose arround 0:3) and the Women's Bundesliga do test against Kreisliga (losses of 2:11 seem not uncommon).

Is US men's football at the same level of quality as in Europe? What I got from German media, it is always pictured as not, while US-women's football is more common in the US and that it is seen as a typical highschool sport for girls there. Sorry, if that question sounds to stereotype and narrowminded.
 
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