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The 2012-2013 Football Thread

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German state television has it that russian secret service warned Germany of a terror act. It was the same service that told the US about Boston. The German minister of the Inner said, that their own services don't have any information, but they take it serious. The inner minister of Saxony said, they did discuss that at the conference of the ministers of the inner affairs lately and new it then already, but that they get warnings from the neighbour secret services everyday anyway and that the warning does not have something to do with the CL-Final, but they are prepared. Another source said they have one special person under observation and are prepared.

I find it very nice of Russia to tell us, since they were so cold war like against the US and its "allies" on the Syria and Israel thing, during the last months.
 
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In MLS news. Chicago Fire trade Robbie Rogers rights to LA Galaxy for Mike Magee. As a Fire fan I cant help but think that LA really took it in the shorts on this trade. Magee might have a few years age on Rogers but has always been a solid player. I hope he can resolve Chicago's goal scoring problems.
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Magee is a consistent performer at the MLS level, while Robbie's considerable potential never really seemed to pan out. Still, after coming out and joining a club closer to home maybe his head will be in the right place and he'll come closer to reaching his potential.

I expect Magee to perform well at Chicago, but at the same time the club has more problems than can be solved by one player at the moment.
 
Lord Blackadder said:
Magee is a consistent performer at the MLS level, while Robbie's considerable potential never really seemed to pan out. Still, after coming out and joining a club closer to home maybe his head will be in the right place and he'll come closer to reaching his potential.

I expect Magee to perform well at Chicago, but at the same time the club has more problems than can be solved by one player at the moment.
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Agreed, the team with the exception of a handful of players needs a complete overhaul.

In EPL news Everton have unveiled their new crest:
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In my opinion it looks HORRIBLE. :mad:
 
Yup — poor crest. :eek:

Meanwhile, I'm currently sat in an Italian bar surrounded by Bayern fans watching the Champions League final. We're backing the Bavarians in the hope they'll buy us drinks if they win. :D

Mrs Cake told them we were Hull City fans. One politely pretended to know who she was talking about. Heh.
 
Dortmund needed to capitalise on their 1st half display. They didn't and got sucker punched.

Still, good on Robben. Man on a mission and finally gets his reward.
 
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That was a great football match.

I'm left a bit depressed that the overdogs won as usual. Dortmund really missed Gotze. You have to wonder how things would have panned out if he'd have been on the pitch. Still, some great football on show and Robben played a big role in the win. Both keepers were superb, Weidenfeller in particular.

I loved Subotic's goal line clearance, that was just awesome.

Ribery was a ****ing disgrace in an otherwise pretty clean game. What a world class jerk he is...

It wasn't to be Dortmund, but I was pulling for you.
 
What a bummer. But still, awesome game overall. Robben deserved it, but in the end, I think I'm rightfully disliking the Bavarians..Dortmund gave their best, would have brought in Sahin 10 min earlier though.
 
Dante should have been sent off. Terrible decision by the ref there. Lewandowski could have gone for the stamp on Boateng, but the latter maybe oversold it.
 
Wonder if Mr and Mrs Cake got some free beers?

Since I'm not a die hard fan(atic), I can live with the game, glad it was an open fight without too many tactical boundaries. Agree about the ref. My boss will be impossible though (whole city likewise).

Pretty horrible choreo on the field at the beginning! :confused: :eek:

Oh, and here's hoping that not the complete team of Dortmund gets traded away. Gündogan was brilliant! Schweinsteiger and Lahm looked like bureaucrats..
 
You always need a bit of luck and luck was with Bayern tonight. First Gotze didn't play, then the deflection past Schmelzer for the 1st goal.

Then the 2 key decisions not given, and finally the blocked/deflected backpass from Ribery falling to Robben's path anyway.

Overall, Bayern edged it anyway once Dortmund ran out of gas. So congrats to them and commiserations to Dortmund. I wonder what next for Klopp, Reus and Lewandowski but i guess we'll soon find out.

I guess that concludes the 2012/2013 season. If i were to describe it in one word; Predictable-ish. Didn't quite foresee the German revolution. But otherwise, everyone else was 'as you were'.
 
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I guess that concludes the 2012/2013 season. If i were to describe it in one word; Predictable-ish. Didn't quite foresee the German revolution. But otherwise, everyone else was 'as you were'.
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Apart from Wigan's FA cup win this has been the most boring season I can remember. Power is increasingly being consolidated in a small number of clubs.
 
Lord Blackadder said:
Power is increasingly being consolidated in a small number of clubs.
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I think for a sport to truly thrive, you need to have both salary cap (maximum salary amount spent on players per team) and salary floor (minimum salary amount spent on players per team). Problem is, I just don't see any of the top-tier professional football leagues in Europe implementing this.

(By the way, despite what some commentators say, Borussia Dortmund is NOT I would describe as the "People's Team." The team is very well-funded, has a high-capacity stadium, and a large number of fans--sounds almost like another version of Bayern München!)
 
Great game all said, Dortmund couldn't capitalise from a great start and ran out of gas at the end, Neuer and Weindenfeller were just great.

SactoGuy18 said:
I think for a sport to truly thrive, you need to have both salary cap (maximum salary amount spent on players per team) and salary floor (minimum salary amount spent on players per team). Problem is, I just don't see any of the top-tier professional football leagues in Europe implementing this.

(By the way, despite what some commentators say, Borussia Dortmund is NOT I would describe as the "People's Team." The team is very well-funded, has a high-capacity stadium, and a large number of fans--sounds almost like another version of Bayern München!)
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Well as a whole i'd say German Clubs are the Peoples Team out of all leagues in Europe, they're largely profitable without influx of money made outside of the club itself.

And lately Dortmund's sucess has been built on young players.

They do have the largest stadium by far in the bundesliga though.

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Schweinsteiger and Lahm looked like bureaucrats..
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That's how all germans look :p
 
jsolares said:
Great game all said, Dortmund couldn't capitalise from a great start and ran out of gas at the end, Neuer and Weindenfeller were just great.



Well as a whole i'd say German Clubs are the Peoples Team out of all leagues in Europe, they're largely profitable without influx of money made outside of the club itself.

And lately Dortmund's sucess has been built on young players.
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I to agree with these points.

Well maybe not the best final but certainly one of the closest in years. Dortmund should have done better for all their possession in the first half.

But Bayern München seen all the games of the Champions League are worthy winners.
 
^Will be interesting. Have not made my mind up on him (re most overrated player), so I quite like his move.
 
SactoGuy18 said:
(By the way, despite what some commentators say, Borussia Dortmund is NOT I would describe as the "People's Team." The team is very well-funded, has a high-capacity stadium, and a large number of fans--sounds almost like another version of Bayern München!)
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A good point, Dortmund are not minnows. But I think Dortmund serves my point quite well - despite having a lot of money, great fan support, a great big stadium and making the Champions League final they still can't protect their own players from truly big clubs of Europe. They are still not in that class.

It's a bit lame to see Bayern steal both Gotze and Lewandowski from Dortmund. I hate seeing key players being sold to rival clubs. Dortmund could probably get equal or better money for Lewandowski from other clubs, but he wants to go to Bayern.
 
Cox Orange said:
I find it very nice of Russia to tell us, since they were so cold war like against the US and its "allies" on the Syria and Israel thing, during the last months.
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Self-interest rules all parties.

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+ 1 re 2 v 1 red cards - though I see Ribbery's as 2 yellows, not a straight red for the first incedent.

+ 1 asking why Klopp didn't add energy before he did.

Lampard goal by Robben? Late burst gambling on the ball breaking for him.

Looking forward to next season; change of managers - anxious re Manchester United but interesting - Oscar and Hazard second term, RVP's fitness, how the young players at Aston Villa perform, Arsenal joining the rest and unleashing their war chest, can Bruce get any bigger, and MacRumors Fantasy Football :D

Cheers,
OW
 
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It's been all said about the game, but I sometimes wonder, were referees stay in some situations. I mean, it can happen, that a referee blocks a ball in the open field, but that one in the first 20minutes, were he stood in front of Neuer might have taken away the first goal off of Dortmund.

Some said Weidenfeller and Neuer were both great. I agree, but I think with the first Bayern goal he was going too much risk, or what would you think? Would it have done anything different, if he would have stayed near the box? (also the second time, were Subitic cleared for him). Interesting though, both Neuer (I remember the undeserved booing he got in the match against Kasachstan, because he passed a ball right beside a striker of Kasachstan, like not taking a risk, but being stupid or to selfasured) and Weidenfeller are getting equal in the number of risks they were willing to take that season (Neuer was critizised for that during the season and with Weidenfeller they said, that he does this anyway and that would differentiate him from Neuer and be the reason why he is not in the national team. But then again, as I said they have gotten very close in terms of risky actions).


Watching a talk right now. Someone said "I heard Paul Breitner is still in Wembley, because he didn't get through the security check". They also are discussing about Löw. Though I not see him finish the next years, I wonder, though how many Finals he has to loose, till he gets fired. If you look at how fast the managements are with such decisions in other cases.


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yes, it was about people from chechnya, I heard today.
 
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I agree about Löw losing finals, but look at some of the key players he has: Lahm and Schweinsteiger. Possibly the worst players yesterday (Ribery not counting - too far off). Schweinsteiger definitely was imho, and was lucky to have Javi playing for both of em. Compare how Gündogan bossed the game in comparison to Schweinsteiger - he doesn't even has nerves enough any more for decent standards.

I'm not too fond of Müller, but like Alaba a lot and hope those young guns don't try stepping into their footsteps too much. Badstuber, although I pity his extremely bad luck, seemed to do that. Kroos already did (kinda big mouth, but not able to stand up shooting an important pen like in last years final).
 
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PS: I find Merkel sometimes really has humor. She said to Klopp "well, there are worse situations one can meet someone the first time"
 
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