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The 2012-2013 Football Thread
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twietee
macrumors 603
I terribly fell victim to a spam-bot 😱
because I never click on links posted by strangers..sorry, Jaffa, didn't read your article either..😱
Fizzoid
macrumors 68020
Problem with Owen is (was?) that his game was based on his pace, hanging off the shoulder of the last defender, getting in behind and scoring.
Unfortunately at his age he can't be that player anymore, and due to injury, he hasn't really been able to successfully adapt. Many people also question his commitment, saying that he lives on past glories (sound familiar? 😉 )
Personally, I wish him well and hope he stays injury free and bags loads of goals.
twietee
macrumors 603
It's a link to a BBC article, but here's a brief recap...
- Lower League manager goes out for a ride on his bike.
- Said manager collides with squirrel, falls off bike.
- Manager fears serious injury or death, but emerges relatively unscathed.
- Fate of squirrel currently unknown.
takao
macrumors 68040
i remember how 10 years some fellow friend shouted me down when i stated "once he is over 30 he will average at best"
compared to other pacey strikers he simply never adopted a different approach over years
just look to Pippo Inzaghi: at young age he was blazing fast and in his late years he had excellent game intelligence skills and positioning
twietee
macrumors 603
Thank's, that was more or less what I read out of your comments, only that my imagination exchanged the bike with a Ferrari..well makes a little bit more sense now.
On a side note, I really dig your comments..that's what I always like about British humour: they make fun of me in a nice way.
Confuzzzed
macrumors 68000
You're just trying to push me over the edge, aren't you? Admit it. And there's me being all sympathetic usually towards small clubs like Wednesday and Everton
Lord Blackadder
macrumors P6
daneoni
macrumors G5
What else did he expect in a team that has Iniesta and Xavi in midfield?
Everybody predicted he was going to be a benchwarmer, which is what made the move more frustrating.
That midfield is packed and until Xavi retires and/or Iniesta becomes unfit/retires he's not walking into the first eleven. I'd say i have sympathy for him but i honestly don't.
Song might suffer the same fate, especially considering the fact that Busquets is only 24yrs old.
Its the same with RVP. Complains about having to carry a whole team on his back...yet he is currently doing the exact same thing at United.
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Lord Blackadder
macrumors P6
The thing is, he's still playing quite a bit, and he's in the best team in the world. If that's not good enough and he needs to be top dog in his club, he should go back to Arsenal. Because he's not good enough to be top dog at Barca - and that's hardly a slam on Fabregas.
Best not, they might breed.
Coud you imagine the petulant, preening offspring of such an unholy union? Ugh. 😱
Lord Blackadder
macrumors P6
It would be an ill-mannered child who instinctively spits at people from Hull.
I doubt Hugo Lloris will even be playing at 40, let alone dominating his area the way ex-Columbus goalkeeping ace Brad Friedel does.
Sorry Hugo, we can't all be like Brad. 😉
Fizzoid
macrumors 68020
Well at least someone's happy!
Sorry it's nothing more interesting, I couldn't find many happy players at the moment 🙄
Sorry it's nothing more interesting, I couldn't find many happy players at the moment 🙄
twietee
macrumors 603
I was also happy reading that; but first as I got to know that the point-deduction remains intact for FPL..😀
Fizzoid
macrumors 68020
I think the problem with most Arsenal fans is that they got used to winning things pre 2005 on what now, is a shoestring budget. Because they were winning, and doing well in Europe, they could attract some top players to keep the cycle going. But since Abramovich took over Chelsea in 2003, and more recently Man City having a transfer budget that matches many countries GDP, winning became all about the money, and Arsenal simply don't have a few oil fields tucked away to use as a piggy bank.
The only team that seem to have bucked the trend somewhat is Man U who clearly can still compete, domestically at least. But then they have the 'Fergie Factor' which is their biggest asset, as well as a huge fan base around the world which used to make them money, pre Glaziers. However, I think we saw last season, in Europe especially, that the Fergie Factor may not be enough. When they sold Ronaldo, at the time the world's best player, questions were asked who'd replace him, and clearly no one has, with Man U's midfield looking more shaky by the season
The only team that seem to have bucked the trend somewhat is Man U who clearly can still compete, domestically at least. But then they have the 'Fergie Factor' which is their biggest asset, as well as a huge fan base around the world which used to make them money, pre Glaziers. However, I think we saw last season, in Europe especially, that the Fergie Factor may not be enough. When they sold Ronaldo, at the time the world's best player, questions were asked who'd replace him, and clearly no one has, with Man U's midfield looking more shaky by the season
daneoni
macrumors G5
I think fans (at least myself anyway) are just scratching their heads as to why we have one or two Billionaires on the board and none seem interested in injecting some money into the club to make it more competitive. But instead play a spectator role, collect dividends and go back home. All well and good balancing the books but its still a football club that needs to be competitive.
I'm not saying go out and buy £50m players and put them on £300k salaries. Just that they stop cheapening out and worrying so much about income to the point where it simply does more damage than good.
As it stands, the club is ran too much like a business corporation and the football/trophy aspect takes a back seat. Buy cheap, develop, sell high = profit. Job done. High fives all around for a good days work.
But i suppose thats what you get when you have the combo of a Manager with a Masters in Economics, and a majority owner who is the embodiment of Business Administration (B.A., B.S., MBA).
Still you're right about the general trend.
Probably would've this summer if he wasn't injured.
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Lord Blackadder
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New England 2-0 Columbus
Crappy turf pitch, big crumbling empty stadium, offside goal, own goal, fatigue. I don't want to talk about it. 😡 We have a week's rest after playing 7 games in 20ish days. If you told me 20 days ago that we were going to win four, draw two and lose one in seven games I'd have been delighted. But I'm grouchy today all the same.
I agree. Man City and Chelsea have completely redefined the parameters for success in the Premier League. Player wages have risen by over a thousand percent since 1992, and transfer fees have similarly skyrocketed. (check those numbers against inflation and the growth of the average national wage in the UK 🙁). Mind you, they aren't the first clubs to raise the financial bar through big spending. But they have taken it to astonishing new levels.
In Man Utd's case, they have been able to maintain their position through good revenue, a huge fan base and, crucially, the skill of Fergie in the transfer market, in the dressing room and on the pitch. But it seems to me (biased as I am) that they are only just treading water and I don't see them hanging in there when Fergie leaves. Even if they were to bring in a Mourinho or Ancelotti (and they probably will), will the new guy toe the Glazers' line the way Fergie does? And more importantly, will the Glazers respect the new guy to the same degree? I doubt it, partially because they just won't have the money to burn that the oil & gas barons have. At some point they too will become also-rans. But who knows? Maybe Fergie will be around for another ten years and outlive this financial bubble.
It remains to be seen whether financial fair play has any effect on this - clubs like Liverpool and Arsenal sure hope it does - but I have no faith it will help.
Crappy turf pitch, big crumbling empty stadium, offside goal, own goal, fatigue. I don't want to talk about it. 😡 We have a week's rest after playing 7 games in 20ish days. If you told me 20 days ago that we were going to win four, draw two and lose one in seven games I'd have been delighted. But I'm grouchy today all the same.
I agree. Man City and Chelsea have completely redefined the parameters for success in the Premier League. Player wages have risen by over a thousand percent since 1992, and transfer fees have similarly skyrocketed. (check those numbers against inflation and the growth of the average national wage in the UK 🙁). Mind you, they aren't the first clubs to raise the financial bar through big spending. But they have taken it to astonishing new levels.
In Man Utd's case, they have been able to maintain their position through good revenue, a huge fan base and, crucially, the skill of Fergie in the transfer market, in the dressing room and on the pitch. But it seems to me (biased as I am) that they are only just treading water and I don't see them hanging in there when Fergie leaves. Even if they were to bring in a Mourinho or Ancelotti (and they probably will), will the new guy toe the Glazers' line the way Fergie does? And more importantly, will the Glazers respect the new guy to the same degree? I doubt it, partially because they just won't have the money to burn that the oil & gas barons have. At some point they too will become also-rans. But who knows? Maybe Fergie will be around for another ten years and outlive this financial bubble.
It remains to be seen whether financial fair play has any effect on this - clubs like Liverpool and Arsenal sure hope it does - but I have no faith it will help.
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