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I would love to see Manning and Broncos spank the Seahawks in Super Bowl but if I had to put money on it, the Seahawks would rip them apart by easily two touchdowns.

If the Seahawks can do half of what to they do to Kap of the Niners to Peyton Manning, then it won't be pretty. Manning and the Broncos may have stepped up against KC, but they showed they can stink, too as they did in second half in game against NE handing the Patriots their best come from behind victory in a long time, maybe ever.

I think the NFC has to worry about the Patriots, too but overall the giants in the NFL this year are the Seahawks and Saints. The best way to the SB is to be dominant all the way around. Tonight will be, or should be, a tough fight and close game between the two best teams in football.

Even if Seattle loses tonight. Which I think they will. The Saints won't have things wrapped up. They still face the Panthers twice. I don't think they will beat them twice. If they do they deserve the NFC crown.

That and Seattle still has to play the 49'ers and Arizona. Both tough NFC teams. They also get to play the Giants in what could be a practice game in the Superbowl stadium.
If Seattle somehow manages to beat the Saints,the 49'ers and the Giants well then I'd say they will be a tough team to beat in the Super Bowl. I'd give the edge to the Broncos only because of the weather.
 
Even if Seattle loses tonight. Which I think they will. The Saints won't have things wrapped up. They still face the Panthers twice. I don't think they will beat them twice. If they do they deserve the NFC crown.

That and Seattle still has to play the 49'ers and Arizona. Both tough NFC teams. They also get to play the Giants in what could be a practice game in the Superbowl stadium.
If Seattle somehow manages to beat the Saints,the 49'ers and the Giants well then I'd say they will be a tough team to beat in the Super Bowl. I'd give the edge to the Broncos only because of the weather.

I don't think Seattle is a shoe in to lose tonight.

Definitely the two best teams in the NFC going at each other. Should be a good game.
 
I don't care if you are the last place team..... a win is a win. Any team can beat any team on any given day.

If we beat you by one, it is still a win.

So yup how about them Cowboys. :D

NFC East Team
Dallas Cowboys 7 5 0
Philadelphia Eagles 7 5 0
New York Giants 5 7 0
Washington Redskins 3 9 0

I predict an 8-8-0 to 9-7-0 finish... either way you should probably win that division. Hell you guys might win 10.... any amount of wins over 9 and i will post "how 'bout them Cowboys!" too...

clearly not the worst division in the NFL but not far apart from them either.
 
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The NFC West is looking much different than in years past. This has been a strange year in the NFL.


NFC WEST

Seattle 10 1
San Francisco 8 4
Arizona 7 5
St. Louis 5 7

I really thought we would be at top this year since we were rising last year and led into SB. With Seattle's win tonight, and this looks pretty sure on that, it will be very hard for SF to catch up. Will you guys lock up the wild card tonight with win?
 
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I really thought we would be at top this year since we were rising last year and led into SB. With Seattle's win tonight, and this looks pretty sure on that, it will be very hard for SF to catch up. Will you guys lock up the wild card tonight with win?

Seattle's the first team this season to lock up a playoff berth with tonight's 34-7 win.
They are 2 games ahead in the NFC at 11-1

What a game. They just dominated New Orleans.
 
Seattle's the first team this season to lock up a playoff berth with tonight's 34-7 win.
They are 2 games ahead in the NFC at 11-1

What a game. They just dominated New Orleans.

Dominating anybody 34-7 is hard to do, but to take out the #2 team in NFC and possibly the NFL's #2 team is a true show of dominance. Anyway congrats on playoff berth.

Here was the Bleacher Report's top two in the NFL right before game:

1. Seattle Seahawks (10-1)

Sorry for the spoilers in the intro.

The team with the NFL's best record will have a serious problem on its hands when the Saints come to town for a Monday Night Football contest.

Seattle has an elite rushing attack led by running back Marshawn Lynch, but the NFL's best pass defense will be without two starters in the secondary. That is bad news with Drew Brees coming to town.

The No. 1 spot is up for grabs Monday.



2. New Orleans Saints (9-2)

New Orleans has won three in a row heading into its Monday Night Football showdown with Seattle. The Saints clearly have a top offense with Drew Brees under center, but it's their defense—which is allowing just 17.8 points per game on average—that should give opponents nightmares.

Outside of Seattle, the Saints are the best team in the NFL. That could change if New Orleans can be the first team to knock off the Seahawks at home since December of 2011.
 
Seattle, possibly the best team in the NFL, clearly kicked *ss last night.

On a side note, Seattle, you have the most obnoxious fans too...


That said I wouldn't mind seeing them win the whole schlemeel.

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I really thought we would be at top this year since we were rising last year and led into SB. With Seattle's win tonight, and this looks pretty sure on that, it will be very hard for SF to catch up. Will you guys lock up the wild card tonight with win?

Me too.

It looks like folks have "Kap" figured out though... =(
 
Drew Brees said it himself tonight.

"We just got outplayed".

See ya next week. Should be a good game.

Fried bologna sandwich, the more I think about it. The Saints got beaten to a pulp because the offense couldn't function in the deafening din equivalent to a jet airliner with its engines running built not far from CenturyLink Field. :D
 
I would love to see Manning and Broncos spank the Seahawks in Super Bowl but if I had to put money on it, the Seahawks would rip them apart by easily two touchdowns.

If the Seahawks can do half of what to they do to Kap of the Niners to Peyton Manning, then it won't be pretty. Manning and the Broncos may have stepped up against KC, but they showed they can stink, too as they did in second half in game against NE handing the Patriots their best come from behind victory in a long time, maybe ever.

I think the NFC has to worry about the Patriots, too but overall the giants in the NFL this year are the Seahawks and Saints. The best way to the SB is to be dominant all the way around. Tonight will be, or should be, a tough fight and close game between the two best teams in football.

Again, I said threat, I never said they would win. Right now, to me, they look to be the strongest in the AFC.
 
Again, I said threat, I never said they would win. Right now, to me, they look to be the strongest in the AFC.

I see what you mean. The Broncos could likely go to SB against a NO or Seattle, but they would probably get outclassed in a rout.

Seattle looks super tough and in their own category but in this violent sport all it takes is a couple of injuries, but sometimes just one, and the whole team is out of contention.

With no protection on blind side, and getting hit so often this year, I won't hold my breath for Denver. I like New England's chances of making it to Super Bowl better this year. I think they will click this month and all remaining opponents will lose by a big margin like it was in the old days. No team in recent memory owns December more than the New England Patriots. I am thinking big points, and yards from New England and maybe Denver if they hold up. But completely healthy, then Denver probably has a better shot against the top talent in NFC.

This year is turning out to be one of the more boring ones as they usually are when the best teams are piled in one division. With Atlanta, Pittsburgh, Green Bay, NY Jets, and NY Giants out of serious contention, it doesn't feel like a full roster. There's no anticipation for the Super Bowl and the real SB will be the NFC championship. My two sport fan friend at Starbucks basically said it's time now to wait for baseball. The dull conference thing was that way for four years from the 1991 through 1994 seasons when it was all about Dallas going against San Francisco, where that dominant winner would go against some cannon fodder AFC team. I am a Niners fan and when we got to that Super Bowl it was just a matter of showing up to pick up the trophy. It would have meant so much more had we battled an AFC team like the Steelers or Raiders in their prime.

There's a lot of love in the press for Peyton Manning, probably because it could be his last season (unless he decides to be like Favre and fade away slowly en route to catching all those records) but the Broncos will be a sacrificial lamb to the NFC if they go this year if right now is any indicator. He will be like Jim Kelly, great at his position but on a team that can't match who the NFC has brewing. We know Seattle is the known threat but New Orleans is still very much in it, too:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...hat-we-learned-monday-saints-down-but-not-out
 
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I see what you mean. The Broncos could likely go to SB against a NO or Seattle, but they would probably get outclassed in a rout.

Seattle looks super tough and in their own category but in this violent sport all it takes is a couple of injuries, but sometimes just one, and the whole team is out of contention.

With no protection on blind side, and getting hit so often this year, I won't hold my breath for Denver. I like New England's chances of making it to Super Bowl better this year. I think they will click this month and all remaining opponents will lose by a big margin like it was in the old days. No team in recent memory owns December more than the New England Patriots. I am thinking big points, and yards from New England and maybe Denver if they hold up. But completely healthy, then Denver probably has a better shot against the top talent in NFC.

This year is turning out to be one of the more boring ones as they usually are when the best teams are piled in one division. With Atlanta, Pittsburgh, Green Bay, NY Jets, and NY Giants out of serious contention, it doesn't feel like a full roster. There's no anticipation for the Super Bowl and the real SB will be the NFC championship. My two sport fan friend at Starbucks basically said it's time now to wait for baseball. The dull conference thing was that way for four years from the 1991 through 1994 seasons when it was all about Dallas going against San Francisco, where that dominant winner would go against some cannon fodder AFC team. I am a Niners fan and when we got to that Super Bowl it was just a matter of showing up to pick up the trophy. It would have meant so much more had we battled an AFC team like the Steelers or Raiders in their prime.

There's a lot of love in the press for Peyton Manning, probably because it could be his last season (unless he decides to be like Favre and fade away slowly en route to catching all those records) but the Broncos will be a sacrificial lamb to the NFC if they go this year if right now is any indicator. He will be like Jim Kelly, great at his position but on a team that can't match who the NFC has brewing. We know Seattle is the known threat but New Orleans is still very much in it, too:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...hat-we-learned-monday-saints-down-but-not-out

If the Bronco's make it the big game and they play either NO or SS, after what I saw last night from SS, I would not want to play them. Granted this is just one game but still, they looked really good and they have looked good throughout the season.
 
If the Bronco's make it the big game and they play either NO or SS, after what I saw last night from SS, I would not want to play them. Granted this is just one game but still, they looked really good and they have looked good throughout the season.

It's really hard for me to see the one team in the NFL I don't like, and most Niners fans despise, do very well this year. I think the Seahawks may be better overall than the Saints, but also the Saints were just off last night. They are second on power rankings but I wouldn't call it a distant second and last night was only one game. I want to find a weakness in the Seahawks but there aren't any. I could be a 49ers homer and say there were bad calls, or that somebody was hurt, or showcase what good stats my team has, but any way you look at it Seattle is a better team. Even if we pull off a miracle and win the division, I still maintain Seattle are better and have had a better season. We have to be tough in last four games and simply not choke and lose too many third down opportunities.

Other than last night, the stats that NO puts up are great. Brees could very well have his best year on yards and TDs. Even when the Saints are not the team to watch, Brees is always doing well and you can never count him out. If NFC final game comes to those two, I hope Saints get it.
 
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It's really hard for me to see the one team in the NFL I don't like, and most Niners fans despise, do very well this year. I think the Seahawks may be better overall than the Saints, but also the Saints were just off last night. They are second on power rankings but I wouldn't call it a distant second and last night was only one game. I want to find a weakness in the Seahawks but there aren't any. I could be a 49ers homer and say there were bad calls, or that somebody was hurt, or showcase what good stats my team has, but any way you look at it Seattle is a better team. Even if we pull off a miracle and win the division, I still maintain Seattle are better and have had a better season. We have to be tough in last four games and simply not choke and lose too many third down opportunities.

Other than last night, the stats that NO puts up are great. Brees could very well have his best year on yards and TDs. Even when the Saints are not the team to watch, Brees is always doing well and you can never count him out. If NFC final game comes to those two, I hope Saints get it.

Spoken like a true niners fan! haha :D

Me, I am of course pulling for the boys from Dallas. But I don't see them going very far. :(

I like Bree's and company and think he is a great QB. Off or not, I liked what I saw from Seattle last night and I have to wonder if the home field advantage played into this and also the defense also contributed to the "off" offense we were seeing.
 
Fried bologna sandwich, the more I think about it. The Saints got beaten to a pulp because the offense couldn't function in the deafening din equivalent to a jet airliner with its engines running built not far from CenturyLink Field. :D

You do know Seattle heard the same thunder the Saints heard right ?



137.9 Db. World record.

148 Yds Passing. Brees record.

:D
 
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Spoken like a true niners fan! haha :D

Me, I am of course pulling for the boys from Dallas. But I don't see them going very far. :(

I like Bree's and company and think he is a great QB. Off or not, I liked what I saw from Seattle last night and I have to wonder if the home field advantage played into this and also the defense also contributed to the "off" offense we were seeing.

I admit, I am going to root for anybody who beats my team, and this year it's most notably the Seahawks. If they go to SB to represent the NFC I hope the AFC teams beats them, and by a huge margin. It's part jealously and part revenge. Now if something happens in the future and a current Seahawks star becomes a Niner, then I am their #1 fan. I am OK with all of this.

What I don't like is that when a Niners fan, or fan or any other team is a homer. They blame it on the personal life of the coach, the bad calls of the refs, or the experts getting it wrong and purposely underrating a team who goes on to beat you in the Super Bowl. All that stuff, which I rail regularly against here, bugs me and a person should admit that their team lost a game and/or chocked. In last year's Super Bowl, my team choked in the end and it cost us our perfect Super Bowl record. The Ravens weren't even supposed to be a serious opponent and nobody called Flacco, Lewis, and company rising to the occasion like that. Even though Kap is young he already collapsed in the big game in a way as terrible and memorably as John Elway's first three big game losses, Jim Kelly's four losses in a row, and Tom Brady's two losses to underdog Giants. Kap and Niners were right there last year near the goal line, with plenty of downs and time left, and they couldn't make that extra inch. It sucked for all of us here and the whole team let down the bay area, simple as that.

The only other team that had our number like that was Dallas, you guys, and I spent a good deal of time hating them, especially since Dallas gear has always been, and will continue to be popular in and near San Francisco. We had Young and Rice, but you had Aikman, Smith, and Irving and your three were better than our two. There are other reasons for the Cowboys being popular near me, but that (and the popularity of the color blue with gangs) belongs in PRSI or at least a true crime thread. When I do see a real fan of Dallas, and not the coolness of wearing blue to show a unity to certain youth gangs, then I am OK with it. Back when you guys were having issues with Romo and we were having issues with Alex Smith, I would have gladly made a trade then, but now both Romo and Smith have turned it up a notch just as our Kap has turned it down. ;)
 
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The NFC West part doesn't show Seattle in the Super Bowl either. Remember ? The one where Pittsburg stole the game ?
This wouldn't be the first Super Bowl for the Seahawks. They got robbed by the Pittsburg Steelers 21-10 in 2006.

I think you are being 100% unfair here. I was able to watch that game, and I got the clear impression that there was no "theft" going on at all. Give Pittsburgh credit for what was obviously duly bought and paid for.
 
I think you are being 100% unfair here. I was able to watch that game, and I got the clear impression that there was no "theft" going on at all. Give Pittsburgh credit for what was obviously duly bought and paid for.

I'm not gonna argue over it. It's in the past and done.

This year is what my focus is now. Especially playing in San Francisco.

All Seattle has to do is win 2 of the last 4 games and they have the #1 seed.
 
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I'm not gonna argue over it. It's in the past and done.

This year is what my focus is now. Especially playing in San Francisco.

All Seattle has to do is win 2 of the last 4 games and they have the #1 seed.

You can get those two games and get your top seed, but please don't beat San Francisco. I want to at least make a wild card and once postseason is upon us soon, it's a new season of sudden death football. You have all the talent with Seahawks so it's pretty much just staying out of trouble and not beating yourselves. In a way, being #1 at end of season for NFC and NFL could be very hard and the pressure is on you. Even though you have had great seasons in the past, I think this one brings your best chance at Lombardi Trophy. If you go on to 15-1 then everyone will expect a Super Bowl seeing anything else as complete failure and you will have almost the same pressure that New England had when they went 16-0.
 
You can get those two games and get your top seed, but please don't beat San Francisco. I want to at least make a wild card and once postseason is upon us soon, it's a new season of sudden death football. You have all the talent with Seahawks so it's pretty much just staying out of trouble and not beating yourselves. In a way, being #1 at end of season for NFC and NFL could be very hard and the pressure is on you. Even though you have had great seasons in the past, I think this one brings your best chance at Lombardi Trophy. If you go on to 15-1 then everyone will expect a Super Bowl seeing anything else as complete failure and you will have almost the same pressure that New England had when they went 16-0.

You could make the wildcard. Seattle has lost 4 straight at Candlestick Park.

Seattle could take the NFC West crown if they win though.
 
You can get those two games and get your top seed, but please don't beat San Francisco. I want to at least make a wild card ...

"Please"? That was a mistake. Show a little pride before you fall. I mean, I suppose Seattle should thank SF for knocking Atlanta out of the show, but that was ten months ago. If the Hawks can trip the Niners in Seattle's final-ever visit to Candlestick, given that the Cardinals will probably win on Sunday, the Niners will be pushed down to the brink of third place in the NFC-W, there will be a certain satisfaction to that.

The bookies have the line at SF -1.5 (expecting them to win), which is awfully tight against this Seattle team. Just keep your head up, no tears if you lose. The wild card could come down to your last game.
 
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I admit, I am going to root for anybody who beats my team, and this year it's most notably the Seahawks. If they go to SB to represent the NFC I hope the AFC teams beats them, and by a huge margin. It's part jealously and part revenge. Now if something happens in the future and a current Seahawks star becomes a Niner, then I am their #1 fan. I am OK with all of this.

What I don't like is that when a Niners fan, or fan or any other team is a homer. They blame it on the personal life of the coach, the bad calls of the refs, or the experts getting it wrong and purposely underrating a team who goes on to beat you in the Super Bowl. All that stuff, which I rail regularly against here, bugs me and a person should admit that their team lost a game and/or chocked. In last year's Super Bowl, my team choked in the end and it cost us our perfect Super Bowl record. The Ravens weren't even supposed to be a serious opponent and nobody called Flacco, Lewis, and company rising to the occasion like that. Even though Kap is young he already collapsed in the big game in a way as terrible and memorably as John Elway's first three big game losses, Jim Kelly's four losses in a row, and Tom Brady's two losses to underdog Giants. Kap and Niners were right there last year near the goal line, with plenty of downs and time left, and they couldn't make that extra inch. It sucked for all of us here and the whole team let down the bay area, simple as that.

The only other team that had our number like that was Dallas, you guys, and I spent a good deal of time hating them, especially since Dallas gear has always been, and will continue to be popular in and near San Francisco. We had Young and Rice, but you had Aikman, Smith, and Irving and your three were better than our two. There are other reasons for the Cowboys being popular near me, but that (and the popularity of the color blue with gangs) belongs in PRSI or at least a true crime thread. When I do see a real fan of Dallas, and not the coolness of wearing blue to show a unity to certain youth gangs, then I am OK with it. Back when you guys were having issues with Romo and we were having issues with Alex Smith, I would have gladly made a trade then, but now both Romo and Smith have turned it up a notch just as our Kap has turned it down. ;)


You and me both re: fair weather fans. If the team screws up and loses, well guess what they screwed up and lost.

Been a fan since I was sprinkle in my daddies.... well you know the rest.

Oh how I hate the Niners because of that one gosh darn play.... you know the one... Joe Montana rolls right, Ed Too Tall Jones in pursuit, the pass to Clark in the end zone and "The Catch"......................... that single instance has forever changed my feelings towards you guys. We never recovered after that until Jimmy Johnson came along. Even then it was a few years. Damn you SF.. DAMN YOU!!!!

Ok... Glad I got that off my chest. :D

Now what were we saying? LOL
 
Oh how I hate the Niners because of that one gosh darn play.... you know the one... Joe Montana rolls right, Ed Too Tall Jones in pursuit, the pass to Clark in the end zone and "The Catch"......................... that single instance has forever changed my feelings towards you guys. We never recovered after that until Jimmy Johnson came along. Even then it was a few years. Damn you SF.. DAMN YOU!!!!

Anyway, before the catch, we were often in the doghouse of the NFL. You had two titles and we had none. Yes, we had a great run of wins from '81-'99 but during a lot in the 1990s you certainly got your revenge for that one catch. You took two out of three NFC games from us. I know you have Romo but I haven't been scared of you guys, nor hated you for a long time. At least we both played in different divisions, but you could see the stress I have with the Seahawks in the NFC West instead of their original AFC West where they should have stayed.

What makes this fun is that even though I enjoyed almost all of the '80s and '90s as a fan getting used to winning, the big winning and dominance of Montana, Rice, and Young eventually came to an end. But since then we are in the best shape, and you too, for a run at it and taking a shot at Seattle. We are both in the wild card round of "Playoff picture if the season ended today" on the NFL website.
 
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