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The 2013-2014 Football Thread

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Jaffa Cake said:
Right, who had Walcott in the First England Player To Miss the Tournament Finals Through Injury Sweepstake™?

Also, cap doffed to Hr. Orange for managing to sneak a Neil Young reference in. ;)
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My Pleasure! ;)


On a different note, someone at Dortmund is wearing girly shoes (with flowers, the one in the back) or is there something we do not know, something "really innovative", which they prepare as a replacement for Lewa? :rolleyes:

http://www.bvb.de/var/ezdemo_site/s...g-Feature_bvbnachricht_teaser_top_regular.jpg

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Jozy Altidore is being turned into Emile Heskey at Sunderland, please somebody rescue him. :eek:

On another note, Fabio Borini just put Sundarland 2-1 ahead of Man Utd in their League Cup semifinal...just under five minutes left.
 
Lord Blackadder said:
Jozy Altidore is being turned into Emile Heskey at Sunderland, please somebody rescue him. :eek:
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I've seen the lad score in the League Cup, with my own eyes. Something to tell the grandkids about in years to come.

Cox Orange said:
On a different note, someone at Dortmund is wearing girly shoes (with flowers, the one in the back) or is there something we do not know, something "really innovative", which they prepare as a replacement for Lewa? :rolleyes:
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Actually, on the subject of boots - this caught my eye the other day.

A couple of Barca players have apparently been given some new Nike prototypes to wear and test out in training. Nothing odd about that really, until you see the boots themselves...

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High tops? Or built in socks? :confused:
 
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Silencio said:
Ta ra, Moyes.
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I'd be shocked if they fired him this season. He's Fergie's hand-picked successor and is on a six-year contract that is sure to have a massive golden parachute clause. Firing him would be a slap in the face to Ferguson and would cost a bundle.

Still, how much of this will the owners and fans tolerate? And do the owners have the necessary level of competence to select a replacement?

Most people would agree that Ferguson has had a lot to do with Man Utd's dominance over the last 25 years...but it's amazing to see just how much of it was truly down to him. Without Fergie United seem completely rudderless.

Jaffa Cake said:
I've seen the lad score in the League Cup, with my own eyes. Something to tell the grandkids about in years to come.
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In the Premier League, Jozy Altidore goals are rarer than Harry Kewell goals. :(

Those are some odd looking boots...
 
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I think it is fair to give Moyes until next December. The midfield has been a problem for at least 5 years and it looks a season too far for some of the older players - even Ferguson would struggle. Changes; manager, CEO, old guard.

Fans; the great away support v the phone in blubbers.

Owner competence; sort the transfers first.

Cheers,
OW
 
Meanwhile, some news from Thomas Hitzlsperger - he's revealed that he's gay, arguably the highest profile footballer to do so to date.

All credit to him of course, but it's sad that in football and wider society that being open about his sexuality is still seen as something he should have to be 'brave' about.
 
It's hardly being brave, announcing it after your footballing career is over.

It's a great shame he felt he couldn't come out while still playing...
 
Fizzoid said:
It's hardly being brave, announcing it after your footballing career is over.

It's a great shame he felt he couldn't come out while still playing...
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of the ~5500 professional football players who played in the german Bundesliga over the last 50 years he is actually the first ever to do so
so it's a huge deal in the german press right now ... on some news sites even the top news story
Die Zeit (where he was part of a multi-part series about topics "off the pitch" before) will put up the interview at around 16:00 local time.. their server even went down because of the number of requests after the news
 
Jaffa Cake said:
Meanwhile, some news from Thomas Hitzlsperger - he's revealed that he's gay, arguably the highest profile footballer to do so to date.

All credit to him of course, but it's sad that in football and wider society that being open about his sexuality is still seen as something he should have to be 'brave' about.
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Hopefully it becomes a non-event in years to come. But, as yet, he's only the fourth footballer to come out. So we have a long way to go.

Happybunny said:
I see that FIFA has announced that the WC of 2022 in Qatar will not be played in the Summer.
http://nos.nl/artikel/594968-fifatopman-wk-2022-niet-in-zomer.html
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This has been one of the more depressing episodes in world football. It continuously demonstrates the corruption and incompetence of FIFA. Worse still, there is absolutely no evidence that this situation will change in the foreseeable future.
 
This is huge! Can imagine in 2-3 years we're actually meeting modern times. Always hate those arguments saying outing oneself (this is o course always a private decision) would destroy a career because of chants...by that logic not one african player could play in the Bundesliga as well...and those jews...and on and on.

Well, not saying there aren't any serious issues about racism of course, one reason I actually am not that keen of going to a stadium.
 
The next step is for active players to feel they can come out without it damaging their careers. Obviously Hitzlsperger and Robbie Rogers didn't think that was possible, though Robbie is playing in MLS again.
 
Me thinks West Ham are going down. Big Sam facing yet another reel battle.

Wonder how the kid who cried at the Forest game is feeling right now.
 
Lord Blackadder said:
The next step is for active players to feel they can come out without it damaging their careers. Obviously Hitzlsperger and Robbie Rogers didn't think that was possible, though Robbie is playing in MLS again.
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If I read it correctly Hitzelsberger said, that it was not only the fans of another team, that would chant bad things, but that it happened that players of the own team said something against homosexuals. (Which I understand like, that it might have been common to say these things in the team, like it was en vogue, and considered like making jokes about boobs or beer. Maybe some players felt encouraged to say something against homosexuals, because they thought it helped their own standing in the team. - just my guessing).
Diese Haltung teilt der frühere Torhüter [Kamba] scheinbar nicht mit allen Profifußballern. Denn Hitzlsperger berichtet in dem Interview mit der "Zeit" auch von "Aufforderung zur Ausgrenzung und zur Gewalt" in der Kabine. Ein weiterer Grund, weshalb sich der ehemalige Nationalspieler gegen ein Outing zu seiner aktiven Zeit entschieden hat.
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In women's football one can see the reverse tendency. While a huge number of older players seem to be gay or bi-sexual (very popular national team players among them, some still active), the younger players seem to be mostly heterosexual (they seem to be more girly/girlish somehow anyway, must have something to do with the fact that women's football has become more popular).
(It seems that American players have more problems in being accepted in public, when I read posts on google. Mostly religious statements.)

Btw. Steffi Jones, former national team player (till 2007) and now DFB administrator(!) has recently announced that she will marry her girlfriend. It's interesting that it is not such a big deal in women's football, more like "I don't care". Well, of course, much less people care about women's football anyway.
 
Nasri looked very good today. Is it just me, or is he the type of player that sparkles when things are going well, but fades when things are not?

Cox Orange said:
If I read it correctly Hitzelsberger said, that it was not only the fans of another team, that would chant bad things, but that it happened that players of the own team said something against homosexuals. (Which I understand like, that it might have been common to say these things in the team, like it was en vogue, and considered like making jokes about boobs or beer. Maybe some players felt encouraged to say something against homosexuals, because they thought it helped their own standing in the team. - just my guessing).
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Robbie Rogers made similar comments about his experiences. I think that homophobia from fans is not the biggest problem; the biggest problem is homophobia within the sport - manifested by other players and managers. Male athletes all over the world are stereotypically macho and homophobic.
 
Lord Blackadder said:
Nasri looked very good today. Is it just me, or is he the type of player that sparkles when things are going well, but fades when things are not?
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That or when he's been coddled and in a happy mood. Basically he can be quite inconsistent.
 
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