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The 2020-2021 Football Thread

Expos of 1969 said:
I see that the boorish and classless behaviour of some of the English fans was carried forward by the English players who removed their medals seconds after having received them. What a pitiful display of bad sportsmanship. And some call them heroes.
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It’s become commonplace in football and seen in the champions league and South America. I would do the same thing to be honest in defeat as I’m sure many would. The situation is painful enough as it is without a medal you don’t really want. As long as the other team as respected and applauded, I don’t see an issue with it personally. There’s not much I can criticise this English team for and am immensely proud of their performance this tournament. They just need to ignore the media now and focus on rebuilding for next years World Cup
 
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The-Real-Deal82 said:
It’s become commonplace in football and seen in the champions league and South America. I would do the same thing to be honest in defeat as I’m sure many would. The situation is painful enough as it is without a medal you don’t really want. As long as the other team as respected and applauded, I don’t see an issue with it personally. There’s not much I can criticise this English team for and am immensely proud of their performance this tournament. They just need to ignore the media now and focus on rebuilding for next years World Cup
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I won't argue with you as we obviously have very different views of what class means. As you say, it is commonplace in football so that supports my opinion that football and its prima donna players with their diving and complaining and looking at the referee after every perceived infraction are mere shadows of the men who play ice hockey and rugby.

Unless the team dumps Southgate and makes other changes, they have very little chance getting very far in the World Cup. But, time will tell.
 
Expos of 1969 said:
I won't argue with you as we obviously have very different views of what class means. As you say, it is commonplace in football so that supports my opinion that football and its prima donna players with their diving and complaining and looking at the referee after every perceived infraction are mere shadows of the men who play ice hockey and rugby.

Unless the team dumps Southgate and makes other changes, they have very little chance getting very far in the World Cup. But, time will tell.
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We do most definitely.
The last thing they need to do is dump Southgate. He’s the best England manager we’ve had for decades and the last two tournaments we’ve made it to the semi final and final. We did as well as we possibly could without winning last night and this England team is a young team and still building. Long gone are the days of Man Utd, Chaldea and Liverpool players not mixing in training and lacking the passionate mindset. There are lots of positives from this tournament and we should be very positive for next years World Cup IMO. Time will tell absolutely.

The diving is sadly an element of the game nobody likes. It’s not because these players are weak or wimps but because it gains an advantage and UEFA have not done enough to stamp it out over the last 30 years. Football has a lot to learn from rugby in terms of referee respect, actually being able to use VAR properly etc, but maybe this will improve over time.
 
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Well the taking off the medals a mere seconds later is just the icing on the cake of English unsportsmanlike behavior. Really showed how the team/FA organization actually isn’t that far of its fans.

-booing other countries anthems
-booing the own team when protesting against racism
-not a allowing in danish fans in and the filling up with England fans instead of neutrals
-als pointer straight to a keepers face during penalties
-trying to break into stadium without tickets
-beating up Italian fans after the game
-racist insults against the own players after the game

But hey England got 30.000 bucks penalty for its fans in the danish games, Hungary got matches without fans as penalty. As usual the FA gets away lightly.

I would ban England from taking part as organizer/playing location during the next tournament.

Shameful really.
 
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Expos of 1969 said:
I see that the boorish and classless behaviour of some of the English fans was carried forward by the English players who removed their medals seconds after having received them. What a pitiful display of bad sportsmanship. And some call them heroes.
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How is it classless? They earned the medals if the feel like they didn’t deserve a medal for finishing second what difference does it make to anyone else?
This isn’t the olympics.
 
takao said:
Well the taking off the medals a mere seconds later is just the icing on the cake of English unsportsmanlike behavior. Really showed how the team/FA organization actually isn’t that far of its fans.

-booing other countries anthems
-booing the own team when protesting against racism
-not a allowing in danish fans in and the filling up with England fans instead of neutrals
-als pointer straight to a keepers face during penalties
-trying to break into stadium without tickets
-beating up Italian fans after the game
-racist insults against the own players after the game

But hey England got 30.000 bucks penalty for its fans in the danish games, Hungary got matches without fans as penalty. As usual the FA gets away lightly.

I would ban England from taking part as organizer/playing location during the next tournament.

Shameful really.
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Should they penalise the vast majority of fans over a minority of thugs that hijacked the event to cause trouble though? Why not make people accountable rather than penalise everybody?

I don’t think it’s unsportsmanlike to take off the medal you have earned. It’s the players medal after all. Unsportsmanlike would be to not shake hands with the opposition or applaud their win. I think the media are playing a major part in the reaction and it’s rather typical and familiar. The fact we are talking about things off the pitch here is testament to that and I think I need to do what I have done all tournament and avoid the tabloid press and reactions from social media and forums. It’s not good for anybody.
 
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danny842003 said:
removing a medal is indefensible?
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Doing so on TV seconds after it was presented to you and not having the sense or class to wait a bit and remove it in the dressing room is indefensible. Or if they felt they did not deserve the medal as you speculated, politely convey that to the presenter, shake his hand and move along. It is simply lack of class and the inability to do the correct thing. Not uncommon unfortunately in the wider society.
 
Italian Captain vs England Captain

Giorgio Chiellini:

U19Euro 2003

Euro 2020

Serie A 2011-2012

Serie A 2012-2013

Serie A 2013-2014

Serie A 2014-2015

Serie A 2015-2016

Serie A 2016-2017

Serie A 2017-2018

Serie A 2018-2019

Serie A 2019-2020

Coppa Italia 2014-2015

Coppa Italia 2015-2016

Coppa Italia 2016-2017

Coppa Italia 2017-2018

Coppa Italia 2020-2021

Super Coppa 2012, 2013, 2015, 2018, 2020



Harry Kane:
 
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Expos of 1969 said:
Doing so on TV seconds after it was presented to you and not having the sense or class to wait a bit and remove it in the dressing room is indefensible. Or if they felt they did not deserve the medal as you speculated, politely convey that to the presenter, shake his hand and move along. It is simply lack of class and the inability to do the correct thing. Not uncommon unfortunately in the wider society.
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Mate have a word with yourself seriously.
 
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edvj said:
Italian Captain vs England Captain

Giorgio Chiellini:

U19Euro 2003

Euro 2020

Serie A 2011-2012

Serie A 2012-2013

Serie A 2013-2014

Serie A 2014-2015

Serie A 2015-2016

Serie A 2016-2017

Serie A 2017-2018

Serie A 2018-2019

Serie A 2019-2020

Coppa Italia 2014-2015

Coppa Italia 2015-2016

Coppa Italia 2016-2017

Coppa Italia 2017-2018

Coppa Italia 2020-2021

Super Coppa 2012, 2013, 2015, 2018, 2020



Harry Kane:
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Also Giorgio Chiellini:
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www.telegraph.co.uk

Giorgio Chiellini gives Euro 2020 final his villainous masterpiece with Bukayo Saka foul

Italian centre back brought all of his dark arts experience to a violent shirt-pull on the England forward
www.telegraph.co.uk www.telegraph.co.uk
 
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edvj said:
www.express.co.uk

Scots pack park to celebrate England's Euro 2020 defeat 'Party time!'

SCOTTISH people took to the streets to gloat about England's Euro 2020 defeat against Italy in the Wembley final.
www.express.co.uk www.express.co.uk
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The irony completely missed one would assume by most of them. Probably around the same IQ level as the thugs that hijacked the tournament to fight fans of the same team they wore shirts from. Football does attract all classes though.

This all really is a rather ugly end to such a great tournament. The maturity level of those causing violence and those doing their best to stoke up negativity online is all rather appalling.
 
The-Real-Deal82 said:
The irony completely missed one would assume by most of them. Probably around the same IQ level as the thugs that hijacked the tournament to fight fans of the same team they wore shirts from. Football does attract all classes though.

This all really is a rather ugly end to such a great tournament. The maturity level of those causing violence and those doing their best to stoke up negativity online is all rather appalling.
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It seems you take issue with football fans in one country celebrating the victory of a team from another country and the defeat of a team from a third country. No violence mentioned, just celebrating in Glasgow.
 
Expos of 1969 said:
It seems you take issue with football fans in one country celebrating the victory of a team from another country and the defeat of a team from a third country. No violence mentioned, just celebrating in Glasgow.
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Violence is a just situation normal in Glasgow. I lived there trust me.
 
Expos of 1969 said:
It seems you take issue with football fans in one country celebrating the victory of a team from another country and the defeat of a team from a third country. No violence mentioned, just celebrating in Glasgow.
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Not at all but it’s done because a lot of Scots hate the English because it’s cultural, much like it is here in Wales. There wouldn’t have been a celebration in Glasgow if Italy had beaten Denmark in the final. Hampden Park was like a ghost town once Scotland failed to get out of the group stage and it was commented on that when Sweden vs Ukraine lacked any local atmosphere at all. Now the party is back in town because it’s a dig at England.

I’m just glad I support all home nations and am happy to condemn this awful sectarian attitude we often see all too often.
 
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The-Real-Deal82 said:
Not at all but it’s done because a lot of Scots hate the English because it’s cultural, much like it is here in Wales. There wouldn’t have been a celebration in Glasgow if Italy had beaten Denmark in the final. Hampden Park was like a ghost town once Scotland failed to get out of the group stage and it was commented on that when Sweden vs Ukraine lacked any local atmosphere at all. Now the party is back in town because it’s a dig at England.

I’m just glad I support all home nations and am happy to condemn this awful sectarian attitude we often see all too often.
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Happens in Finland and Sweden when they play hockey or football. Fortunately it does not usually lead to the same level of violence seen in the UK.
 
Expos of 1969 said:
Happens in Finland and Sweden when they play hockey or football. Fortunately it does not usually lead to the same level of violence seen in the UK.
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That’s good. Thankfully the violence here was contained and no widespread across the country which is a relief. It’s only a game after all and some idiots do use it as an excuse for violence.

There should be 8 weeks in prison and a £10k fine for everybody identified on the footage from around Wembley IMO. How dare they portray the vast majority of real fans like that to the rest of the world.
 
United's first preseason friendly kicks off in... uh... six days!? Going to be a lot of youth players facing off against Derby County, I suppose.
 
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Now that CONCACAF has its own Nation's League competition, they should ditch the Gold Cup (CONCACAF's biannual sort-of version of the Euros). It was always a slightly pointless competition and is now even more so. What does anybody gain with USA clobbering Martinique, for example? MLS teams lose some of their best players to international duty and then they ride the bench for the national team or, worse, come back injured.
 
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