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I came here to complain about David De Gea and how he's not a top keeper anymore and United have a big decision to make, but here I am watching Alisson's clown show against City — unbelievable.

I think this weekend's results have pretty clearly handed the title to City. United really needed all three against Everton yesterday, but they're just not there yet in terms of mentality or talent, fair enough.
 
Excruciating. Really disheartening to watch.

And, realistically, as the title is almost certainly going to Manchester this season, probably the blue half, can we really call this an "open" league campaign any more? I guess there is still a contest of CL places, and best of luck to West am/Leicester on that front especially.
 
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I came here to complain about David De Gea and how he's not a top keeper anymore and United have a big decision to make, but here I am watching Alisson's clown show against City — unbelievable.

I think this weekend's results have pretty clearly handed the title to City. United really needed all three against Everton yesterday, but they're just not there yet in terms of mentality or talent, fair enough.
I think there is a long way to go yet. In the title challenge I mean.
 
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Well when your keeper is doing the assists for the opposition it’s hard to win games.
Eh, this was a league-winning squad and you don't turn into a crap team overnight. Fatigue and injuries plus COVID have doomed the season. Klopp's system requires energy and fitness. City are the richest team with the deepest squad. On paper they should be the favorites to win the season, especially if you factor in Liverpool's drop-off in form started a year ago now.

Man Utd are still a team of individuals, less than the sum of their parts, though they are probably the only other team with a shot now. The Frank Lampard experiment was ultimately a failure. Arsenal are still trying to find their feet post-Wenger, and Spurs are a past-it Mourinho team dependent on one player. Leicester are also too dependent on one player and Everton are Everton. Everyone else has too shallow a squad.

That pretty much just leaves Man City. Not guaranteed, I agree, but looking very likely now. Liverpool still have a decent chance in Europe if they can find form, and of course can also play the role of spoiler in the league.

BUT the 2021 MLS season starts up next month (the league and players' union just finalized a CBA) so hurrah!
 
I thought it would be interesting to see what the table looked like last year compared to this at the same stage.
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Eh, this was a league-winning squad and you don't turn into a crap team overnight. Fatigue and injuries plus COVID have doomed the season. Klopp's system requires energy and fitness. City are the richest team with the deepest squad. On paper they should be the favorites to win the season, especially if you factor in Liverpool's drop-off in form started a year ago now.

Man Utd are still a team of individuals, less than the sum of their parts, though they are probably the only other team with a shot now. The Frank Lampard experiment was ultimately a failure. Arsenal are still trying to find their feet post-Wenger, and Spurs are a past-it Mourinho team dependent on one player. Leicester are also too dependent on one player and Everton are Everton. Everyone else has too shallow a squad.

That pretty much just leaves Man City. Not guaranteed, I agree, but looking very likely now. Liverpool still have a decent chance in Europe if they can find form, and of course can also play the role of spoiler in the league.

BUT the 2021 MLS season starts up next month (the league and players' union just finalized a CBA) so hurrah!

And - most of the commentary seems to miss this point - Liverpool really miss Virgil van Dijk.

Actually, I would argue that he was the linchpin of the team when it was challenging for trophies and titles, and while his absence is less "visible" than are those of either Vardy or Kane for their respective teams, the role he plays for Liverpool is of - at least - equal importance.
 
And - most of the commentary seems to miss this point - Liverpool really miss Virgil van Dijk.

Actually, I would argue that he was the linchpin of the team when it was challenging for trophies and titles, and while his absence is less "visible" than are those of either Vardy or Kane for their respective teams, the role he plays for Liverpool is of - at least - equal importance.
Actually what those two tables show is how consistent Arsenal and Leicester are. Third and tenth two years running.
 
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And - most of the commentary seems to miss this point - Liverpool really miss Virgil van Dijk.

Actually, I would argue that he was the linchpin of the team when it was challenging for trophies and titles, and while his absence is less "visible" than are those of either Vardy or Kane for their respective teams, the role he plays for Liverpool is of - at least - equal importance.

Virgil van Dijk is the biggest single loss, but this is a team sport and losing the entire starting roster of central defenders would be fatal to ANY league campaign.

It's rock bottom for the squad at the moment, but there are a lot of games left to play and Klopp needs to pick up the pieces. Some players just need rest though, and they are not going to get it.
 
I thought from early in the match given how much possession they had we were going to get thrashed.

No.

Manchester United are still more a collection of separate parts, some of them very accomplished, rather than a team, seamlessly knitted together.

There are days when a team, or eleven individuals wearing the same shirt, are never going to score, and wouldn't or couldn't score - no matter how talented, or how gifted they are, or how many chances they have - if they played until Doomsday.
 
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It's been a while since i've posted in this thread, However nothing has changed with Ipswich's fortunes.

We won at the weekend, and actually played well which is the first time we've played well in a number of months (yep months!). However Lambert changed the team up unnecessarily last night for our match against Peterborough and surprise surprise, we were awful and deservedly lost.

Our record this season against the top 7 teams is played 9, lost 9. Simply not good enough for a team going for promotion.

Paul Lambert MUST go if we have any hope of saving our season.
 
One of those unexpected classics that the FA Cup sometimes throws up (though hardly ever in the final, unfortunately), with Everton eventually, and finally, victorious by five goals to four.
...an exciting contest between two teams, both of which are desperate for a trophy - and neither of which has much realistic chance of winning one. It's going to Manchester of course, though I'd love to be wrong and see Leicester or Everton squeak in there. For Everton in particular it would validate their efforts to snag Ancelotti.
 
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...an exciting contest between two teams, both of which are desperate for a trophy - and neither of which has much realistic chance of winning one. It's going to Manchester of course, though I'd love to be wrong and see Leicester or Everton squeak in there. For Everton in particular it would validate their efforts to snag Ancelotti.

Agreed.

Would love to see the FA Cup go to either Everton or Leicester.
 
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