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The 2022-2023 Football Thread
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We offered him £200k a week, so I’m sure he’s not going to struggle with any option.
I wouldn't wish it on anyone, for footballing purposes, but Nathan Jones for the post match interviews and barmy comments in the press would be outstanding for a few weeks.
Of course, you'd then have to completely redesign your strategy for remaining in the league after sacking him, but boy, that would be a fun few weeks to begin with.
I see Saints and Swans are going to have some sort of legal stoush now over the appointment of Russell Martin.
Saints waited for official relegation confirmation, which apparently reduced the compensation amount payable, which Swansea see as bad faith and put them out of pocket around $400k.
As a Saints fan I understand why they did it and see it as good business (despite Martin not being a manager I have much to be excited about), however I can also see how Swansea could feel aggrieved.
Saints waited for official relegation confirmation, which apparently reduced the compensation amount payable, which Swansea see as bad faith and put them out of pocket around $400k.
As a Saints fan I understand why they did it and see it as good business (despite Martin not being a manager I have much to be excited about), however I can also see how Swansea could feel aggrieved.
Some will, just as some turned down a chance to play with Manchester United when Sir Alex managed the club.
Fair enough.
We shall see.
Some will.
Yes, but it is still not London.
There will always be players that will just not play for a specific club, due to their own reasons (such as a childhood dislike of a certain club etc).
It seems bonkers when there's a lot of money on the line, but some simply won't budge (personally, I'd disown my son if he played for Portsmouth).
Well, if memory serves, Alan Shearer turned down an offer to head to Manchester United, and I believe that Harry Kane had made it clear - earlier in his career - that some clubs would never capture his signature.
I used to play 5 a side (strictly amateur!). This kid used to come along who was a class above everyone else. He was offered trials at Sunderland but turned them down being from Newcastle and a Newcastle supporter. We tried to council him against it.
He never made it anywhere in the end.
He never made it anywhere in the end.
Why would Swansea or anyone else for that matter see it as 'bad faith'? If Swansea was expecting Southampton to come calling before the end of the season whilst still a PL team then they are deluded. I am assuming this is where the 'bad faith' comes in, yes? in that if Martin moved to a PL team the money Swansea would get would be a lot higher than if he went to a championship team.
One of the biggest U turns was Paul Gascoigne going from Newcastle to Man United but poached by Spurs. He was all set to sign then Spurs came in at the very last minute with a better offer, basically offering to buy his parents a house and he accepted lol
This is from an old Radio Times article:
Gosh.
That sounds almost innocent, doesn't it?
To be quite candid, I've never been a much of a fan of Paul Gascoigne the human being, but one cannot also help feeling a sharp stab of almost abject pity when contemplating him, and his life, and his life choices.
You got it.
The Swans seem to feel that Saints should have paid more when they were a Prem team, but as they waited for the official drop at the end of the season before tabling a formal offer, there was a reduction in compensation (something to do with rules around the fact that poaching a Football League coach for a Prem Team deserves more than from a fellow Football League club).
Saints fans see it as good business (monetarily) and Swans fans see it as bad faith.
It is what it is. We'll lose a ton of money on players when we sell this summer, as they are now Championship players. What goes around comes around.
One of the few Scottish managers I can actually recall.
Strachan being the other.
Seemed incredibly well respected and liked among the footballing world.
The bidding war has started
City submit £90m bid for Rice (80+10) tonight. Compared to Arsenal's prior £90m (75m+15m)
Arsenal expected to submit a 3rd and possibly final bid. At which point i'm guessing City will flex their muscle to seal the dal
City submit £90m bid for Rice (80+10) tonight. Compared to Arsenal's prior £90m (75m+15m)
Arsenal expected to submit a 3rd and possibly final bid. At which point i'm guessing City will flex their muscle to seal the dal
Agree on Ince.
And I think that fans ought to have no role in selecting a manager; unfortunately, all too often, their view tends to be rather short-term.
The higher it goes the better. If we are to lose our star player, might as well make the greedy six pay for them.
I think it is just sour grapes on Swansea's part and they are just looking for excuses where there is none. Southampton had a manager in place, albeit a kind of temporary one because it was the first team coach that stepped in and was given the job until the end of the season. With that said, it is very bad form for a club to make a formal offer for a replacement manager whilst a club has a 'sitting' manager (someone in that position already). It is common courtesy to wait for the managers contract to officially come to an end before formal negotiations start.
Southampton, as with any club have a right to sound out potential manager replacements before the contract ends of the clubs current manager but that does not mean the club losing their manager is tied down to the club taking the manager, thus trying to claim 'talks started whilst they were a PL club therefore compensation should be at the higher level'. Nope Swansea and any other club thinking the same, it does not work like that. I know people are saying it is good business on Southampton's part but in my opinion, Southampton had a manager in place and the contract was to end at the end of the season. Formal talks could only start once the contract ended because it would have been very disrespectful to the 'sitting' manager to have the club hold formal talks whilst he was still in the job. It is just something clubs do not do.
And what about Rice, doesn't he get a say? or does the club treat him like a piece of meat to be treated however the club decides?
Well for starters, there is the very public admission in all the national papers from Rice that he wanted to move to Arsenal when Arsenal came calling and it had been that way for ages. Rice even talked about being happy to stay in London but instead of West Ham sealing the deal with Arsenal, they have dragged it out to allow other teams to put their interest in. Now The club is treating him like a piece of meat, trying to trade him off to the highest bidder whilst the club rubs their hands with glee at the prospect of the large amounts of money they will get for him.
This tells me Rice is not having a say in it at all because if he did, he would be an Arsenal player by now.
Wrong. We’ve said all along what our valuation is. Arsenal have tried to get him below that. Not West Ham’s fault. If they had come up with £100 million plus a player the deal would have been done by now. We are under no obligation to accept a low price.
As for Rice’s desire to go to Arsenal, that was before City showed an interest. Not saying he wants City over Arsenal (as none of us know), just that Arsenal was the best option available at the time.