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The 2022-2023 Football Thread

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I supported West Ham as my godfather used to take me as a boy. Not quite the glory boys off 66, but not too long after. It was also my most local division one club.
In those days it was standing on the terrace and the chants were not very PC. Especially if Spurs were at our place! As a young boy I didn’t really understand half what they were singing.
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everyone hated the spurs back then
something about white heart lane I guess

in 2015 while living in Madison WI I frequented named the Coopers tavern
one frigid Saturday, I went in wearing my 'Blue" attire before the second game at 9AM there
a slew of arsenal supports were at the bar
I asked or really congratulate them on a close narrow win earlier (15min) that day
no one even looked at me or cared I existed
they were in their early 20's and very pompous.

I still never held arsenal accountable for that.
 
Best defence won. Howe came for a point and got it.

Arsenal need an alternative option in attack. Especially because teams will start using this blueprint against them.

Meanwhile Bournemouth are helping Utd with their goal difference
 
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A nil all draw against Newcastle (who defended superbly, and time-wasted with a truly impressive creativity).

Okay: We were probably the better team, and were able to go the distance against a state-funded team, and never surrendered or wilted, but, but, children, unfortunately, this - having to play, contend with, defeat, state owned (and financed) teams - is the way of the future in football: For Newcastle will only get better.

As recently as the 1990s, and the millennium, teams (well, their owners) thought that building (or inheriting) entirely new stadia, or stadia that had been renovated with an increased capacity in mind, (nd many teams invested time and money in such enterprises) was the way forward.

Then, we had teams owned, or purchased, by oligarchs, or investment funds, some of who appeared to have had bottomless purses.

And now, it would seem that we are entering the era of state owned, and state-funded, teams.
 
daneoni said:
Best defence won. Howe came for a point and got it.
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Seriously frustrating watch for the Gooners, but probably the right result. I'd have to see the handball more, but it was VAR reviewed, so one can only shrug one's shoulders.

In a few years, when Newcastle become the next Man City and have Mbappe banging them in week in and week out, the idea of Eddie Howe scrapping for a draw at the Emirates will sound positively quaint.
 
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Newcastle turning into a problem team for Arsenal. Dented their top 4 hopes and last team to stop them scoring. Arguably should'v had a penalty for Burn on Gabriel. The handball one I'm not sold. Maybe that game will force them to get Mudryk in.

That draw will be a psychological boost for City

Apart from that it was a high-level match and neither team did much wrong. I think Newcastle will get top 4 if they keep their players fit. Not having European distraction massively helps their cause.

I dont think Chelsea or Liverpool have enough. Spurs are disjointed and toxic.

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Slowly improving that goal difference. Hopefully the maulings by Brentford and city don't cost Utd a UCL spot in the end. It's going to be a tight race, even though Chelsea, Pool and Spurs look adrift right now.

Midfield is the crux of Liverpool's problem — they didn't refresh that group quickly enough, and their younger players aren't really good enough. I mean, that was United's problem for the past few years and it was resolutely ignored by Ed Woodward. Plug in a guy like Casemiro, and all of a sudden your team looks a lot more solid in the middle of the pitch and your defense isn't under constant pressure.
 
How the hell is this not a penalty?

If it was Man United or Liverpool they would have awarded penalty without even watching a replay.

 
MBAir2010 said:
Probably the ball was no where near the player in?,?
they alway let this argie barge play on.
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Shirt-pulling is a foul. Martin Skrtel used to get away with that for Liverpool all the time back in the pre-VAR era. When people ask why players still bother doing it in these days...well, this is an example of why.

Newcastle just about earned their draw, but if Arsenal had won it on a PK Newcastle would look silly complaining after all the rough-housing and time-wasting; they rode the line (and crossed it).
 
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Lord Blackadder said:
Shirt-pulling is a foul. Martin Skrtel used to get away with that for Liverpool all the time back in the pre-VAR era. When people ask why players still bother doing it in these days...well, this is an example of why.

Newcastle just about earned their draw, but if Arsenal had won it on a PK Newcastle would look silly complaining after all the rough-housing and time-wasting; they rode the line (and crossed it).
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I can't figure VARs out, and neither can the VARs
 
Sal09 said:
2 points dropped.

We had no to come off the bench and create something.
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Arsenal have been defeated once - so far - this season, and have been at the top of the table since not long after the start of the season; there is no way that we shall be able to stroll through the entire season securing only victories.

At the start of the season - and I read several of those (usually useless) forecasts - most commentators didn't even have us securing a CL place - we were have been delighted but flabbergasted at how the season has played out so far.

I don't see it as points dropped: We didn't concede a goal, we didn't lose the game, and we played a canny, crafty, extraordinarily well-funded (and, in fairness, well-coached) team, a team that are prepared to win ugly, with guile, and foul, and time-wasting.

Sal09 said:
It aint easy playing against 12.
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No.

This is too easy a response; there have been games where we rode our luck, or things broke for us, or 50/50 decisions went our way (as tends to happen with successful teams); I don't blame the ref.

Newcastle - playing ugly - had worked out a successful way to throttle us, and - now, for the first time since the injury - this is where we may well have missed the magic of Gabriel Jesus, or his capacity to change, or influence, or transform, a game.
 
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Seems Mudryk might be heading to Chelsea since Shaktar want every last penny for him. And Chelsea, as always, are willing to pay mug money.

Also VVD's injury is looking like a bad one.
 
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