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what if they have a large vinyl and cd collection with dedicated speakers like me? :p
Then they would know that the stereo speakers on a iPhone would never come close to those dedicated speaker 😇

I trust that the speakers on the regular 17 and Pro are better. But let's not pretend it's proper stereo. A single (thus mono) HomePod most probably sounds better than any iPhone "stereo speaker" to date.
 
I am not going to be doing a graphic intensive workflow for 20+ minutes all the time
Absolutely! People getting their knickers in a twist because the Air doesn’t sustain performance as well under an extreme performance stress test is peak hyperbole. I’ve never run one of these tests nor do I ever do anything on my iPhone that would come close to it.
 
I know this is too techy to hope for, but I would be interested in a simple measured volume comparison between the Air's one speaker and the Pro's two. My only use would be occasional speaker phone call anyway.
 
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Of course the speaker stinks. The earpiece speaker is tiny. And some of you were legit trying to tell me that Apple has the magic to make it sound good. 😆

If you don’t care, that’s fine. But most people take advantage of the stereo speakers on an iPhone. I have no idea why Apple couldn’t offer stereo speakers when the S25 Edge has them. It’s an enormous flaw for this device. Obviously they will remedy this with future Air editions.
 
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Of course the speaker stinks. The earpiece speaker is tiny. And some of you were legit trying to tell me that Apple has the magic to make it sound good. 😆

If you don’t care, that’s fine. But most people take advantage of the stereo speakers on an iPhone. I have no idea why Apple couldn’t offer stereo speakers when the S25 Edge has them. It’s an enormous flaw for this device. Obviously they will remedy this with future Air editions.
The eSIM only is a far bigger flaw than the mono speaker imo.
 
It's starting to feel like reviewers are literally searching with a fine tooth comb for things to nitpick the iPhone Air over. The speaker? I can't honestly remember any reviews in the past of recent iPhone lines where the speaker quality was even mentioned. Yet now the sky is falling!

It's like people are actually trying to convince you that AirPods (earbuds) don't exist. And as for listening to a podcast in the shower, maybe focus on bathing and getting out of the shower as quickly as you can instead of trying to work in a 10 minute podcast wasting water.

Or take a relaxing bath if it's that important for you to hear what Alex Jones is ranting about this morning.

It's like everybody has jumped on the crazy train because Apple went against the normal steady grain of recent predictable iPhone launches.
Because for nine years we have had stereo speakers. Once you remove a speaker, it’s a big deal.
 
Yeah, I am really hoping that speaker sound is not that bad. I know for some time the iPhone 1 speaker. I don't know what version they added the second speaker. Hey, I asked ChatGPT and it said the second speaker was added on the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus in 2016.
 
I seriously find it so fascinating how many people seem to utilize the speakers on their phone, do these people also just use their macbook or mac mini speaker? or worse, use their TVs built in speakers 😲?

Maybe I am the weird one but if I am consuming any kind of content I am going to have a pair of dedicated speakers, or headphones so that I can actually enjoy it.
 
I’m glad Apple gives us choices. The Air is for people who want an amazing looking phone in a thin, lightweight form factor without many compromises.
Sorry but there are tons of compromises. The battery is going to get more wear than a normal battery so battery life might be ok now, but in a year or 2? Camera is massively compromised. So there’s 3 compromises right there.
 
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Sorry but there are tons of compromises. The battery is going to get more wear than a normal battery so battery life might be ok now, but in a year or 2? Camera is massively compromised. So there’s 3 compromises right there.
What do you mean when you say the battery is going to get more wear than a normal battery?
 
I shouldn't be surprised at how many people are defending a tiny mono speaker in a $1,000 near flagship phone just because it's Apple releasing it. I use the speakers on my phone all the time. I don't do critical listening with it, but I watch plenty of videos and listen to podcasts using the speakers. This would be a massive downgrade for me.
 
I wonder which reviewer will take a more balanced, nuanced, and realistic approach rather than stress testing each version as if your a hardcore gamer in relation to benchmarks.

And this is what it's all about. There's an entire ecosystem of gamer bros doing tech device reviews and their whole schtick seems to be "if it's not capable of running the most graphically intensive PC games, while sounding like it has surround sound speakers, and a battery that will last four days, it's a fail." The video of a guy listening to music on his phone in this thread as he compares two phones is hilarious. Listening to music? Get a bluetooth speaker, or earphones. Worrying about music quality from any phone is a fool's errand. If the sound is good enough for facetiming and social media, it's good enough. No one is going to enjoy the room filling sound and rich stereo separation of two iPhone speakers placed 6" apart because there isn't any.

The tech reviewers who actually test phones the way most people use phones, in real-world usage, would likely spend less time complaining about the Air's limits than they would the Pro Max's overkill for most consumers.

The complaint at the heart of this thread is a non-issue, but it makes for good clickbait and that's what these reviewers need, it's their lifeblood.
 
Most of the reviews suggest that it's "fine." Not great, not really even "good," but fine.

Yes, the built in speakers on the Base/Pro models sound better. If one cares about that, don't buy the Air.


This reviewer has a more positive take:



The speaker provides a surprising range. During voice calls, the earpiece creates crystal-clear audio that is bright and free from background noise. Those I spoke to in test calls said I sounded like I was in the same room. The earpiece gets up to a loud 77dB, which is more than enough to hear calls despite environmental noise. The speakerphone generates a bit more oomph at about 88dB, though it starts to crackle a bit from distortion if you set it all the way up.

I listened to our test track, The Knife's "Silent Shout," and came away impressed with the experience. This track has a thumpy bass line audible from the Air despite the layers of other instruments on top. At its peak, the song reached 89dB with the volume cranked. Again, I heard some distortion with the volume at this level, but the Air produces enough power to push sound into a mid-sized room.

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You get stereo sound and more volume from the iPhone 17. The 17's pair of speakers also offers clear, loud sound. I'd call the quality equivalent between the two, with the iPhone 17 able to generate a bit more audio power.
 
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