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Who's the fool who wrote "The Beat Goes On" is a reference to the Beatles? What embarrassingly clueless gibberish.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beat_Goes_On
"Spring is here and Leeds play Chelsea tomorrow and Ringo and John and George and Paul are alive and well and full of hope. The world is still spinning and so are we and so are you. When the spinning stops — that'll be the time to worry, not before. Until then, the Beatles are alive and well and the beat goes on, the beat goes on.

— Final Beatles press release, April 10, 1970"

http://purplelagoon.org/Beatles/

It's a theory however, but a sight better than Sonny & freakin' Cher.
 
Who's the fool who wrote "The Beat Goes On" is a reference to the Beatles? What embarrassingly clueless gibberish.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beat_Goes_On

Thanks for the arrogance. This has been well explained in several threads, including this one, already. I'd say it's typical Apple cleverness and subtelty. I suppose you'd have gotten it right off if they'd used "I Want to Hold Your Hand" or "Come Together" as the tag line...

Read this then you can go back to that infallible source of all human knowledge, wikipedia :rolleyes:
 
The "fools" would be The Beatles themselves...

"Spring is here and Leeds play Chelsea tomorrow and Ringo and John and George and Paul are alive and well and full of hope. The world is still spinning and so are we and so are you. When the spinning stops — that'll be the time to worry, not before. Until then, the Beatles are alive and well and the beat goes on, the beat goes on.

— Final Beatles press release, April 10, 1970"

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It's a theory however, but a sight better than Sonny & freakin' Cher.


ROFL... pure pwnage.... I tried to look before for a press release like that but I couldn't find one, cheers for putting it up.
 
What if its not a nano?

No one seems to be thinking that it might be a full sized ipod with flash
Consider something with the dimensions 3 inch H x 4 inch W x .2 inch D or so.

That would give it room for say a 2.6 inch W x 1.5" H just a tad shy of true 16:9 screen ratio. That could give you a 416x240 screen at 160ppi, which is the same screen density as the iphone.

That's my guess... 16GB of flash to go with it. :)

Or it could be nonflash and have the normal ipod depth. ( .4 inches )

There's no way this is a nano IMHO. Well not at least in its current incarnation. They might call this the new nano video or something, but I think my dimensions sound more reasonable.

Just putting my $0.02 in just incase I'm right and I cam come back and brag. :)
 
That iPod Freestyle has got to be a fake. That's utterly ridiculous.

That is the ugliest fake i've ever seen. My gut reaction was, I don't want it." All the tech in the world won't save it if its that ugly. I just can't buy it. I'd be embarrassed. Really.
 
i live about 10 min away from my local apple store i have about $450.00 saved right now i am gonna get another hundred and be on my way to haveing one when they come out. even if i have to cut some one's arm off. i will deff be in line the day it comes out. i can't wate i knew the rumors were true. i'm gonna have huge bragging right fo sho :cool:
 
The new iPod will have a better screen than the iPhone.

That way, people like me, who want the iPod primarily for watching movies, but would REALLY REALLY like Wi-Fi and Safari, won't say "Well, since the iPod has no wireless connectivity, i'll just go with the iPhone".

I really think this would be the best way for Apple to deal with this situation. By giving the iPod a better screen than the iPhone, they are stating clearly that the iPod is the Media player, and the iPhone is the phone.
 
WiFi technology is useless without being in proximity of a network. There's two parts: Part A, the WiFi technology and Part B, a network close enough to access. Both have to be present or who gives a damn -- What's great about the iPhone is that AT&T (theoretically) provides at no additional charge (!) UNLIMITED (!) email/web. Of course, this scenario is based entirely on AT&T's ability to deliver the internet to the device.

I don't believe an iPod with WiFi is going to "make those on the fence buy the iPod instead of the iPhone". And here's why:

The iPhone is a PHONE. The iPod is not a PHONE. If someone is in the market for a phone and they're on the fence, it's not because of a music player that occasionally has access to email and the internet if they happen to be in just the right spot. It's because of (a) cost of the iPhone; (b) cost of the AT&T service; (c) the service provider being AT&T; (d) limitations of the iPhone itself; (e) the competitions' great phones; (e) the competitions' great service; (f) the competitions' great pricing; (g) an expensive fee for breaking a current contract -- or a combination of two or more of these things.

What we know is that the iPhone is getting rave reviews on most every aspect. Most believe that the pricing is great and starting at $59.99*, I have to agree. If there's anything that's keeping people from buying the iPhone it's AT&T's coverage and service.

Is it the money? Well, considering your scenario, it's not money, because the would-be buyer has money for either the hardware: the iPhone or the iPod. Also, since the service contract is pretty good and right in line with most other providers and since we've kind of established that this person is in the market for a phone, it's really not an issue about money for the service.

You spoke of untold millions that AT&T and the lost revenue lost to Apple and their products? Honestly, who cares besides AT&T and their stockholders? Apple has a contract with them that prohibits them to sell the iPhone (and more likely than not, any other type of phone either) to another telephone company. Certainly, it shouldn't include a portable device that gives intermittent access to the internet. Apple already sells those: they're called laptops. Considering the iPod will run OS X, there's no reason that they won't load as much technology as they can into these things, and AT&T darn well knows this. They just care about the phone part.

And so do the fence-sitters.

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The following quote is from a article written by John Gruber. It details an OS X-based iPod and is an awesome read. Highly recommended...



* 450 weekly minutes •*Unlimited email & web • Built-in visual voicemail • 200 texts • 5000 nights & weekend minutes • Rollover minutes • Unlimited mobile to mobile


sorry bud, i just think a wifi iPod will hurt iPhone sales. This has nothing to do with what makes apple more money. Maybe having a wifi iPod will increase Apple's revenue, more so than not having an wifi iPod. I just know that:

WIFI iPod will dip into iPhone sales.

Proof:

-If Apple releases a wifi iPod, I won't buy an iPhone.
-If Apple doesn't release a wifi iPod, I will buy an iPhone.

therefore, WifI iPod dips into iPhone sales.

I can't imagine a scenario wherein a wifi ipod boosts iphone sales...that doesn't make any logical sense whatsoever...unless...

there is someone out there willing to say, honestly, that:

-If Apple releases a wifi iPod, THEN i will buy an iPhone.
-If Apple doesn't release a wifi iPod, THEN i won't buy an iPhone.

Take all the people that will buy an iphone if the new ipod does not have wifi, subtract them from the people that feel the opposite, and you have your total number of iPhones not sold (or xtras sold) thanks to the WIFI iPod. so far, we're at (1-0=1).

You just can't seem to accept that this could be, in any shape or form, a factor now can you? Hehe...it's a basic truth. I feel how I feel, and you aren't going to change that.
 
So the beat is half dead?

"Spring is here and Leeds play Chelsea tomorrow and Ringo and John and George and Paul are alive and well and full of hope. The world is still spinning and so are we and so are you. When the spinning stops — that'll be the time to worry, not before. Until then, the Beatles are alive and well and the beat goes on, the beat goes on.

— Final Beatles press release, April 10, 1970"

http://purplelagoon.org/Beatles/

It's a theory however, but a sight better than Sonny & freakin' Cher.

Last time I looked, George and Paul were not alive and I can't see Leeds playing Chelsea anytime soon (cup ties omitted):confused:
 
Maybe they'll move away from all things 'i' and move back to 'power'?
In this case the new one will be called PowerPod or PowerPod Peta.

Who knows?

Steve Jobs, of course!
Yes, but Steve said not that long ago that they were done with Power. ;)
 
sorry bud, i just think a wifi iPod will hurt iPhone sales. This has nothing to do with what makes apple more money. Maybe having a wifi iPod will increase Apple's revenue, more so than not having an wifi iPod. I just know that:

WIFI iPod will dip into iPhone sales.

Proof:

-If Apple releases a wifi iPod, I won't buy an iPhone.
-If Apple doesn't release a wifi iPod, I will buy an iPhone.

therefore, WifI iPod dips into iPhone sales.

I can't imagine a scenario wherein a wifi ipod boosts iphone sales...that doesn't make any logical sense whatsoever...unless...

there is someone out there willing to say, honestly, that:

-If Apple releases a wifi iPod, THEN i will buy an iPhone.
-If Apple doesn't release a wifi iPod, THEN i won't buy an iPhone.

Take all the people that will buy an iphone if the new ipod does not have wifi, subtract them from the people that feel the opposite, and you have your total number of iPhones not sold (or xtras sold) thanks to the WIFI iPod. so far, we're at (1-0=1).

You just can't seem to accept that this could be, in any shape or form, a factor now can you? Hehe...it's a basic truth. I feel how I feel, and you aren't going to change that.
The iPhone/iPod landscape is getting a bit muddied and there is no doubt that the iPhone cannibalizes sales of iPods, but the question is *by how much*. It's okay for the iPhone, which is more expensive than any iPod both to own and to operate, to cannibalize some of the iPod market. However, there is still room for the two to remain differentiated. Some factors:

1. Millions of people are tied to Verizon, Sprint, T-Mobile, and other wireless carriers. They will not buy an iPhone and the iPhone does NOT cannibalize the iPod market from this segment. Yet others simply don't like AT&T and won't switch (anytime soon).

2. There are others who are waiting for iPhone 2 with G3, MMS, Exchange Support, Video Camera, GPS, and the kitchen sink. The iPhone again does not cannibalize the iPod market from this segment.

3. The iPod is sold in MANY more countries than the iPhone (which is currently sold in one). The iPhone again does not cannibalilze the iPod market from the international segment.

4. The iPhone is limited to 8GB. Newer iPods might double the flash capacity and maybe even double the hard disk capacity of existing models. Even iPhone owners might justify the purchase of a 120GB or 160GB iPod.

5. The iPhone starts at $500 and incurs a minimum monthly charge of $60. The iPod starts at $80 and incurs a monthly charge of $0 for eternity. You can buy one for yourself, your friends, your family.
 
The new iPod will have a better screen than the iPhone.

That way, people like me, who want the iPod primarily for watching movies, but would REALLY REALLY like Wi-Fi and Safari, won't say "Well, since the iPod has no wireless connectivity, i'll just go with the iPhone".

I really think this would be the best way for Apple to deal with this situation. By giving the iPod a better screen than the iPhone, they are stating clearly that the iPod is the Media player, and the iPhone is the phone.

IMO the iPhone screen is perfect. It makes the iPod to be something between a DAP & PMP. Big enough to watch small clips and simpsons episodes on, but still compact enough to carry in the pocket without any discomfort. Music first, video second.
 
Bastaaaa

So tired of cannibalizing this and that bull****s.
Apple will sell an iPod touch or wathever it calls it, similar to the iphone and with no phone, but with hard drive.
Their market is the music player not the phones.
They won't make their music player crappier only because they have a phone on the market.
We'll see a fully featured phone with all the latest goodies.

Do you think Steve really cares about phones?
 
sorry bud, i just think a wifi iPod will hurt iPhone sales. This has nothing to do with what makes apple more money. Maybe having a wifi iPod will increase Apple's revenue, more so than not having an wifi iPod. I just know that:

WIFI iPod will dip into iPhone sales.

Proof:

-If Apple releases a wifi iPod, I won't buy an iPhone.
-If Apple doesn't release a wifi iPod, I will buy an iPhone.


The iPhone is at the moment only for sell in one single country while the iPod is sold world wide. The iPhone is a tiny little midget compared with the iPod on the big scale. The iPod has made Apple the company it is today.

Further more Steve has said that the phone industry is Apple's third business after iPods so he doesn't care too much for the iPhone.

Regardless of which one you buy Apple will be a winner and profit. :apple::apple::apple: Don't forget that an iPod with WiFi might have wireless media capabilities the iPhone doesn't have.
 
Perhaps the new iPod will use Kleer http://www.kleer.com/ instead of Bluetooth for wireless headphones.

Oh yes, they would use a proprietary technology that no-one else uses. THAT makes a lot of sense!

Why it could be:
1. Their US office is in Cupertino. (this is where Apple is)

Nokia and KONE have their headquarters right next to each other. OMG, they MUST be working together on something!

2. Apple has said Bluetooth means both the iPod and headphones would have to be recharged regularly

Yes it would. So?

3. Kleer gives 10x the battery life of Bluetooth.

And no-one is using it.

4. Kleer has been suspiciously quiet with press releases this year.

Maybe that's because no-one is using their tech?

5. Kleer is lossless transmission.

So we could transmit lossy music losslessly to the headphone?

As to "And the beat goes on..." being a Sonny & Cher-reference... By that logic, it could just as well be a reference to Scooter
 
Do you think Steve really cares about phones?

Considering he just released the most hyped phone ever, this being a multi-million investion for Apple and a huge move for the whole industry - i would dare to say "yeah, he does care".
But this could just be my imagination.
 
The "Beat goes on" what can that possibly be.

iPacemaker!!!!

5 years battery time and non-user replaceable

549px-Pacemaker_GuidantMeridianSR.jpg
 
I think that the top of the range iPod will have wi-fi, along with the iPhone style Mac OS X and touchscreen.

Reasons:

1. If the iPod is released without these features Apple will suffer. The iPod is popular worldwide yet the iPhone is still a US only product, iPod sales will eventually drop if only a minor update is made.

2. The iPod is, even if you want to deny it, Apple's flagship product. It is the key to its recent success and I can't see Apple neglecting it and giving it a vastly inferior feature set to the iPhone. Everyone will know about a new iPod... a new Mac receives alot less press.

3. Safari! An important point, I believe. Apple has just rolled out Safari for Windows. It is trying to spread its usage what better way to do that than supply wi-fi equipped iPods with Safari. Safari usage would leap.

4. Finally Mac OS X. A iPod equipped with Mac OS x will be a great way to introduce people to the operating system and would increase the halo effect beyond that the current iPod has.
 
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