i rest my case, and hope you aren't too disappointed come Sept. 5th...
Oh, I won't. I already know what I'm getting. Hope things pan out for you, though.
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The Beat Goes On: Nano, Touch, Beatles, Wireless?
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Oh, I won't. I already know what I'm getting. Hope things pan out for you, though.
I doubt the event will be anything spectacular, no Beatles, there might be new iPods but don't hold your breath for the cool and fancy features.
i was tring to post an image. I guess I am tech challenged.
Thank you...Coloured downloads anyone? I LOVE coloured vinyl!!!
Might be new iPod?? Hahaha are you kidding me or what. There WILL be new iPod, how else do you expect the empty stock of iPods in stores world wide.
The new iPods will be more then cool. Apple had a Mac this month and last month they unleashed the iPhone- This month is all about iPods and a big event like this and huge drainage indicated that this will be the biggest iPod event we've ever seen.
A new rumor-
It's just a rumor, but something else to add to the fire-
http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/14737/
It's just a rumor, but something else to add to the fire-
http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/14737/
When the spinning stops -- that'll be the time to worry, not before. Until then, the Beatles are alive and well and the beat goes on, the beat goes on.
This a a great quote and it had to be from Lennon.
He has managed to talk about the very beginning of the band and how they selected a name as the band's last statment. He has put in a repeating phrase and used the word "spinning" which might mean records on a turn table or, I think the endless cycle of new bands forming and and old ones dissolving. When THAT stops it's time to worry.
Much of what Lennon wrote had at least three interpretations. He was a big fan of Lewis Carroll who was of course a master of this.
This a a great quote and it had to be from Lennon.
He has managed to talk about the very beginning of the band and how they selected a name as the band's last statment. He has put in a repeating phrase and used the word "spinning" which might mean records on a turn table or, I think the endless cycle of new bands forming and and old ones dissolving. When THAT stops it's time to worry.
Much of what Lennon wrote had at least three interpretations. He was a big fan of Lewis Carroll who was of course a master of this.
To all of you who are doubtful about the new iPod being anything more than a Music/Photo/Movie player, here's what I have to say:
What do you envision this device looking like? It'll have the Mac OS X interface like the iPhone, so what do you think will be the replacements for all the App buttons that according to you guys aren't gonna exist on it?
Do you think that the interface will be like the iPhone, except at the bottom of the screen, they'll be a single button "iPod" and at the main screen, they'll be three buttons "Music", "Photos", and "Movies"?
Here are two things that I know:
1. The iPod WILL be Mac OS X based, and...
2. There is no way in hell that Apple will have such a stripped down device like that, after releasing the iPhone.
The iPhone has like, 10 Apps on the main screen. So will the new iPod. What they are, and what they'll do, is up to Apple. I'm just saying, prepare to be pleasantly surprised.
What do you envision this device looking like? It'll have the Mac OS X interface like the iPhone, so what do you think will be the replacements for all the App buttons that according to you guys aren't gonna exist on it?
Do you think that the interface will be like the iPhone, except at the bottom of the screen, they'll be a single button "iPod" and at the main screen, they'll be three buttons "Music", "Photos", and "Movies"?
Here are two things that I know:
1. The iPod WILL be Mac OS X based, and...
2. There is no way in hell that Apple will have such a stripped down device like that, after releasing the iPhone.
The iPhone has like, 10 Apps on the main screen. So will the new iPod. What they are, and what they'll do, is up to Apple. I'm just saying, prepare to be pleasantly surprised.
So i continue to load MY CDs into my mac (backup hard drive). I have close to 115GB of music loaded at this point, with much more to add. Can I please have an iPod that will hold ALL of my music? Thank you.
I don't want ten apps on an iPod. I just want to play music!
I don't want ten apps on an iPod. I just want to play music!
My guess is there will be games, settings, iTunes store + Extra(notes, calendar, clock, calculator )
Maybe they'll move away from all things 'i' and move back to 'power'?
In this case the new one will be called PowerPod or PowerPod Peta.
Who knows?
Steve Jobs, of course!
In this case the new one will be called PowerPod or PowerPod Peta.
Who knows?
Steve Jobs, of course!
Okay, I'm starting to believe the wireless touch iPod with the iPhone style OS idea 
I think it'd certainly be at a much higher price point. Like with the "free/cheap phone with contract" deals we get here, the $499 for the iPhone is just the tip of the iceberg. The total cost of the 4GB iPhone with the minimum contract is just under $2000? Obviously AT&T would take their fair share of the contract cost, let's say half of it at $700. That'd put the potential unlocked/sim-free cost of the iPhone at around $1300.
I therefore think an iPod with all the same features minus the phone functionality plus a bigger HDD would be the same kind of cost, unless it was very cut-down in comparison.
You don't often get as many extra features as I'm starting to expect from this new iPod, for the same amount of money.
As for the shuffle getting cheaper, to be honest I doubt that too unless the whole range got cheaper - upgraded sure, but not cheaper. They're always priced in such a way that you think "well for that price plus a little bit I could get a Nano" and then "well for that price plus a little bit I could get an iPod" etc.
I think it'd certainly be at a much higher price point. Like with the "free/cheap phone with contract" deals we get here, the $499 for the iPhone is just the tip of the iceberg. The total cost of the 4GB iPhone with the minimum contract is just under $2000? Obviously AT&T would take their fair share of the contract cost, let's say half of it at $700. That'd put the potential unlocked/sim-free cost of the iPhone at around $1300.
I therefore think an iPod with all the same features minus the phone functionality plus a bigger HDD would be the same kind of cost, unless it was very cut-down in comparison.
You don't often get as many extra features as I'm starting to expect from this new iPod, for the same amount of money.
As for the shuffle getting cheaper, to be honest I doubt that too unless the whole range got cheaper - upgraded sure, but not cheaper. They're always priced in such a way that you think "well for that price plus a little bit I could get a Nano" and then "well for that price plus a little bit I could get an iPod" etc.
Obviously...
WiFi on the new top of the line iPod will do NOTHING to hurt the iPhone. How will anything change?? If you want a phone and you are an apple fan you will obviously want the iPhone as your first choice if it is at all feasable...right?
Even if there is WiFi on the new iPod you still won't be making calls from it... I am certain there will be no microphone as usual... So VOIP can't happen.
So what would the cellphone company have to worry about? I guess the big thing is people using instant messaging programs instead of txt messages and not using the bundled web browsing services...BUT if you have an iPhone you pay for these whether you use them or not...
Apple wants the iPhone to be huge but the market for the iPhone is only a fraction of the size of the Digital Media Player market (which they are currently losing a SLIGHT, SLIGHT amount of ground in). Apple needs to come strong with their signature/flagship product. Now is not the time to hold back features. I believe Steve said it before, "Once a feature is introduced it is hard to take it away." The iPhone is kind of a "proof of concept" device...the public will accept nothing less from the top end iPod.
SO,
WORST CASE SCENARIO: no WiFi OR WiFi with crippled functionality (as discussed to death on this board...), full screen (no brainer) but no multi touch, redesign (which is a good thing -- would like something reminiscent of the new iMac I just got --ALSO don't forget the whole "green" kick they seem to be on), OSX based (Coverflow, etc.).
BEST CASE SCENARIO: WiFi, Safari, Mail, built in 2 MP cam (sure!), huge HD capacity (120 GB +), aluminum and glass as above, obviously OSX, full screen/ MULTI TOUCH, remote capabilities, ability to edit calendars and contacts.
I am braced for disappointment but regardless of that I NEED a new iPod so I'll buy whatever they throw at me (unless it's just the same design with a bigger HD -- I guess THAT would be worst case scenario...). Making due with a second gen. shuffle right now (sold off the free nano and my old first gen nano PLUS old 20 GB fourth gen. iPod is on the fritz).
Basically I want this new iPod to be MY ultraportable. I've got a new desktop and really all I need is a device that will let me take my media with me and let me stay in touch with the world via the web (don't wanna have to drag the old PB 12" around...
Sorry for the length...
WiFi on the new top of the line iPod will do NOTHING to hurt the iPhone. How will anything change?? If you want a phone and you are an apple fan you will obviously want the iPhone as your first choice if it is at all feasable...right?
Even if there is WiFi on the new iPod you still won't be making calls from it... I am certain there will be no microphone as usual... So VOIP can't happen.
So what would the cellphone company have to worry about? I guess the big thing is people using instant messaging programs instead of txt messages and not using the bundled web browsing services...BUT if you have an iPhone you pay for these whether you use them or not...
Apple wants the iPhone to be huge but the market for the iPhone is only a fraction of the size of the Digital Media Player market (which they are currently losing a SLIGHT, SLIGHT amount of ground in). Apple needs to come strong with their signature/flagship product. Now is not the time to hold back features. I believe Steve said it before, "Once a feature is introduced it is hard to take it away." The iPhone is kind of a "proof of concept" device...the public will accept nothing less from the top end iPod.
SO,
WORST CASE SCENARIO: no WiFi OR WiFi with crippled functionality (as discussed to death on this board...), full screen (no brainer) but no multi touch, redesign (which is a good thing -- would like something reminiscent of the new iMac I just got --ALSO don't forget the whole "green" kick they seem to be on), OSX based (Coverflow, etc.).
BEST CASE SCENARIO: WiFi, Safari, Mail, built in 2 MP cam (sure!), huge HD capacity (120 GB +), aluminum and glass as above, obviously OSX, full screen/ MULTI TOUCH, remote capabilities, ability to edit calendars and contacts.
I am braced for disappointment but regardless of that I NEED a new iPod so I'll buy whatever they throw at me (unless it's just the same design with a bigger HD -- I guess THAT would be worst case scenario...). Making due with a second gen. shuffle right now (sold off the free nano and my old first gen nano PLUS old 20 GB fourth gen. iPod is on the fritz).
Basically I want this new iPod to be MY ultraportable. I've got a new desktop and really all I need is a device that will let me take my media with me and let me stay in touch with the world via the web (don't wanna have to drag the old PB 12" around...
Sorry for the length...
id just like to add that if the ipod looks like this (a lil mock up i threw together), it will be awesome...
but i still rate the probability of that as low. Maybe the sources are speaking of something different whether it be an iphone 2 or a new colour casing to the iphone, or maybe just a cut down iphone. i just dont see the reason why apple would want the ipod and iphone to have similar form factor, they surely want to keep the products separate?
but i still rate the probability of that as low. Maybe the sources are speaking of something different whether it be an iphone 2 or a new colour casing to the iphone, or maybe just a cut down iphone. i just dont see the reason why apple would want the ipod and iphone to have similar form factor, they surely want to keep the products separate?
Wi-Fi With Safari Would Create Huge Demand
If that includes the ability to run Safari in there, it will be a killer application Apple will have a hard time keeping up with demand for months beyond Christmas.
Apple doesn't get half of AT&T's fees, they get $3 for existing customers and I think $10 for new customers (still a lot, especially for the new customers!)
Yes, an iPod with wifi and all the associated apps won't be cheap. I think the rumored new flash-based stumpier iPod will occupy the $249 to $399 price points, and that a wifi iPod Touch would have to start at no less than $399. Either that or have 1 iPod Touch with no wifi but cheaper.
I have no idea about the Shuffle. They could add a small screen, thus justify a bump in capacity, and keep the existing price point. Without a screen, I don't think there's any point to adding more memory which would make it a dead-end product. It still is worthwile to rev though, due to its super-small size, easy tactile controls, and built in clip.
Yeah, I think the mobile Safari is just that good. So whether it comes now or say in a year, it's coming. It absolutely blows all other mobile browsers out of the water.
But in a year, other companies might have made up some ground. So there's also reason to put it in the iPod now while it's still hot. Just depends on pricing.
Yes, an iPod with wifi and all the associated apps won't be cheap. I think the rumored new flash-based stumpier iPod will occupy the $249 to $399 price points, and that a wifi iPod Touch would have to start at no less than $399. Either that or have 1 iPod Touch with no wifi but cheaper.
I have no idea about the Shuffle. They could add a small screen, thus justify a bump in capacity, and keep the existing price point. Without a screen, I don't think there's any point to adding more memory which would make it a dead-end product. It still is worthwile to rev though, due to its super-small size, easy tactile controls, and built in clip.
Okay, I'm starting to believe the wireless touch iPod with the iPhone style OS idea
I think it'd certainly be at a much higher price point. Like with the "free/cheap phone with contract" deals we get here, the $499 for the iPhone is just the tip of the iceberg. The total cost of the 4GB iPhone with the minimum contract is just under $2000? Obviously AT&T would take their fair share of the contract cost, let's say half of it at $700. That'd put the potential unlocked/sim-free cost of the iPhone at around $1300.
I therefore think an iPod with all the same features minus the phone functionality plus a bigger HDD would be the same kind of cost, unless it was very cut-down in comparison.
You don't often get as many extra features as I'm starting to expect from this new iPod, for the same amount of money.
As for the shuffle getting cheaper, to be honest I doubt that too unless the whole range got cheaper - upgraded sure, but not cheaper. They're always priced in such a way that you think "well for that price plus a little bit I could get a Nano" and then "well for that price plus a little bit I could get an iPod" etc.
Yeah, I think the mobile Safari is just that good. So whether it comes now or say in a year, it's coming. It absolutely blows all other mobile browsers out of the water.
But in a year, other companies might have made up some ground. So there's also reason to put it in the iPod now while it's still hot. Just depends on pricing.
I expect we'll see a "Home" button on the bottom, ala the iPhone.
Not sure they will have ten buttons, but I could see six:
- Music
- Photos
- Movies
- iTunes Store
- Settings
- (either)Camera or Safari
Is that per month? Out of interest, where did you get the info? (I don't have a source obviousl, it was just a theory, but your statement seems a bit more factual)
I didn't see the existing customers bit on the store, admittedly... that puts the contract price down to a much more reasonable $480.
In that case yes, seeing as storage is probably cheaper than phone technology, $499 seems like a more likely price.
Once the obligatory "ripoff Britain" adjustments are added to the GBP cost, I guess that's somewhere around £400. I would expect to pay £200-300 for a decent PDA running that s**ty Windows Mobile, so £400 for an Apple PDA with built-in iPod actually sounds like a sweet deal! Even if it doesn't officially support 3rd party addons.
I will try to find the link, but I read it recently. I honestly don't know if it is true (should've mentioned that), but I think it is probably reasonable. Wireless carriers don't have that much margin that they can give up 50% of a customer's monthly service fee.
EDIT- Here is 1 source that lists similar numbers (estimate by Gene Munster):
http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=5703
EDIT- Here is 1 source that lists similar numbers (estimate by Gene Munster):
http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=5703
Until you have posted pictures none of us believe you. People talk about of their asses the whole time so we wanna see proof. Sorry for the hard attitude mate but that's the way things work now days.
Thanks for that. It does seem feasible/believable. Of course they do want to sell contracts rather than sim-free models so that the relationship between Apple and AT&T remains healthy, which I suppose is why they just don't offer sim-free models at all (otherwise they'd have to charge a hefty sum to compensate, and then it'd be more difficult to have a reasonably priced iPod with similar functionality).
If the above post about it not having Wifi is true though, then it's a whole different ball game. A PDA without Wifi does not a PDA make, not in this day and age. It'd just be the same old iPod with a nicer interface and maybe a few extra features like calculator etc. Though this would allow the same sort of price that it is now, as well as room for a possible iPocket or whatever they decide to call a PDA further down the line.
What I hope for:
1. More iTunes+ Content. A lot more. I'd love to upgrade my library.
2. Higher quality videos. Free upgrades on existing videos.
3. New full screen video ipod with 160 gig drive and 15 hours battery life
4. HBO, HBO, HBO
And of course, the typical unforeseen Apple magic.
1. More iTunes+ Content. A lot more. I'd love to upgrade my library.
2. Higher quality videos. Free upgrades on existing videos.
3. New full screen video ipod with 160 gig drive and 15 hours battery life
4. HBO, HBO, HBO
And of course, the typical unforeseen Apple magic.
YEAH, OWEN WILSON GOT HIS ON SUNDAY AND LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM. THEY MADE IT LOOK LIKE A SUICIDE ATTEMPT.
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